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Nick

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #176
Grendel said:
“wasps were obviously involved so I wasn’t happy”
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Maybe Overson is seeing a conspiracy too?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #177
Right that’s enough playing with you lot for now.

@Nick let me know if you ever feel like answering any of the questions posed to you rather than throwing insults and totally not conspiracy theories around. We might even have a debate!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #178
Nick said:
Maybe Overson is seeing a conspiracy too?
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He has a tinfoil hat on
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #179
shmmeee said:
Right that’s enough playing with you lot for now.

@Nick let me know if you ever feel like answering any of the questions posed to you rather than throwing insults and totally not conspiracy theories around. We might even have a debate!
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They aren't conspiracy theories if they have actually happened.

It isn't playing with anybody, it's making yourself look silly.

What insults have I thrown?

You are strange. (act the victim about that and claim insult if you want).
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #180
Nick said:
He says he left the consortium because Wasps were involved and he wasn't happy about it. A little bit more than "talks about somewhere to play".

As per usual though, you play it down because you are denying something that has happened by using some other made up scenario.
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Im not playing it down, I’m saying he doesn’t say much, because he doesn’t. You’re playing it up because it suits your theories.

Can you answer the question to Nick? Why won’t Sisu call Wasps bluff if the complaint can’t be stopped?

Grendel? Anyone?

Just keep insulting everyone who asks a question, totally the sign of a solid argument.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #181
Nick said:
They aren't conspiracy theories if they have actually happened.

It isn't playing with anybody, it's making yourself look silly.

What insults have I thrown?

You are strange. (act the victim about that and claim insult if you want).
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Why can’t you answer a question Nick? Responded to every single sentence I’ve written apart from the question. Why is that?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #182
shmmeee said:
Why can’t you answer a question Nick? Responded to every single sentence I’ve written apart from the question. Why is that?
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I did respond to it? I asked how do they ask for it to be forgotten then?

Weird how it seems to be people talking to Wasps who are coming out with that line knowing that it won't get things dropped.

How come you can't answer the points about Wasps being involved in the takeover consortium or the Haskell stuff?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #183
shmmeee said:
Im not playing it down, I’m saying he doesn’t say much, because he doesn’t. You’re playing it up because it suits your theories.

Can you answer the question to Nick? Why won’t Sisu call Wasps bluff if the complaint can’t be stopped?

Grendel? Anyone?

Just keep insulting everyone who asks a question, totally the sign of a solid argument.
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Where have you been insulted by me?

He says wasps were involved in the consortium...

It's the same as when you tried to say the council didn't try it on about the butts.

They aren't theories, they are facts. You are the only one coming up with theories in this thread.

I said to you, what is the process on "asking for it to be forgotten"? It isn't a thing, it's just a line that the Trust and Linnell wanted to spin to distract from the indemnity.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #184
Nick said:
I did respond to it? I asked how do they ask for it to be forgotten then?

Weird how it seems to be people talking to Wasps who are coming out with that line knowing that it won't get things dropped.

How come you can't answer the points about Wasps being involved in the takeover consortium or the Haskell stuff?
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Write a letter? Phone call? Email? We are in the communication age mate.

And I answered you. I think it’s sensible for any owner to build good relationships with the only stadium owner in town. I think it’s rather Fucking stupid to destroy the relationship with your sole supplier before sourcing alternatives. That’s been my issue with Sisu all along, tactically they’re a mess.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #185
Nick said:
Where have you been insulted by me?

He says wasps were involved in the consortium...

It's the same as when you tried to say the council didn't try it on about the butts.

They aren't theories, they are facts. You are the only one coming up with theories in this thread.

I said to you, what is the process on "asking for it to be forgotten"? It isn't a thing, it's just a line that the Trust and Linnell wanted to spin to distract from the indemnity.
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The council didn’t try it on. An internal email was sent and nothing came of it. You’ve tied all these half facts and vague sentences together with red string to fit your initial theory.

And implying I know more than I say is calling me duplicitous which is an insult.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #186
shmmeee said:
Write a letter? Phone call? Email? We are in the communication age mate.

And I answered you. I think it’s sensible for any owner to build good relationships with the only stadium owner in town. I think it’s rather Fucking stupid to destroy the relationship with your sole supplier before sourcing alternatives. That’s been my issue with Sisu all along, tactically they’re a mess.
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So a random email to a mailbox? What would that do, exactly?

Again, I am sure Overson would have understood if it was just "building a good relationship" wouldn't he?

So you have the person who received the bid and a person who was involved with the bid saying Wasps were involved but it's just a conspiracy. The same as it was about Haskell and what went on then?

Please do point about where I have insulted you?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #187
shmmeee said:
The council didn’t try it on. An internal email was sent and nothing came of it. You’ve tied all these half facts and vague sentences together with red string to fit your initial theory
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An email from the council to Cov Rugby isn't internal, is it? Of course they were trying it on, they have even admitted to it.

