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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #36
Bruce the Boot said:
Sisu will do as they like anyway , So why fund it ?
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If you don't want to go because SISU are shit owners - fine.

But don't make out it's anything other than that.
 
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Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #37
Deleted member 5849 said:
If you don't want to go because SISU are shit owners - fine.

But don't make out it's anything other than that.
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Fine with the first part , Puzzled by your second comment ?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #38
Bruce the Boot said:
Fine with the first part , Puzzled by your second comment ?
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I thought it was fully explained in my prior post to that one.

NOPM as a campaign to force SISU to leave, in a manner that will provide joy to masses... is flawed.

Not going because we have shit owners / a shit manager / a shit strip / a shit bunch of players / a club cat that scratches you whenever you try to stroke it is fine, it's what happens in everyday life. Something is shit, it attracts less people.

But that ain't a campaign, that just is.
 
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Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #39
Well the masses cant be wrong , more stay away then go .
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #40
Bruce the Boot said:
Well the masses cant be wrong , more stay away then go .
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I didn't say they were necessarily wrong.

I said NOPM as a campaign strategy is flawed, if the aim is to force the owners out by not going.

It appears, as you answer my posts with an unrelated point, that we can agree on that so we can leave it there.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #41
Bruce the Boot said:
Well the masses cant be wrong , more stay away then go .
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If we played man Utd in the cup what crowd would we get? 8,000?
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #42
Totally disagree , NOPM has nt been tried to its full potential , So nobody knows if its flawed or not .
 
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Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #43
Grendel said:
If we played man Utd in the cup what crowd would we get? 8,000?
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There would be more Mancs there probably .
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #44
It's almost like you can't be bothered to answer any of my posts or points. On the one hand you refuse to engage with Grendel who insults, and on the other hand when somebody tries speaking in sentences you resort to soundbytes too.
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #45
I have answered all your points , you choose not to understand or accept a different version .
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #46
Bruce the Boot said:
There would be more Mancs there probably .
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How many CCFC fans would there be? If we made the play off final how many fans would there be?
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #47
Hypothetical question , that would require a hypothetical answer . Blimey you are clutching at straws
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #48
Bruce the Boot said:
I have answered all your points , you choose not to understand or accept a different version .
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You haven't said anything other than unrelated comments, not engaging in the slightest.

Why is that?

Do you *really* think ZERO is attainable as an attendance, realistically?

Do you *really* think that inaction creates action?

Do you *really* think that attention is drawn through apathy?

If so... why, when all past evidence throughout history says otherwise?

If you wanted a news stroy, at least have everyone stand outside the ground, otherwise your non-attendance as a campaign is on weak as piss foundations.
 
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Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #49
Nopm is " a peoples" choice , the same as going is , The fans will never be united , on a "course" of action . Really dont know what your trying to get at ?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #50
Bruce the Boot said:
Nopm is " a peoples" choice , the same as going is , The fans will never be united , on a "course" of action . Really dont know what your trying to get at ?
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You're still refusing to engage.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #51
Bruce the Boot said:
Nopm is " a peoples" choice , the same as going is , The fans will never be united , on a "course" of action . Really dont know what your trying to get at ?
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Halibut always tastes better than cod I reckon.
 

GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #52
Bruce the Boot said:
Totally disagree , NOPM has nt been tried to its full potential , So nobody knows if its flawed or not .
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Totally agree with you Bruce.
NOPM has the potential to starve Sisu of funds ie. hurt them now where they are bothered, galvanise fans in a campaign and attract national publicity which also potentially damages Sisu's future business.
Most who dismiss it dont really argue the point, largely because they dont really want to campaign against Sisu -- like Grendull.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #53
Or to put another way, not going when we signed King wasn't going to make us unsign King, but it didn't stop anybody's right not to go.

It is what it is.
 

Nick

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #54
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Totally agree with you Bruce.
NOPM has the potential to starve Sisu of funds ie. hurt them now where they are bothered, galvanise fans in a campaign and attract national publicity which also potentially damages Sisu's future business.
Most who dismiss it dont really argue the point, largely because they dont really want to campaign against Sisu -- like Grendull.
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Ironic you are agreeing with Bruce and saying the others don't argue their point. Lots of long thread in detail about it
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #55
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Totally agree with you Bruce.
NOPM has the potential to starve Sisu of funds ie. hurt them now where they are bothered, galvanise fans in a campaign and attract national publicity which also potentially damages Sisu's future business.
Most who dismiss it dont really argue the point, largely because they dont really want to campaign against Sisu -- like Grendull.
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Action will gather more publicity than inaction. Come up with something that shows people care and no, that doesn't have to even involve going into the ground if you don't want to, come up with something plenty of people can turn up to and rally behind if you want to campaign.

