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Grendel

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,051
David O'Day said:
You don't have to announce you posting grenners
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You even got a like from Tony
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,052
Fair play to Starmer, he's not given Wed Streeting, Stella Creasey or Jess Phillips a shadow cabinet role as yet. 3 utter twats
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,053
Grendel said:
You even got a like from Tony
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True will out old boy
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,054
David O'Day said:
True will out old boy
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Amusing really as Tony the doomsayer of Tory austerity cuts voted more for them in the last few years than I ever have
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,055
fernandopartridge said:
Fair play to Starmer, he's not given Wed Streeting, Stella Creasey or Jess Phillips a shadow cabinet role as yet. 3 utter twats
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Yeah it looks a strong shadow cabinet, not burton Gardiner etc and none of streeting, creasy or Phillip's. Jess has had an awful 5 months
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,056
Grendel said:
Amusing really as Tony the doomsayer of Tory austerity cuts voted more for them in the last few years than I ever have
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That has nothing to do with my joke about you announcing your post
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,057
David O'Day said:
That has nothing to do with my joke about you announcing your post
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It wasn’t really funny though David that was my point
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,058
Grendel said:
The idiot returns

Ed Miliband returns to Labour top team
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Why do you call him that? Weak and nerdy maybe but I’ve never seen anyone suggest he’s stupid.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,059
Grendel said:
He needs to get his answers quickly on Brexit and ensure he doesn’t start muttering well may return to the Eu or he’s dead in the water
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I doubt anyone other than wingnuts like yourself will give a shit about Brexit in four years TBH. Back to the preserve of pub racists.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,060
Grendel said:
Amusing really as Tony the doomsayer of Tory austerity cuts voted more for them in the last few years than I ever have
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Seen the light. Only took me until I was 44. What’s your excuse for being so slow on the uptake?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,061
shmmeee said:
Why do you call him that? Weak and nerdy maybe but I’ve never seen anyone suggest he’s stupid.
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I don’t really - Tony was just annoying me with his road to Damascus transformation
and was trying to get him to bite.

he seemed to struggle eating a bacon sandwich and was maligned for that which I always found odd

Election 2015
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,062
Grendel said:
I don’t really - Tony was just annoying me with his road to Damascus transformation
and was trying to get him to bite.

he seemed to struggle eating a bacon sandwich and was maligned for that which I always found odd

Election 2015
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Your obsession with me is getting concerning.
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,063
Grendel said:
It wasn’t really funny though David that was my point
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It was but as it's about you, you are just being sore.
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,064
David O'Day said:
Yeah it looks a strong shadow cabinet, not burton Gardiner etc and none of streeting, creasy or Phillip's. Jess has had an awful 5 months
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I think she was rash in going for the leadership - she clearly hasn't got enough years in Parliament under her belt to do that. But i hope it's not because people don't like the way she comes across - gobby Brummy women deserve as much of a chance as anyone. Although sometimes i think she might be better suited to HIGNFY than HoC.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,065
shmmeee said:
Why do you call him that? Weak and nerdy maybe but I’ve never seen anyone suggest he’s stupid.
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I agree. Since he left the top job he's come across well when I've seen him. More relaxed and at ease.

Plus how are you feeling and have you called the doctor/111?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,066
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I think she was rash in going for the leadership - she clearly hasn't got enough years in Parliament under her belt to do that. But i hope it's not because people don't like the way she comes across - gobby Brummy women deserve as much of a chance as anyone. Although sometimes i think she might be better suited to HIGNFY than HoC.
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She's been an MP as long as the new leader and deputy.

Tbf being on HIGNFY didn't stop Johnson...
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,067
Deleted member 5849 said:
She's been an MP as long as the new leader and deputy.

Tbf being on HIGNFY didn't stop Johnson...
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True - on both counts! But there is probably a perceived difference if you're a gobby male Old Etonian!
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,068
Deleted member 5849 said:
She's been an MP as long as the new leader and deputy.

Tbf being on HIGNFY didn't stop Johnson...
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HIGNFY can be good for public profile if you come across well or are at least memorable like Johnson and JRM have been on the program and afterwards become much more prominent in the party.

One seemingly to avoid is Last Leg. Political graveyard. Clegg, Miliband, Corbyn, Soubry. And Jess Phillips has been on that.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,069
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
I agree. Since he left the top job he's come across well when I've seen him. More relaxed and at ease.

