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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Today at 4:20 PM
  • #141
clint van damme said:
I can see Eccles making the step up (though I have to admit, I said the same about Bakayoko when we got promoted from L1).
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It's all about opinions, when I first saw Bakayoko play, I thought no way is he gonna make it with us.
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Today at 4:22 PM
  • #142
covcity4life said:
Maybe we can get some bargains from the 3 teams who go down?

Fleming or Edwards Burnley
That young lad who dribbles alot at wolves
Maddison spurs
Jesus or Hudson odoi forest
Tanaka Leeds
Traore West ham

Obviously some prob not realistic but could be some worth looking at.
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Why Maddison? He has ambitions to play in the Championship.
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 4:22 PM
  • #143
covcity4life said:
Consistently is my main issue with them both too. It seems a 50/50 toss up on performance. Maybe even 60/40 the wrong way
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Good point.
If we have a run of 3 or 4 games v teams in the bottom 3rd we'd all be identifying that as a run we'd need to get points from, we can't afford for them to be going through one of their poor spells.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 4:23 PM
  • #144
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
It's all about opinions, when I first saw Bakayoko play, I thought no way is he gonna make it with us.
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And you were right!
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 4:25 PM
  • #145
CraigSBA said:
I agree with the last part , supporters judge players far too emotionally (usually negatively )

In recent years some of our best goalscorers have been given loads of shit by fans

Wright
Godden
Mcnulty
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Simms,yes?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Today at 4:26 PM
  • #146
clint van damme said:
And you were right!
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Are you quoting me or covcity4life.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Today at 4:32 PM
  • #147
I would be looking for a new left side, EMC would be ok as a squad man but has real limitations same for Dasilva and a left sided centre half.

Hopefully by seeing how Grimes has done Doug will look to sign some players where the sell on value doesn’t matter.
 

mrfr

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  • Today at 4:58 PM
  • #148
baldy said:
That's one crap suggestion geez - players like Lati on the bench in the Prem? Come on
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It’s not a suggestion, it’s an expectation. Obviously if I was making suggestions we’d have Prime Maldini on the bench just incase Bobby picks up a knock.
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 5:02 PM
  • #149
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I would be looking for a new left side, EMC would be ok as a squad man but has real limitations same for Dasilva and a left sided centre half.

Hopefully by seeing how Grimes has done Doug will look to sign some players where the sell on value doesn’t matter.
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Unpopular I'm sure but doesn't have the flow to his runs like Haji does, frustrating for me.
 

David O'Day

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  • Today at 5:02 PM
  • #150
Lats isn't a PL CB but he;d be better than most in situations were it's backs to the wall defending and all you want cb to do is head and kick it
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 5:04 PM
  • #151
Levship20 said:
Think? We definitely need a couple of strikers, my goodness a semi retired Prem league centre half wouldn’t really break sweat against what we saw yesterday
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Prem sides won't be playing with 5 defenders and 4 midfielders joining them when we attack. Wright will score goals in the Prem but Simms would struggle.
 
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Bernie Rhodes Nose

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  • Today at 5:08 PM
  • #152
Bernie Rhodes Nose said:
...from now on we’ll be shopping at Harrods." (The "legendary" John Sillet)
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Nuff said. Lampards is at the Chelsea/ Man City game.
 

skybluecam

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  • Today at 5:17 PM
  • #153
clint van damme said:
Good point.
If we have a run of 3 or 4 games v teams in the bottom 3rd we'd all be identifying that as a run we'd need to get points from, we can't afford for them to be going through one of their poor spells.
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Surely consistency is less important for a side battling relegation, we'll need 35-40 points to stay up. 8-10 wins plus some draws. Wright going on one of his 5-10 game hot streaks could go a long way to securing that.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 5:17 PM
  • #154
skybluecam said:
Surely consistency is less important for a side battling relegation, we'll need 35-40 points to stay up. 8-10 wins plus some draws. Wright going on one of his 5-10 game hot streaks could go a long way to securing that.
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How confident are you that he'll do that in the PL?
 

skybluecam

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  • Today at 5:23 PM
  • #155
clint van damme said:
How confident are you that he'll do that in the PL?
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Wouldn't surprise me either way if he struggles with prem defences or actually thrives with more space to run into against high lines.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 5:24 PM
  • #156
skybluecam said:
Wouldn't surprise me either way if he struggles with prem defences or actually thrives with more space to run into against high lines.
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I agree, it could go either way with him.
But these spells he has where he's totally off it worry me.
 
