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No accounting for the scabs!! (1 Viewer)

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deanocity3

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #106
here are the palace fans protesting from a few years ago
[video=youtube;fxfoCpffU2g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxfoCpffU2g[/video]
 

Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #107
Coventry City will play in Northampton I do not know any team called Coventry Cobblers, get over it either support the team or do your shopping on Saturday, I have my opinion and you have yours ffs, what is wrong with people on here...if you don't agree then your daft (or much worse)...well let me say this IF we get to the play offs at Wembely I hope you ALL who have slated me and others on here for being honest, stick to your non support and stay away...and that goes for the next year if we make to the Championship, your trying to hurt SISU but your hurting the one thing you profess to love, it does not make sense...your support wont be missed.

italiahorse said:
What a load of bluster.
Easy for me.

Not in Coventry so it's not CCFC.

If your spineless enough to go and support Coventry Cobblers and think its CCFC then that's okay.
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #108
Skybluerevolution (Pt2) said:
Coventry City will play in Northampton I do not know any team called Coventry Cobblers, get over it either support the team or do your shopping on Saturday, I have my opinion and you have yours ffs, what is wrong with people on here...if you don't agree then your daft (or much worse)...well let me say this IF we get to the play offs at Wembely I hope you ALL who have slated me and others on here for being honest, stick to your non support and stay away...and that goes for the next year if we make to the Championship, your trying to hurt SISU but your hurting the one thing you profess to love, it does not make sense...your support wont be missed.
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If City get to Wembley won't that be playing away?:thinking about:

Would think we would all go to Wembley wouldn't we? For the vast majority of stay aways it is Coventry City playing in Northampton that is the issue.
 

italiahorse

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #109
Skybluerevolution (Pt2) said:
Coventry City will play in Northampton I do not know any team called Coventry Cobblers, get over it either support the team or do your shopping on Saturday, I have my opinion and you have yours ffs, what is wrong with people on here...if you don't agree then your daft (or much worse)...well let me say this IF we get to the play offs at Wembely I hope you ALL who have slated me and others on here for being honest, stick to your non support and stay away...and that goes for the next year if we make to the Championship, your trying to hurt SISU but your hurting the one thing you profess to love, it does not make sense...your support wont be missed.
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Not slating you, just giving you my opinion.
Coventry City will not be at Wembley nor will the under suported, under financed Sisu team now known by me as Coventry Cobblers. Good luck for the next 5 years, stick with it and I'm sure with a bit of effort you will get what you deserve,
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #110
Otis said:
If City get to Wembley won't that be playing away?:thinking about:

Would think we would all go to Wembley wouldn't we? For the vast majority of stay aways it is Coventry City playing in Northampton that is the issue.
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Would give cash to the club though, and I thought the point was to deny them money?
 

Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #111
Deleted member 5849 said:
Would give cash to the club though, and I thought the point was to deny them money?
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Bravo...
 

Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #112
Otis said:
If City get to Wembley won't that be playing away?:thinking about:

Would think we would all go to Wembley wouldn't we? For the vast majority of stay aways it is Coventry City playing in Northampton that is the issue.
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I have read many comments saying until SISU go they will not spend one penny more...so if we got there they would have to stick to their promise surely, otherwise missing out on all of this season is for nothing, if at a sniff of a final JPT/Play Offs they crumble...
 

McLovin87

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #113
Skybluerevolution (Pt2) said:
I have read many comments saying until SISU go they will not spend one penny more...so if we got there they would have to stick to their promise surely, otherwise missing out on all of this season is for nothing, if at a sniff of a final JPT/Play Offs they crumble...
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You're right we are all going to crumble at the first sniff of success and you will get the 32,000 going over to Northampton,Oh hold on!:thinking about:
 
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valiant15

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #114
italiahorse said:
Not slating you, just giving you my opinion.
Coventry City will not be at Wembley nor will the under suported, under financed Sisu team now known by me as Coventry Cobblers. Good luck for the next 5 years, stick with it and I'm sure with a bit of effort you will get what you deserve,
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Relegation probably.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #115
Skybluerevolution (Pt2) said:
I have read many comments saying until SISU go they will not spend one penny more...so if we got there they would have to stick to their promise surely, otherwise missing out on all of this season is for nothing, if at a sniff of a final JPT/Play Offs they crumble...
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as hypothetical as saying "where would you play Wayne Rooney" in Pressleys line up ?
 