Plus how are you feeling and have you called the doctor/111?
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Much better TBH. Not having coughing fits and chest isn’t tight, cough more productive now. Did try to get hold of my old GP but couldn’t get past the automated system as I didn’t know the phone number registered! I’ll be honest was going to call 111 but now I can breathe freely it seemed a bit silly just for a cough.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,070
shmmeee said:
Much better TBH. Not having coughing fits and chest isn’t tight, cough more productive now. Did try to get hold of my old GP but couldn’t get past the automated system as I didn’t know the phone number registered! I’ll be honest was going to call 111 but now I can breathe freely it seemed a bit silly just for a cough.
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Well that's good news, all be it on a very small scale. Keep an eye on it and don't just convince yourself it's easing off if it isn't. Take care.
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 6, 2020
  • #1,071
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
I think she was rash in going for the leadership - she clearly hasn't got enough years in Parliament under her belt to do that. But i hope it's not because people don't like the way she comes across - gobby Brummy women deserve as much of a chance as anyone. Although sometimes i think she might be better suited to HIGNFY than HoC.
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I don’t like her because she’s a hypocrite... her gender and place of birth are immaterial.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,072
Thought this is probably better in here than derailing the coronavirus thread again.

The full report is online, lot of it at 800 pages.
https://cdn.fbsbx.com/v/t59.2708-21/93060879_3535742979774800_3317814660807262208_n.pdf/200329-Labour-Report-Final.pdf?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=0cab14&_nc_ohc=ITM7LE_kchEAX-qXFCC&_nc_ht=cdn.fbsbx.com&oh=27a72d103ed243d91fbb285a2836fe8e&oe=5E94A60C&dl=1…

Quick look through and there's some incredible stuff in there, can't really see it being an option for Starmer to just ignore this.

There's messages from the Whats App group taking about shooting Labour left wingers and hoping they die in fires. Describes a secret team put in place and funding being diverted to them, away from marginals, to fund campaigning for candidates on the right of the party.

Also seems it didn't start with Corbyn, even Miliband and the 2015 manifesto are labelled as too left wing!
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,073
Just flicking through but absolutely damning.
Blaitites actually destroying evidence in antisemitism complaint cases in order to hinder investigations and make the party look poor at dealing with them.

They really care about antisemitism don't they?
What I don't understand is if you think Miliband or Burnham are too left wing why don't you just join the Tories?
 
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mrtrench

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,074
CCFCSteve said:
wish I’d never bothered posting now...
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Yeah, I reached that stage about 12 months ago. Absolutely pointless.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,075
Yahoo is now a part of Verizon Media
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,076
Nice to see Naz Shah in the shadow cabinet after her views on the grooming gangs.Do they ever learn??
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,077
westcountry_skyblue said:
Nice to see Naz Shah in the shadow cabinet after her views on the grooming gangs.Do they ever learn??
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westcountry_skyblue said:
Nice to see Naz Shah in the shadow cabinet after her views on the grooming gangs.Do they ever learn??
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Really? Awesome attempt to root out racism

Naz Shah: My words were anti-Semitic
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,078
westcountry_skyblue said:
Nice to see Naz Shah in the shadow cabinet after her views on the grooming gangs.Do they ever learn??
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She's not in the shadow cabinet Tommy

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
 
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westcountry_skyblue

Guest
  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,079
She’s on the front bench Timmy
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,080
skybluetony176 said:
Your obsession with me is getting concerning.
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I have noticed this. What have you done to him? He normally likes all the attention on him but he’s mad for following you around
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 13, 2020
  • #1,081
Ring Of Steel said:
I have noticed this. What have you done to him? He normally likes all the attention on him but he’s mad for following you around
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Ive replies to I’d guess less than twenty of his posts in the last year - great try though - I occasionally do it when he becomes too tiresome
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2020
  • #1,082
Reply to @Ian1779
Lansmans already fired up his lawyers after he got looks over for an internal position in favour of someone vastly less qualified.
There will be plenty more solicitors been consulted over the next few days of imagine.
Potentially from both sides if any allegations can be refuted
 
Last edited: Apr 14, 2020

clint van damme

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  • Apr 14, 2020
  • #1,083
Reply to @shmmeee
My biggest concern in the bits I've read so far, apart from the weaponisation of antisemitism which was obvious any way is the resistance to Andy Burnhams plans for the NHS.
For me the NHS is a sacred cow and to see people within the party opposed to it's total public ownership rings alarm bells for me
 
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 14, 2020
  • #1,084
clint van damme said:
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My biggest concern in the bits I've read so far, apart from the weaponisation of antisemitism which was obvious any way is the resistance to Andy Burnhams plans for the NHS.
For me the NHS is a sacred cow and to see people within the party opposed to it's total public ownership rings alarm bells for me
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Yeah I couldn’t believe that Burnham was seen as too left wing. The reaction to Corbyn and the left in generally was hysterical.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 14, 2020
  • #1,085
clint van damme said:
Reply to @shmmeee
My biggest concern in the bits I've read so far, apart from the weaponisation of antisemitism which was obvious any way is the resistance to Andy Burnhams plans for the NHS.
For me the NHS is a sacred cow and to see people within the party opposed to it's total public ownership rings alarm bells for me
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Provided it remains free at the point of service I’m not opposed to things being privately run but what we have seen with academisation of schools is that it would be better in some places and worse in others. But it is already inconsistent in the first place-so I’m not sure what the best way forward is for it
 
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