You seem to have a one sided memory that misses out certain facts. It's ironic you mention half facts are you are slowly becoming the king of them with everything you don't seem have any idea about.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #188
Nick said:
So a random email to a mailbox? What would that do, exactly?

Again, I am sure Overson would have understood if it was just "building a good relationship" wouldn't he?

So you have the person who received the bid and a person who was involved with the bid saying Wasps were involved but it's just a conspiracy. The same as it was about Haskell and what went on then?

Please do point about where I have insulted you?
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Involved is a very vague word mate. We don’t know what it means. Everyone is assuming it means whatever suits their theory.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #189
shmmeee said:
Involved is a very vague word mate. We don’t know what it means. Everyone is assuming it means whatever suits their theory.
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Involved enough for the person receiving the bid to know they are part of it.
Involved enough for somebody involved with making the bid to be unhappy and leave the consortium.

It's not really "just being friendly with potential landlords", is it?

Why do you persist at scraping the barrel?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #190
shmmeee said:
Im not playing it down, I’m saying he doesn’t say much, because he doesn’t. You’re playing it up because it suits your theories.

Can you answer the question to Nick? Why won’t Sisu call Wasps bluff if the complaint can’t be stopped?

Grendel? Anyone?

Just keep insulting everyone who asks a question, totally the sign of a solid argument.
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I know Taylor Swift won't go out with me, but apparently I should ask her anyway. Put the ball back in her court.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #191
Nick said:
An email from the council to Cov Rugby isn't internal, is it? Of course they were trying it on, they have even admitted to it.

You seem to have a one sided memory that misses out certain facts. It's ironic you mention half facts are you are slowly becoming the king of them with everything you don't seem have any idea about.
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More insults.

I thought it was internal, it was during negotiations. It still didn’t go anywhere. It’s not an actual action is it? It’s a thought that didn’t go anywhere. And it’s your best evidence for your theories.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #192
MusicDating said:
I know Taylor Swift won't go out with me, but apparently I should ask her anyway. Put the ball back in her court.
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Solid analogy. Cos Taylor Swift is specifically asking you to ask her in order to get something you want that she has right?

Nope my mistake it’s a fucking terrible analogy.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #193
shmmeee said:
More insults.

I thought it was internal, it was during negotiations. It still didn’t go anywhere. It’s not an actual action is it? It’s a thought that didn’t go anywhere. And it’s your best evidence for your theories.
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Where is the insult?

Strange, you seem to not know something again.

It was an action in response to a Cov Rugby business proposal.

You are the one that seemingly has theories about things that have already happened, you have some strange distorted memory where certain things are wrong or blocked out. (You can pretend that's an insult as well if you want)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #194
shmmeee said:
Solid analogy. Cos Taylor Swift is specifically asking you to ask her in order to get something you want that she has right?

Nope my mistake it’s a fucking terrible analogy.
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So Wasps are asking SISU to publicly ask for an investigation into CCC to be forgotten even though they know it can't be? The logic of that is....?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #195
Nick said:
Involved enough for the person receiving the bid to know they are part of it.
Involved enough for somebody involved with making the bid to be unhappy and leave the consortium.

It's not really "just being friendly with potential landlords", is it?

Why do you persist at scraping the barrel?
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Im not the one putting my entire argument on a very vague word. That scraping sound you hear is coming from you. All this shit you’ve brought up old take overs and god knows what else to avoid facing the fact that our owners are intentionally harming the club short term for a gamble on the long term. That’s literally all I said to trigger you lot and now you’re just desperate to find some minor detail to cling to to avoid that fact.

Which nicely proves my first post correct.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #196
Nick said:
Where is the insult?

Strange, you seem to not know something again.

It was an action in response to a Cov Rugby business proposal.

You are the one that seemingly has theories about things that have already happened, you have some strange distorted memory where certain things are wrong or blocked out. (You can pretend that's an insult as well if you want)
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You think this is a compliment?

“You seem to have a one sided memory that misses out certain facts. It's ironic you mention half facts are you are slowly becoming the king of them with everything you don't seem have any idea about”
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #197
shmmeee said:
You think this is a compliment?

“You seem to have a one sided memory that misses out certain facts. It's ironic you mention half facts are you are slowly becoming the king of them with everything you don't seem have any idea about”
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Are you really getting that desperate you act a victim and try to claim that's an insult?

After all, it's fact that you seem to not know about particular things. How convenient.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #198
shmmeee said:
Im not playing it down, I’m saying he doesn’t say much, because he doesn’t. You’re playing it up because it suits your theories.

Can you answer the question to Nick? Why won’t Sisu call Wasps bluff if the complaint can’t be stopped?

Grendel? Anyone?

Just keep insulting everyone who asks a question, totally the sign of a solid argument.
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I know this one. It’s because it’s not the only sticking point
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #199
Anyway this is dull. Same people posting the same arguments. In summary: we should focus on the indemnity, my guess is that that won’t be the end of it though. Sorry that triggers you guys so much.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #200
Sky Blue Pete said:
I know this one. It’s because it’s not the only sticking point
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go on...
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #201
Sky Blue Pete said:
I know this one. It’s because it’s not the only sticking point
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What are the other sticking points?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #202
Nick said:
Are you really getting that desperate you act a victim and try to claim that's an insult?