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valiant15

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #116
Skybluerevolution (Pt2) said:
I have read many comments saying until SISU go they will not spend one penny more...so if we got there they would have to stick to their promise surely, otherwise missing out on all of this season is for nothing, if at a sniff of a final JPT/Play Offs they crumble...
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Fc sisu won't get anywhere near Wembley or the championship you loony.
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #117
I saw this thread earlier today and resisted the urge to immediately respond- perhaps regrettably valour has beaten my traditional discretionary nature.
Perhaps I should rise above, however;

35 years consecutive season ticket support sees me somewhat angered at the thought of being labelled a 'scab' should I choose to make that 36 years, 37, 38 (possibly 39 and 40). Like many, the sky blues chose me, a legacy of late grandfather and late father- genetically connected to this 'sky blue' cross to bear?
Like many I am faced with the head vs heart impossible decision.

> Head- perhaps directs me not to follow CCFC on their journey to the city of cobblers- starving the oppressive ownership of funds is an argument with some credence, equally well founded though is the undoubted terminal nature of such a protest.
>Heart- steers me another route; support the club- irrespective of owners or location- uphold 35 years and more- keep the family legacy alive and maintain it through my son, engender the passion in him for the club I love, my own legacy to him in some respects? Share quality time with him away from invasive TV and pesky gaming distractions.

Should I opt for the latter, does this really warrant the unsavoury label of 'scab' and the risk of the wrath of narrow minded folk ignorant to the right of others to make their own life choices, masking behind jingoistic sabre rattling to aide their "cause". Never will I let such an illiterate thought processes cloud my judgement.


If I choose to go to Northampton with my son I will do so with my head high.
 
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theferret

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #118
This thread is full of contradictions. Those people who claim they want to save the club are also urging people not to attend games at Sixfields? I'm not sure how they reconcile that. So what do they think this is going to achieve? Starving the club of cash will a. make any prospect of even moderate success on the pitch impossiblr and b. make the prospect of SISU liquidating the job lot a good deal more likely.

I will probably abstain from attending games in Northampton, but I do so in the knowledge that my actions could play a part in destorying the club completely. Starve the club of cash and there are no happy endings, and would likely result in the death of CCFC as I see it, but hey perhaps I'm wrong and SISU will swallow their pride and sell the club on the cheap. Does that sound like Seppala to you though?

I will march on Saturday and I urge all parties to see sense, but if we start in Northampton it is not the end. Brighton did not cease to be Brighton because they played in Gillingham for a while. I would very much hope that we could return to the city in the shortest time possible. Perhaps I shouldn't care though and just sign up to the 'liquidate now' school of thinking and wish my club out of existance.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #119
Skybluerevolution (Pt2) said:
I have read many comments saying until SISU go they will not spend one penny more...so if we got there they would have to stick to their promise surely, otherwise missing out on all of this season is for nothing, if at a sniff of a final JPT/Play Offs they crumble...
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So you're mocking people for lacking principles based on an entirely hypothetical scenario of you're own creation in which we "all come flooding back" (to paraphrase Fisher the Fuckwit)? Do the men in white coats just not have your address?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #120
theferret said:
This thread is full of contradictions. Those people who claim they want to save the club are also urging people not to attend games at Sixfields? I'm not sure how they reconcile that. So what do they think this is going to achieve? Starving the club of cash will a. make any prospect of even moderate success on the pitch impossiblr and b. make the prospect of SISU liquidating the job lot a good deal more likely.

