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bigfatronssba

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  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #281
stupot07 said:
I know we don't know how much. But what would you seem an acceptable level rent and how much for matchday revenue?

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Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
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I've honestly no idea, rent I suppose £150k in league 1, on a sliding scale dependent on division.

Revenues is difficult to say without knowing exactly what their worth.

It would be much simpler if the deal was CCFC are in complete control of the stadium bowl on matchdays. Paying a slightly higher rent but keeping all the revenues.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #282
bigfatronssba said:
I would expect Wasps to ask for at least market value. At this point I must add I have no idea how much that would be.
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They've paid £5.6m for a 250 year lease, I think it was said CCFC are less than 10% of ACL's revenue so on that basis £2,240 a year should be a fair price for CCFC to get all the money they generate. Think they'll agree to that?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #283
bigfatronssba said:
I would expect Wasps to ask for at least market value. At this point I must add I have no idea how much that would be.

I would be angry if Sisu used the same negotiating tactics as in the past, pissing off Wasps, and then ended up having to pay millions for a new ground just to get what they could have had for a fraction of the price.

Likewise if Wasps took the piss with what they were asking I would be angry with them for that.

Basically I would be angry at whichever side wasn't reasonable or sensible. (although I am that apathetic with it all now it would be very limited anger).
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A new stadium should be plan B. Plan A should be trying as hard as possible to get all the money produced by the club going into the club's coffers. I just see a stumbling block with the the obvious fact that this doesn't benefit Wasps and as businessmen they won't part with these revenues without something major from the club.

Unfortunately our negotiating team will be spearheaded by 'We batter them in court' Fisher.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #284
Ha Ha Ha same old shit another day.

Oh and for those that have been asking thanks but I am doing ok at the moment my start working in the New year as it gets a bit boring just sitting here counting my money.

And yes your right Jan, Steve and the others should all resign and leave it to you lot.

Then again how would you attend meetings and such when you all have work and family lives?


Steve,Jan if your reading this let them have it, you don't need this shit.
They can all do a better job.:facepalm:
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #285
letsallsingtogether said:
Ha Ha Ha same old shit another day.

Oh and for those that have been asking thanks but I am doing ok at the moment my start working in the New year as it gets a bit boring just sitting here counting my money.

And yes your right Jan, Steve and the others should all resign and leave it to you lot.

Then again how would you attend meetings and such when you all have work and family lives?


Steve,Jan if your reading this let them have it, you don't need this shit.
They can all do a better job.:facepalm:
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So you don't find jans comments strange?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #286
SimonGilbert said:
Whose side am I supposedly on this week? I lose track.
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Your turn in the blame game again. Bet you are annoyed Wasps have knocked you and the council off your perch as top instigators of this whole sorry affair
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #287
Nick said:
Is this it?

https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/547371616553152513
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Chief dave did you read this?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #288
dongonzalos said:
Chief dave did you read this?
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Did you read jans comments?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #289
Nick said:
So you don't find Jans comments strange?
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No, he like the rest of us has had enough, this has taken it toll on the trust committee don't think people realise just how much is involved.

Being called out of work or home time to go to meetings with one side or the other.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #290
dongonzalos said:
Your turn in the blame game again. Bet you are annoyed Wasps have knocked you and the council off your perch as top instigators of this whole sorry affair
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NO NO NO It is all the Trusts fault now.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #291
letsallsingtogether said:
No, he like the rest of us has had enough, this has taken it toll on the trust committee don't think people realise just how much is involved.

Being called out of work or home time to go to meetings with one side or the other.
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Nobody has questioned that though? Anybody ever says anything and the reply is "you do it then"'. Yet everybody just agrees with random comments like that solidly?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #292
letsallsingtogether said:
NO NO NO It is all the Trusts fault now.
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Nobody has said that have they?
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #293
Grendel said:
I know one thing - I wouldn't say I enjoyed a game of franchised rugby better than the team I support . There is no election is there, 99% of members don't care and now we know why. The "board" are more interesting in promoting London rugby teams at the Ricoh.

