Seymour_East
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Agree Big G, I’ve said it 3 seasons now and I don’t care how many goals he’s scored, he is just not very good. Look at their big unit up front tonight, fuck me… go compare
Norwich Player Ratings (8 Viewers)
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junglej13
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Esse seems to burn out very early in a game.
Londonccfcfan
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Its god damn mental system. We have got away with it at Boro too when Conway missed open goal on 80 mins. They shpukd have been 3-2 up. Their heads went down.
Its such a shit formation..the kind you dont see in football.
The first change should have been Saka for BTA - move Esse central, he’s clearly dangerous in central areas as shown by that shot off the post against Leicester. At least give that 10mins.
To then take Haji off was just bizarre, I’m sure Norwich fans were pleased to see it. At that point change the system and go two up front if you’re desperate to get Simms on.
We looked totally innocuous after the final changes apart from when Yang got himself in to a good position and completely shat himself.
To then take Haji off was just bizarre, I’m sure Norwich fans were pleased to see it. At that point change the system and go two up front if you’re desperate to get Simms on.
We looked totally innocuous after the final changes apart from when Yang got himself in to a good position and completely shat himself.
Cally Fedora
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There just is no comparison between Wright and Simms. Wright is at a different level. Simms gets huge ratings when he musters a challenge or two on a centre half
eastwoodsdustman
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Rushworth 7
Mve7
Thomas 4
Kitching 4
JDS 6
Grimes 5
Torp 6
Esse 6 includes extra point for the goal. He has worse positional sense than jim o’brien had.
Wright 6
EMC 4
BTA 5
subs
Tats 7
Simms 5
Eccles 7
Yang 5
Mve7
Thomas 4
Kitching 4
JDS 6
Grimes 5
Torp 6
Esse 6 includes extra point for the goal. He has worse positional sense than jim o’brien had.
Wright 6
EMC 4
BTA 5
subs
Tats 7
Simms 5
Eccles 7
Yang 5
We were discussing this during the game. He's great going forward, but not sure if he's lacking the match fitness to do the dirty work just yet. I don't know if it was under instruction but did you notice he kept drifting inside a lot? i'll probably get laughed at but i'd like to see him in the 10 and Tats back out wide.
His goal came from being in and around the box, he's also had some brilliant little touches to our strikers in the last couple of games, that have managed to pick the defence apart, also from in and around the box.
long way home
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Not a good performance as a team or as individuals. More questions than answers at the minute and that is not a good place to be when you are being hunted.
FL going fo have to get hold of a few or the players are going to have to have a players meeting because they look like they are playing with fear.
FL going fo have to get hold of a few or the players are going to have to have a players meeting because they look like they are playing with fear.
JoeCCFCPUSB
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Rushworth - 6
MVE - 4
Thomas - 1
Kitching - 2
JDS - 3
Grimes - 2
Torp - 4
Asante - 5
EMC - 4
Esse - 7
Wright- 5
Eccles - 3
Sakamoto - 4
Yang - 4
Eccles - 3
MVE - 4
Thomas - 1
Kitching - 2
JDS - 3
Grimes - 2
Torp - 4
Asante - 5
EMC - 4
Esse - 7
Wright- 5
Eccles - 3
Sakamoto - 4
Yang - 4
Eccles - 3
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Who actually played well?
I do agree MvE had one of his better games for a while. Esse gave it a college try, but for the first 20 minutes I genuinely don't think he touched the ball.
The rest of the defence were shocking. The midfield didn't exist. The forwards were ineffective, which was paramount to this formation, so therefore it didn't work.
The mentality is all wrong from the players at this point. We look weak and second best. Not up for it as much as the opposition, who work harder and want it more. It does my fucking head in as I feel like I'm saying it every week.
I do agree MvE had one of his better games for a while. Esse gave it a college try, but for the first 20 minutes I genuinely don't think he touched the ball.
The rest of the defence were shocking. The midfield didn't exist. The forwards were ineffective, which was paramount to this formation, so therefore it didn't work.
The mentality is all wrong from the players at this point. We look weak and second best. Not up for it as much as the opposition, who work harder and want it more. It does my fucking head in as I feel like I'm saying it every week.
RegiswasGod
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Rushworth 7
Van Ewijk 7
Thomas 5
Kitching 3
DaSilva 4
Grimes 5
Torp 5
Thomas-Asante 3
Esse 5
Wright 5
Mason-Clark 5
Eccles 6
Sakamoto 6
Simms 5
Mini 6
Van Ewijk 7
Thomas 5
Kitching 3
DaSilva 4
Grimes 5
Torp 5
Thomas-Asante 3
Esse 5
Wright 5
Mason-Clark 5
Eccles 6
Sakamoto 6
Simms 5
Mini 6
RegiswasGod
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So.... Eccles 6?