I will probably abstain from attending games in Northampton, but I do so in the knowledge that my actions could play a part in destorying the club completely. Starve the club of cash and there are no happy endings, and would likely result in the death of CCFC as I see it, but hey perhaps I'm wrong and SISU will swallow their pride and sell the club on the cheap. Does that sound like Seppala to you though?

I will march on Saturday and I urge all parties to see sense, but if we start in Northampton it is not the end. Brighton did not cease to be Brighton because they played in Gillingham for a while. I would very much hope that we could return to the city in the shortest time possible. Perhaps I shouldn't care though and just sign up to the 'liquidate now' school of thinking and wish my club out of existance.
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The idea is to force SISU out or to the negotiating table based on making their relocation unfeasible. If there is an attendance of under 1,000, is their stay in Northampton feasible? No, it's not.

I can't honestly believe that anyone really needs this spelling out to them!
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #121
Nonleagueherewecome said:
The idea is to force SISU out or to the negotiating table based on making their relocation unfeasible. If there is an attendance of under 1,000, is their stay in Northampton feasible? No, it's not.

I can't honestly believe that anyone really needs this spelling out to them!
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T...H....I....S, or as i'm hoping Fisher starts realising.............S....H....I....T:blue:
 

skybluegnome

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #122
italiahorse said:
Liquidation means they just sell the assets they have for what they are worth. They can,t liquidate whilst in administration as that's why ACL attempted to put them there to prevent it.

I would say that SISU would be pretty selfish to liquidate the club rather than let someone else have a go.

The fact we are even discussing they might means that SISU are a cancer to the club that needs to go.
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ACL's reason for attempting to put the club in administration was so that they could choose their own administrator and then force SISU out...I don't believe it was anything to do with stopping SISU liquidating the club....IMO...
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #123
Nonleagueherewecome said:
The idea is to force SISU out or to the negotiating table based on making their relocation unfeasible. If there is an attendance of under 1,000, is their stay in Northampton feasible? No, it's not.

I can't honestly believe that anyone really needs this spelling out to them!
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How can you force SISU back to the negotiating table if ACL refuse to recognise them as the rightful owners of the football club? Strangely though, many people urge ACL 'stand their ground', which pretty much guarantees that no talks about playing games at the Ricoh can take place. The longer ACL insist that they will only speak to the administrator, the longer this farce continues.

I'd say that the idea that SISU can be forced back to the negotiating table is a little naive. Forcing them out? Possibly yes, but what does 'out' mean? Do they sell, or do they liquidate? I believe that the latter is at least possible, so the 'not one penny more' idea is a massive risk and could bring the whole thing crashing down (for good).

Perhaps I'm wrong. I respect your opinion even if I disagree with it, and your arguments are well thought out and reasoned - but even you must acknowledge that the use of the word 'scab' and the inflamatory language used by some towards those that plan to attend is unhelpful?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #124
theferret said:
How can you force SISU back to the negotiating table if ACL refuse to recognise them as the rightful owners of the football club? Strangely though, many people urge ACL 'stand their ground', which pretty much guarantees that no talks about playing games at the Ricoh can take place. The longer ACL insist that they will only speak to the administrator, the longer this farce continues.

I'd say that the idea that SISU can be forced back to the negotiating table is a little naive. Forcing them out? Possibly yes, but what does 'out' mean? Do they sell, or do they liquidate? I believe that the latter is at least possible, so the 'not one penny more' idea is a massive risk and could bring the whole thing crashing down (for good).