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Otis

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  • Today at 5:28 PM
  • #157
covboy9 said:
Priority in order

goalkeeper
Striker
Left back
Centre back
DM
2nd striker

I’ve lost patience with wright and Simms
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You know what, I wouldn't be surprised if Wright is still suffering from injury and that they are trying to manage it

I don't think FL has that much faith in Simms.

Wright just doesn't quite seem his usual self. I know he can be a bit hit and miss, but just doesn't look quite as sharp

But in saying that, he was chasing down balls yesterday okay

I rate him, but of late, he has been very frustrating to watch.
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 5:30 PM
  • #158
Otis said:
You know what, I wouldn't be surprised if Wright is still suffering from injury and that they are trying to manage it

I don't think FL has that much faith in Simms.

Wright just doesn't quite seem his usual self. I know he can be a bit hit and miss, but just doesn't look quite as sharp

But in saying that, he was chasing down balls yesterday okay

I rate him, but of late, he has been very frustrating to watch.
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I said quite a while ago I think he's one of those players that needs to be pretty much 100% fit to perform but Im not so sure now.
 

Mr.Chilled

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  • Today at 5:32 PM
  • #159
shmmeee said:
You wouldn’t start Rudi?
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Depends how he recovers from the shoulder amputation in the Summer.
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 5:39 PM
  • #160
clint van damme said:
How confident are you that he'll do that in the PL?
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As confident as you can be. He is a 2 footed striker who has strength and pace. The question for me is will we give him chances to score. We will be playing on the counter attack most of the season so his style of play will help.

What seems to have been forgotten is how close a unit our players are. They know each other well and how each other play. I can see us keeping our 1st team and adding quality to them unless some big offers come in.

Look at before this season started. We were supposed to have a decent 1st team but nothing else, but nobody has let us down. Next season will be the same. Onyeka has been there and done it. Rudoni, EMC, Grimes and similar will play their part. They will be up against it when playing teams like Arsenal and Manchester City, but they are better than many seem to think.
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 5:44 PM
  • #161
Lamps said:
As confident as you can be. He is a 2 footed striker who has strength and pace. The question for me is will we give him chances to score. We will be playing on the counter attack most of the season so his style of play will help.

What seems to have been forgotten is how close a unit our players are. They know each other well and how each other play. I can see us keeping our 1st team and adding quality to them unless some big offers come in.

Look at before this season started. We were supposed to have a decent 1st team but nothing else, but nobody has let us down. Next season will be the same. Onyeka has been there and done it. Rudoni, EMC, Grimes and similar will play their part. They will be up against it when playing teams like Arsenal and Manchester City, but they are better than many seem to think.
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My concerns about him aren't really about his ability more his apllication.

Can he do it, yes, will he do it?

Let's see.
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 5:48 PM
  • #162
clint van damme said:
My concerns about him aren't really about his ability more his apllication.

Can he do it, yes, will he do it?

Let's see.
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If he can't get motivated playing in the Prem with hundreds of millions of people watching he might as well retire. This is his chance of making the USA striker role his own.
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 5:51 PM
  • #163
Lamps said:
If he can't get motivated playing in the Prem with hundreds of millions of people watching he might as well retire. This is his chance of making the USA striker role his own.
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He came back from international duty earlier in the season having scored 2 goals, had Lampard eulogising about him, I thought hes going to fly, and he proceeded to under perform for 2 months.


So yes, youd think he'd be massively motivated, but humans are complex as we know, and I definitely think that applies to him.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 6:15 PM
  • #164
Otis said:
I rate him, but of late, he has been very frustrating to watch.
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That's Wright, though; he's frequently unplayable or looks like he's never played before. There's not a huge amount of middle ground, either.

Tbh, I expect him to be the same in the Premier League; I don't expect him to be out of his depth, but he'll have his poor spells. The difference is those spells will hurt us more.

I expect him to be here next season, but as an option, not guaranteed first choice.
 
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baldy

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  • Today at 6:16 PM
  • #165
Bernie Rhodes Nose said:
Nuff said. Lampards is at the Chelsea/ Man City game.
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So? He DID used to play for both so he could just be there to watch 2 old teams of his play
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 6:26 PM
  • #166
baldy said:
So? He DID used to play for both so he could just be there to watch 2 old teams of his play
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Great deduction Sherlock.
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 6:34 PM
  • #167
clint van damme said:
He came back from international duty earlier in the season having scored 2 goals, had Lampard eulogising about him, I thought hes going to fly, and he proceeded to under perform for 2 months.


So yes, youd think he'd be massively motivated, but humans are complex as we know, and I definitely think that applies to him.
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Do you think he was unmotivated, knackered or unlucky?
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 6:36 PM
  • #168
Lamps said:
Do you think he was unmotivated, knackered or unlucky
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Or not 100% fit.