But NOPM to force regime change is flawed, and dangerous.

Not going because we have shit owners - fine. Why not?
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #56
Deleted member 5849 said:
You're still refusing to engage.
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i think your trying tobe clever , But it obviously is nt working .
 

Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #57
Nick said:
Ironic you are agreeing with Bruce and saying the others don't argue their point. Lots of long thread in detail about it
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And ironic that you have DIS.... something that 2 people agree on but differs to your own view
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #58
Bruce the Boot said:
i think your trying tobe clever , But it obviously is nt working .
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I don't have to try to be clever...
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #59
You're well within your right to believe whatever you want and do with your money as you please.

Definitely invalidates any concerns you have about the performances of the first team and our signings though
 
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Bruce the Boot

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #60
Liquid Gold said:
You're well within your right to believe whatever you want and do with your money as you please.

Definitely invalidates any concerns you have about the performances of the first team and our signings though
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Thats Why I never comment
 
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Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #61
Their are merits in NOPM if Sisu's end game is that of squeezing the club to death and then liquidation, it would speed up the process by forcing the owners to support the club financially. The problem is no one knows the end game. It also makes Grendels point of how many would be their irrelevant, if their was no money coming in from fans their would be no product on the pitch that fans would want to watch in the current self funding model.
 

ceetee

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #62
If SISU's end game is squeezing the club to death why would they support the club financially?
It just delays what you claim they want to achieve
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #63
Just got off a plane from Spain to hear all this latest good news.
Not been to the City this season at all, haven't spent a single penny thus far. I think this cements it for me now too :
I hate the twats who have trashed it all, they haven't really invested in another squad again, we got lucky with a few hot loans last term, we haven't done that this one, the club is disintegrating, the manager looks battered and bewildered by it all and now resembles all his predecessors, they ramped my favourite ticket area in block 37 up from £18 to £24 without any justification, hardly anyone I know goes now anyway, there are better things to do than keep this club on life support which only favours SISU. If the poisonous bastards fuck off then I may return but I hope they make it quick or I will have moved on altogether.
I've given them 40 years solid support, 30 games a season for at least 25 of those too but it doesn't feel like our club anymore anyway, fair play to those who persevere but I think you are flogging a dead horse and the hedge fund are taking the piss out of your loyalty. Shame, I've met some great people following City.
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #64
Don't think NOPM would work, to be honest. They are a big hedge fund, they probably don't want to take a hit, but they'll be able to absorb it.
 

blueflint

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #65
if 100% for next three home games nopm would bring the club to its knees then and only then would we start to get answers from sisu
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #66
Grendel said:
How many CCFC fans would there be? If we made the play off final how many fans would there be?
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Is all you come on for is to have a go at our fan base? Seriously. What are you for?
 

albatross

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #67
Is there scope for an all in / all out protest?

Choose two games, One we try to get every CCFC fan to attend the other we get every CCFC fan to boycott.

That will demonstrate our strength of feeling regarding the current situation, it will also show any potential owners what the fan base could be.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #68
albatross said:
Is there scope for an all in / all out protest?

Choose two games, One we try to get every CCFC fan to attend the other we get every CCFC fan to boycott.

That will demonstrate our strength of feeling regarding the current situation, it will also show any potential owners what the fan base could be.
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been mentioned before. I think it's a good idea, show sisu or any potential owners what they could have if the club was well run and had some direction and then a boycott to show sisu we've had enough.
Trouble is a lot of people won't agree with the full house idea, (wich is fair enough), so it will be difficult to achieve.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #69
clint van damme said:
been mentioned before. I think it's a good idea, show sisu or any potential owners what they could have if the club was well run and had some direction and then a boycott to show sisu we've had enough.
Trouble is a lot of people won't agree with the full house idea, (wich is fair enough), so it will be difficult to achieve.
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Virtually impossible to get 100% of people to agree to anything.

A lot easier to mask that if it's something active however. Didn't get 100% of people rocking up to marches while Northampton was going on, but got enough to make an impact....
 

albatross

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  • Sep 23, 2016
  • #70
would not expect to either totally fill or empty the stadium but if we managed a significant differential in attendances that would be news worthy
 
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