After all, it's fact that you seem to not know about particular things. How convenient.
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What does that mean? “Convenient” go on. What are you implying? It’s obviously that im dishonest and yes I’m insulted by that.

Grow up and debate the ideas you fucking child (that’s also an insult and here endeth the lesson)
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #203
shmmeee said:
Anyway this is dull. Same people posting the same arguments. In summary: we should focus on the indemnity, my guess is that that won’t be the end of it though. Sorry that triggers you guys so much.
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Yep, get the indemnity sacked off and see the situation then.

That's why when Pete put together that statement he was also saying that SISU should not carry out any other legals so it isn't just Wasps.

You did agree with that statement didnt you?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #204
shmmeee said:
What does that mean? “Convenient” go on. What are you implying? It’s obviously that im dishonest and yes I’m insulted by that.

Grow up and debate the ideas you fucking child (that’s also an insult and here endeth the lesson)
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It means that you strangely come up with theories about things that have already happened and then say you don't know about them. If you don't know about things happening, how are you going on about conspiracies so much if you seem to only know half a story?

It is convenient because of your seemingly distorted book of events.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #205
shmmeee said:
Anyway this is dull. Same people posting the same arguments. In summary: we should focus on the indemnity, my guess is that that won’t be the end of it though. Sorry that triggers you guys so much.
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That's what I said, don't know how my own admission, that I've been consistent upon for ages has triggered me but hey ho.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #206
Liquid Gold said:
That's what I said, don't know how my own admission, that I've been consistent upon for ages has triggered me but hey ho.
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Careful with your insults.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #207
shmmeee said:
Why can’t you answer a question Nick? Responded to every single sentence I’ve written apart from the question. Why is that?
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Nick said:
Yep, get the indemnity sacked off and see the situation then.

That's why when Pete put together that statement he was also saying that SISU should not carry out any other legals so it isn't just Wasps.

You did agree with that statement didnt you?
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Nick said:
What are the other sticking points?
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I don’t know but that’s the answer isn’t it. If the indemnity is the sticking point why haven’t ccfc asked for it to be removed? Because it’s not the only issue. Is that not ochums razor. What we don’t know is why wasps continued to talk when they knew about the complaint?
Again assuming they did. Seems incredulous they didn’t. So it wasn’t an issue for a couple of months to wasps that a complaint had been made and then did it suddenly become an issue or was it part of the conversations? I think the latter cause it makes sense not cause I’m in the know. So ergo there are still discussions to be had about playing at the Ricoh. So why did they stop at that point?
We don’t know. Sisu put out their statement and wasps have said nothing to discredit it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #208
Liquid Gold said:
That's what I said, don't know how my own admission, that I've been consistent upon for ages has triggered me but hey ho.
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If you took that to mean you that’s on you. That’s literally all I posted to start this shit storm off so it’s almost like the argument doesn’t matter just who it comes from
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #209
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t know but that’s the answer isn’t it. If the indemnity is the sticking point why haven’t ccfc asked for it to be removed? Because it’s not the only issue. Is that not ochums razor. What we don’t know is why wasps continued to talk when they knew smoky the complaint?
Again assuming they did. Seems incredulous they didn’t. So it wasn’t an issue for a couple of months to wasps that a complaint had been made and then did it suddenly become an issue or was it part of the conversations? I think the latter cause it makes sense not cause I’m in the know. So ergo there are still discussions to be had about playing at the Ricoh. So why did they stop at that point?
We don’t know. Sisu out there statement and wasps have said nothing.
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So this was said by somebody at the club:

All associated with the club are truly devastated that we are having to play outside of Coventry – no one associated with the club ‘want’ this to happen despite some fans saying and thinking that some associated with the club do ‘want’ it to happen.

However it got to the point in negotiations where the terms presented to SISU that Wasps wanted SISU to sign up to and also sign the football club to sign up to simply was not possible by terms that were being presented.

If fans knew what these terms were they would understand and given the choice fans would not sign their club up these terms either.

While we have to deal with the reality and likelihood that CCFC will play at St Andrews next season it doesn’t have to be that way. We have the option and ability to reverse the deal with Birmingham and to go back to the Ricoh - at any point, any point now or during the season.

To reiterate no party from either Wasps, SISU or CCFC have ended discussions - they are simply stuck on some points they can’t agree on - points which could have future damage to the club and/or employees. SISU rightly so can not sign the club up to these terms.
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Grendel

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  • Feb 14, 2020
  • #210
If it’s the same ridiculous deal they presented to Anderson then I’m sure there are a lot of issues around it

One big issue id guess is the naming rights deal wasps have lined up and it seems can’t be signed unless the club is back so I’d guess the club want it’s share
 
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