I've settled on everyone of those options at one point or another and changed my mind!

So I don't have the answer to be honest. Though I don't think he's unmotivated.
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 6:44 PM
  • #169
Shannerz said:
That's Wright, though; he's frequently unplayable or looks like he's never played before. There's not a huge amount of middle ground, either.

Tbh, I expect him to be the same in the Premier League; I don't expect him to be out of his depth, but he'll have his poor spells. The difference is those spells will hurt us more.

I expect him to be here next season, but as an option, not guaranteed first choice.
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And there's the point.

All players go in and out of form. The more they stay in form, especially as a striker, the bigger the club is that goes in for the player.

10 goals for a Prem striker isn't bad, especially one coming from the Championship. If he played most of the season I would bet on him getting 10 goals or more.
 

clint van damme

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  • Today at 6:47 PM
  • #170
Lamps said:
And there's the point.

All players go in and out of form. The more they stay in form, especially as a striker, the bigger the club is that goes in for the player.

10 goals for a Prem striker isn't bad, especially one coming from the Championship. If he played most of the season I would bet on him getting 10 goals or more.
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And that's why I'm flip flopping on this a bit, we might spend a big chunk on a striker who doesn't give us much more for our money.

Though both Wright and Simms need to be better at getting hold of the ball and taking the pressure off, (Simms has shown some improvement in that area recently).
 
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Lamps

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  • Today at 6:49 PM
  • #171
clint van damme said:
Or not 100% fit.

I've settled on everyone of those options at one point or another and changed my mind!

So I don't have the answer to be honest. Though I don't think he's unmotivated.
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None of us have the answer mate. What I am going by is some of the goals he has got that top Prem strikers would be proud of. He is more than capable of scoring very good goals.
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 6:53 PM
  • #172
clint van damme said:
And that's why I'm flip flopping on this a bit, we might spend a big chunk on a striker who doesn't give us much more for our money.

Though both Wright and Simms need to be better at getting hold of the ball and taking the pressure off, (Simms has shown some improvement in that area recently).
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Simms has improved but he still isn't close to Wright IMHO.

If we still have Simms next season and he gets a lot of game time I can't see us staying up. Maybe a club like Middlesbrough will come in with a decent bid for him.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 6:53 PM
  • #173
Lamps said:
Do you think he was unmotivated, knackered or unlucky?
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There's no chance he's not motivated.

I get frustrated by the accusations of lack of application or that he's uninterested. His style is languid and he's (despite his size) a stealth striker, not a blood and thunder one, but he's clearly committed to the cause.
 

Lamps

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  • Today at 6:55 PM
  • #174
Shannerz said:
There's no chance he's not motivated.

I get frustrated by the accusations of lack of application or that he's uninterested. His style is languid and he's (despite his size) a stealth striker, not a blood and thunder one, but he's clearly committed to the cause.
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Of course, but different people read the game differently.
 

Fergusons_Beard

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  • Today at 6:58 PM
  • #175
Strikers are defo good enough-only have to look at the Premiership and compare Simms and Wright to what striker options the teams in the bottom half have got.

Our pair are better than MOST of what’s there-as a PAIR! Why the hell would you get rid?

Pace and physicality-plus they won’t be getting pulled around by snidey championship defenders because of VAR.

Most of the idiots in here have forgotten what the did to Premiership side Wolves!

Defo need a left back as Desilva not good enough for the rigours of Premiership-despite being starting full back for Wales. (Poss keep as a back up)

Goalie and I hope to god it’s Rushworth-King needs to go all out to get him.

Centre back-need a physically imposing, ball playing giant probably from abroad.

Only keep Bobby and Lats are a back up.

Keep KKH (again look at the bottom half of prem-he’s better than a lot of them) as a decent back up for MVE who most defo is Prem quality.

Need another midfield battler in the mould of the Tank. Grimes, Rudoni & Frank all good enough.

Torp decent back up-as proved in the semi against Man Utd.

Shame but Eccles clearly hasn’t the physical resilience to stick a full year in Prem.

Wingers (tats, EMC) all good enough (inc Markello as pace earns him a place) BTA not good enough & only one I’d jettison.

That means one right winger and a forward thinking midfielder to cover for Rudoni.

That’s it.

We need to keep hold of majority as that team spirit that we created under Robins and was harnessed by Lampard will disappear with wholesale changes-plus King will very rightly keep the purse strings tight.

We need to look at the likes of Brentford and not Sunderland-the bees kept the majority of their players and added sensible additions.

We still are a majority backer of the algorithm recruitment company-so expect some massive signings that are up and coming in obscure Euro leagues.


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