So your argument is to never sign anyone because they aren’t guaranteed success?
All I want is some reassurance from your mates at the club that there’s an actual plan to match Joys stated ambition for the club. Because at the moment the plan seems to be find a way for Robins to live forever and keep us midtable on a shoestring.
Joy has no ambition, she doesnt care two jots about the football club.Actually Shmmeee I think that Robin’s current performance is exceeding Joys ambition.
Common sense dictates that it would be One season surviving, next stabilising and then challenging.
If we realistic we could still end up mid table and the stabilising phase has still been achieved.
But it’s the hope that kills you.
We’re not far short of exceeded expectations and finishing in the play off places.
I would also think that the recruitment team has a long term plan with targets and what is the point in bringing in a player just to appease the fans.
Robins and the team have created a real team ethos and they are obviously coached brilliantly.
Too many times we have seen poor recruitment happen, players brought in who added no value, who destabilised and were a waste of money.
Summer is always the best time to recruit and I’m happy to wait to see what calibre of player comes in.
Our performances this year will definitely be more attractive to a better quality player.
We’ve waited long enough to be successful-enjoy it. try and be patient!
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We’ve basically wasted a time when all our stars are aligned. Market is depressed, team on form, fans on a high, and we’ve cut the playing budget. It’s nuts.
great timesIt was not 34 comfortable years though, the number of times we survived ...Just... was incredible but yes we did have or should I say we have a proud 34 year record
great times
not just our finances! i think a few clubs are going to be screwed end of season and all trying to dump deadwood, I think City get their dumping in early to give us a better chance of relaunching for next season. Dont think we will get into play offs this year but would love a good cup run to swell the coffers though.When the accounts covering last season are published in a few weeks time we will all understand why spending has been reined in. We've not sold a player for a significant sum since McCallum too.
A lose and a draw at best.Win next Tuesday and it will all be forgotten - win Saturday and Tuesday and the double is on !
ever the optimist AnnA lose and a draw at best.
What gives you ‘inside’ knowledge? Just a caveat this isn’t at all a sarcastic or loaded ask. Genuinely wondering
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Have previous January buys been game changers? Some would point to Matty James, but I'm not so sure. It's easy to say Gyokeres, but that's based on this season's form. Last season, Biamou kept him out the team on occasion!
David Meyler was a game changer, but not in a good way...
People also need to remember we have increased the contracts on O'hare, Hyam, Godden which will likely of included a wage increase. Its not a case of oh we havent done X, I think we've actually done fine this transfer window as we havent let anyone significant go.
Just to illustrate the nature of football fans a West Ham supporting mate is complaining bitterly that his club haven't bought anyone in
'Ĺack of ambition, incompetence, manager no good etc etc'
Ridiculous bearing on mind where they are in the League and where they were 2 years ago
If they win the next 3 games he'll be lauding the same people he's currently slagging off
Just to illustrate the nature of football fans a West Ham supporting mate is complaining bitterly that his club haven't bought anyone in
'Ĺack of ambition, incompetence manager no good etc etc'
Ridiculous bearing on mind where they are in the League and where they were 2 years ago
If they win the next 3 games he'll be lauding the same people he's currently slagging off
Holy fuck!
I mean, to be fair, there's an element of truth in that. Also with bringing Gyo in in the summer, our wage bill will undoubtedly be higher than last season.
On another note, I assume Walker has a recall clause?
So your argument is to never sign anyone because they aren’t guaranteed success?
All I want is some reassurance from your mates at the club that there’s an actual plan to match Joys stated ambition for the club. Because at the moment the plan seems to be find a way for Robins to live forever and keep us midtable on a shoestring.
No recall on Walker.
Then that is strange. I can live with Gyo, Waghorn and Tavares until Godden is fit but if one of those gets injured, seems strange not to have that option.
You can't recall outside of a transfer window anyway.
I think G seems to have more mates in the club than me. I also think you have the wrong club if you think I have any influence you state
As to your opening statement it is not my assertion but it is from those who say "the club should invest in a new ...whatever". They must be working on the premise that player will provide the missing winning factor. Its all a gamble but I think now is not the time to do it - get game experience this season and reassess in the summer
This is where I am. In an ideal world you'd get players in whenever, but now is nearly always more expensive, and that sets you back medium-long term as you've over-inflated for worth, even if that's been a loan or two.Its all a gamble but I think now is not the time to do it - get game experience this season and reassess in the summer
This is where I am. In an ideal world you'd get players in whenever, but now is nearly always more expensive, and that sets you back medium-long term as you've over-inflated for worth, even if that's been a loan or two.
Realistically, unless we sign up a bunch of superstars, we're not going to make the playoffs, and even those superstars wouldn't guarantee us in them, let alone winning them. Of the players we've lost, I'd say only Walker is a loss, the others are not-yets, never-weres, bad-mistakes so are all limited in their playing, and even financial impact on leaving too - a Blaine Rowe leaving on loan won't provide much spare cash! Also, signing Kane possibly was an extra, not expected at the time, so maybe our money down the sofa was spent earlier than now.
Walker's undoubtedly a loss. My view is he's the best striker at the club, but the manager clearly begs to differ. At the start of the season we were horribly unbalanced with four strikers and no LWBs we owned ourselves, so in effect this transfer window has rebalanced us slightly. Also, it's never an easy sell, but what we're looking at now is strikers / AMs who'd displace Gyokeres / O'Hare, and as arguably two of our more saleable assets, game and evelopment time for them is more important, both in terms of playing and monetary value to the side next season. O'Hare out the team won't suddenly teach him how to finish, after all - maybe some games where he can learn to vary the pace he plays at, and try some subtlety in his game is better than being ousted. Any loanee, after all, won't be coming to sit on the bench.
So we are where we are. Do we need more finance? Yep. I'd still rather we improved the squad and club in the medium-long term however, than the short-term punt. Get the foundations right, and you're more likely to have consistent upswing in results.
And whatever level we're at, we'll end up with players filling in for the occasional game. The many Paul Williams's we ended up with in the top flight is testament to that.All good points except last two games Shipley has played AM because we have no other options.
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