Perhaps I'm wrong. I respect your opinion even if I disagree with it, and your arguments are well thought out and reasoned - but even you must acknowledge that the use of the word 'scab' and the inflamatory language used by some towards those that plan to attend is unhelpful?
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Passions are inflamed and it does feel somewhat to me that those prepared to go to Northampton do vindicate the move and make things a lot easier for SISU. It feels a bit like betrayal and lets SISU off the hook to an extent. I don't think they're "proper, loyal supporters" as many like to suggest-in an inflammatory way

And I hate people who say "oh, I don't care about politics, I just want to watch football..." as that kind of apathy and ignorance leads to all sorts of abuse by those in power (in all walks of life..). I'm sure Linnell is right and there will be a few thousand people who don't go on internet forums who will go regardless.
 

Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

New Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #125
read the quote then come back with witty response...

McLovin87 said:
You're right we are all going to crumble at the first sniff of success and you will get the 32,000 going over to Northampton,Oh hold on!:thinking about:
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Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

New Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #126
ohitsaidwalker king power said:
I saw this thread earlier today and resisted the urge to immediately respond- perhaps regrettably valour has beaten my traditional discretionary nature.
Perhaps I should rise above, however;

35 years consecutive season ticket support sees me somewhat angered at the thought of being labelled a 'scab' should I choose to make that 36 years, 37, 38 (possibly 39 and 40). Like many, the sky blues chose me, a legacy of late grandfather and late father- genetically connected to this 'sky blue' cross to bear?
Like many I am faced with the head vs heart impossible decision.

> Head- perhaps directs me not to follow CCFC on their journey to the city of cobblers- starving the oppressive ownership of funds is an argument with some credence, equally well founded though is the undoubted terminal nature of such a protest.
>Heart- steers me another route; support the club- irrespective of owners or location- uphold 35 years and more- keep the family legacy alive and maintain it through my son, engender the passion in him for the club I love, my own legacy to him in some respects? Share quality time with him away from invasive TV and pesky gaming distractions.

Should I opt for the latter, does this really warrant the unsavoury label of 'scab' and the risk of the wrath of narrow minded folk ignorant to the right of others to make their own life choices, masking behind jingoistic sabre rattling to aide their "cause". Never will I let such an illiterate thought processes cloud my judgement.


If I choose to go to Northampton with my son I will do so with my head high.
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well said sir...my thoughts exactly.
 

Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #127
totally different to be honest...

ccfcway said:
as hypothetical as saying "where would you play Wayne Rooney" in Pressleys line up ?
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Skybluerevolution (Pt2)

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #128
Nonleagueherewecome said:
So you're mocking people for lacking principles based on an entirely hypothetical scenario of you're own creation in which we "all come flooding back" (to paraphrase Fisher the Fuckwit)? Do the men in white coats just not have your address?
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I am not mocking any one, if you cant be bothered to have a sensible debate with out trying to twist my words - let's not bother...I would rather spend my time having grown up discussion.
 

mrtickle

Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #129
This whole thread shows why Cov are such a shit supported club. Fans seem intent on fighting with each other, not the villains.

I can't say that I want to go to Northampton but when Saturdays are lonely, I might end up going to watch cov. Why, because I love the club, not because I love SISU. Does that make me or anyone else less of a fan????
 

hutch1972

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #130
Skybluerevolution (Pt2) said:
AFC Coventry - you having a laugh.....seriously, you believe this will happen, or Coventry UNITED - I support Coventry City FC, end of. We are sharing a ground for 3/5 years, not moving there...Northampton have a team.
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Wimbledon moved to SP for a short while ( 12 years) before realising they were never going to get permission for a new ground , the rest you already know.
People say there is no comparison with them, but i beg to differ.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #131
Grendel said:
We weren't weeks from "catastrophic" liquidation.
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So sorry he said Insolvent Liquidation somebody else said catastrophic
What about the question what has changed?
 

McLovin87

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #132
mrtickle said:
This whole thread shows why Cov are such a shit supported club. Fans seem intent on fighting with each other, not the villains.

I can't say that I want to go to Northampton but when Saturdays are lonely, I might end up going to watch cov. Why, because I love the club, not because I love SISU. Does that make me or anyone else less of a fan????
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This was always going to be an issue (should we go to Northampton or not) and generate a lot of lively debate and any other club's supporters would be divided as well.