JoeCCFCPUSB
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whoever i missed out give um Eccles 3
hinckley cov
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5s are way to high for Thomas and Kitching
hinckley cov
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100% agree we looked worse when wright went off and Simms come on
hinckley cov
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I know why take him off when he was our only goal threat and going back to the playoffs second leg wright was awful and Frank kept him on all game
Jamieb87ccfc
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We just seem to have lost form and are now stuttering trying to get it back.
Rudoni hasn’t looked the same player since his return from injury and that’s the case for Torp as well and now BTA maybe its fitness but with Rudoni it’s being said he’s carrying another injury.
The concern is Grimes looks like sideways sammy at the moment, think he needs a rest but we have no one to play his role until someone comes in (fingers crossed).
Positionally we are letting the opposition have loads of space and people aren’t being disciplined in their positioning.
Obviously just an opinion but for me it’s what I’m seeing.
Rudoni hasn’t looked the same player since his return from injury and that’s the case for Torp as well and now BTA maybe its fitness but with Rudoni it’s being said he’s carrying another injury.
The concern is Grimes looks like sideways sammy at the moment, think he needs a rest but we have no one to play his role until someone comes in (fingers crossed).
Positionally we are letting the opposition have loads of space and people aren’t being disciplined in their positioning.
Obviously just an opinion but for me it’s what I’m seeing.
skyblue025
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The midfield is where we are going wrong IMO. We are basically playing 4 2 4 with the 10 playing off the 9 and wingers pushed up high.
Leaving 2 in midfield, one as a sitter and 1 as a box to box 8 which sees us over run in the there all the time. Grimes doesn't have an out ball as Torp is 40 yards away up the pitch, the 10 isn't dropping deep to pick up the ball so he's trying to play 40-50 yard balls all game or a pass to Kitchen/Thomas.
Once we lose the ball a quick transition to either of the wingers sees Grimes having to cover the full backs leaving a gaping hole in the centre for opposition runners. Torps recovery pace is the same as an asthmatic sloth, MVE has ran past our winger hoping to get the ball and JDS is stood waiting for the ball by EMC. Neither of our current centre halfs are that good defending and drop clangers regularly.
We either need to play the double pivot and an 8 or a 6 and 2 8's to give Grimes more passing options. It's no use everyone running away from him as soon as he picks up the ball.
Leaving 2 in midfield, one as a sitter and 1 as a box to box 8 which sees us over run in the there all the time. Grimes doesn't have an out ball as Torp is 40 yards away up the pitch, the 10 isn't dropping deep to pick up the ball so he's trying to play 40-50 yard balls all game or a pass to Kitchen/Thomas.
Once we lose the ball a quick transition to either of the wingers sees Grimes having to cover the full backs leaving a gaping hole in the centre for opposition runners. Torps recovery pace is the same as an asthmatic sloth, MVE has ran past our winger hoping to get the ball and JDS is stood waiting for the ball by EMC. Neither of our current centre halfs are that good defending and drop clangers regularly.
We either need to play the double pivot and an 8 or a 6 and 2 8's to give Grimes more passing options. It's no use everyone running away from him as soon as he picks up the ball.
Torquay Sky Blue
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You're about spot on with your analysis. Dasilva and BTA are looking like they were and the CB's look like they did before Grimes.
We need a change in strategy and personnel quickly
clint van damme
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Him changing what's not working away from home will be the catslyst.
SIR ERNIE
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He has to play 2 holding midfielders.
Eccles has to be a fixture there with Grimes starting Saturday.
Otis
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Think that would have worked better last night for sure
I was excited when I saw the team sheet last night, because it was so attacking. Was a bit worried about Torp and Grimes in the middle, but thought that if we were going to attack them and pin them back, it wouldn't matter so much.
For such an attacking line up though, we didn't have a single shot between the 6th minute and the 37th minute when we scored.
stevefloyd
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There was a point last night where Torp was nowhere to be seen when we were under attack Grimes was in the left back position Dasilva was almost centre of the park ambling back (slowly) the next phase was Kitching was almost in centre midfield and Grimes was back in our box in a very very deep sweeper position, the midfield (and Grimes) needs help and I don't think Eccles is the answer (yeah yeah he's one of our own) although he is capable of raising his game at times BUT we are seeking promotion WE NEED STRONGER MORE ATHLECTIC/SKILLFUL players to get across the line...no more fucking about Doug its shit or bust time...if you have ambition do something about it FUCKING PLEASE !!!!