The only way to fight the these Villians is to cut off the supply and force them into a corner, if people follow them over to Northampton it will just prolong the agony and shite we have had to put up with for the past 10 or so years!
 

hutch1972

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #133
mrtickle said:
This whole thread shows why Cov are such a shit supported club. Fans seem intent on fighting with each other, not the villains.

I can't say that I want to go to Northampton but when Saturdays are lonely, I might end up going to watch cov. Why, because I love the club, not because I love SISU. Does that make me or anyone else less of a fan????
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A shit supported club !!! A club that has been Feckin shit for most of my 50 years, a club that has had no top 6 finish for over 40 years, a club that has and still is taking us for granted year after year ,yet still averaged 10k in the 3rd div. I would call that great support !!!!
 

mrtickle

Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #134
Just look at Man City or Newcastle in the same league.

How many fans did we have at highfield road? 13-14k.

Coventry is a huge place but limited fans. We should be able to support 2 clubs!!!!
 
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theferret

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #135
mrtickle said:
Just look at Man City or Newcastle in the same league.

How many fans did we have at highfield road? 13-14k.

Coventry is a huge place but limited fans. We should be able to support 2 clubs!!!!
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Coventry is not a 'huge place', the urban area is smaller than Bournemouth. Absolute myth. And you're wrong about our gates too:

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/covc.htm
 
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mrtickle

Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #136
theferret said:
Coventry is not a 'huge place', the urban area is smaller than Bournemouth. Absolute myth. And you're wrong about our gates too:

http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/covc.htm
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Population wise, coventry is one of the largest. Add nuneaton , Bedworth , leamington and kenilworth, we should have filled our ground every week.
 

hutch1972

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #137
mrtickle said:
Population wise, coventry is one of the largest. Add nuneaton , Bedworth , leamington and kenilworth, we should have filled our ground every week.
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And we have and still would if we only had a couple of years of success.
 

mrtickle

Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #138
Yet everyone moans about the glory supporters
 

Paxman II

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  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #139
I think the very idea you would not support your team that you love so much is apathetic.
While I share some concerns about the end result of getting to a point 3 years from now and owning our own stadium is still a big IF that does not preclude me from watching my football club go through the riggers of the football league week in week out.

SISU have rightly ben derided for the stance they have taken but regardless of what people are saying the intent is to return to Coventry asap at it's own stadium as negotiating to stay at the Ricoh has become an impossible task and unless the Ricoh is more supportive of the football club and more overt to sharing income streams specifically generated by the 10's of thousands of sky blue fans then I can't see it changing anytime soon.

I would have thought that while SISU keep pumping money into the football club for the next 3 years knowing the gates at Northampton will be a quarter or less than the Ricoh site you would want to support them as much as you can in the hope they see the evidence that their plan is worthwhile? Show such distain and lack of support and they may just start wondering why they should continue with their plan?
 

mrtickle

Member
  • Jul 17, 2013
  • #140
Paxman II said:
I think the very idea you would not support your team that you love so much is apathetic.
While I share some concerns about the end result of getting to a point 3 years from now and owning our own stadium is still a big IF that does not preclude me from watching my football club go through the riggers of the football league week in week out.

SISU have rightly ben derided for the stance they have taken but regardless of what people are saying the intent is to return to Coventry asap at it's own stadium as negotiating to stay at the Ricoh has become an impossible task and unless the Ricoh is more supportive of the football club and more overt to sharing income streams specifically generated by the 10's of thousands of sky blue fans then I can't see it changing anytime soon.

I would have thought that while SISU keep pumping money into the football club for the next 3 years knowing the gates at Northampton will be a quarter or less than the Ricoh site you would want to support them as much as you can in the hope they see the evidence that their plan is worthwhile? Show such distain and lack of support and they may just start wondering why they should continue with their plan?
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Well said.
 
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