Its pathetic. You couldn't make it up.
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FFS two years worth of this shit to come now

You said you enjoyed a match of a franchise team better than your own team

He actually said he enjoyed strictly more as well. (I assume you like strictly as you haven't been bleating about that line)
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #294
letsallsingtogether said:
NO NO NO It is all the Trusts fault now.
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That's bollox

Blame game current status ....

1) Wasps
2) Council
3) CET
4) Trust
5) David Conn
6) Joe Elliot Gary Hoffman
7) Richard Keyes
8) SISU old regime
9) Ram Raiders
10) Stephen Preseley
11) Carl Baker
12) SISU new Regime
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #295
Nick said:
Nobody has said that have they?
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Obviously not not if you say so.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #296
letsallsingtogether said:
Obviously not not if you say so.
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Because it wasn't said maybe? Fucking hell what is going on with people? It's not what I say, it's what actually happened, or didn't.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #297
Nick said:
Did you read jans comments?
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Yep agree with a lot of it. Not all of it, think he said some bits in anger he may not mean as he got wound up by the usual pack like windup kings having an attack at one person.

I would never have choose Strictly over CCFC f'ing outrageous.

However if people are going to get all pious over the wasps move I presume they will be similarly outraged if we got a brand new spanking stadium in Nuneaton ( it wouldn't bother me too much) would prefer it to be in Cov though.
 
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stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #298
dongonzalos said:
Yep agree with a lot of it. Not all of it, think he said some bits in anger he may not mean as he got wound up by the usual pack like windup kings having an attack at one person.

I would never have choose Strictly over CCFC f'ing outrageous.

However if people are going to get all pious over the wasps move I presume they will be similarly outraged if we got a brand new spanking stadium in Northampton ( it wouldn't bother me too much) would prefer it to be in Cov though.
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Yes, I think all fans would be outrage if they built a new stadium in Northampton - 35 miles away is too far and would be a franchise..That would be me done.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #299
dongonzalos said:
Chief dave did you read this?
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I did, don't see anything there that indicates CCC & Higgs offered the same deal to CCFC they offered to Wasps.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #300
dongonzalos said:
Yep agree with a lot of it. Not all of it, think he said some bits in anger he may not mean as he got wound up by the usual pack like windup kings having an attack at one person.

I would never have choose Strictly over CCFC f'ing outrageous.

However if people are going to get all pious over the wasps move I presume they will be similarly outraged if we got a brand new spanking stadium in Northampton ( it wouldn't bother me too much) would prefer it to be in Cov though.
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Yes I'd give up supporting and be outraged if we moved to Northampton full time.

Attacking? Seriously? Somebody posts something as bad as that and people pick up on it shocker. Apparently trust people won't post on here, it looks as if it's because when they post crazy stuff like that it doesn't get straight out agreed with and defended to the death no matter what.

I think more people get annoyed by people such as Jan who throw the sad and selfish comments about, while saying they don't give a fuck about how wasps fans are treated while he goes to wasps games?

Have you seen anybody giving wasps fans abuse for traveling up? Any scab type stuff?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #301
stupot07 said:
Yes, I think all fans would be outrage if they built a new stadium in Northampton - 35 miles away is too far and would be a franchise..That would be me done.

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To me anywhere outside Cov is a franchise.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #302
letsallsingtogether said:
To me anywhere outside Cov is a franchise.
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But what's wrong with that? You agreed with jans posts justifying franchises?
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #303
Nick said:
Yes I'd give up supporting and be outraged if we moved to Northampton full time.

Attacking? Seriously? Somebody posts something as bad as that and people pick up on it shocker. Apparently trust people won't post on here, it looks as if it's because when they post crazy stuff like that it doesn't get straight out agreed with and defended to the death no matter what.

I think more people get annoyed by people such as Jan who throw the sad and selfish comments about, while saying they don't give a fuck about how wasps fans are treated while he goes to wasps games?

Have you seen anybody giving wasps fans abuse for traveling up? Any scab type stuff?
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And who got abused at sixfields who got called scabs?

One game by 2 piss heads, but hey you have all been badly treated.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #304
Yet you said Jan's comments were fine.

letsallsingtogether said:
To me anywhere outside Cov is a franchise.
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #305
letsallsingtogether said:
And who got abused at sixfields who got called scabs?

One game by 2 piss heads, but hey you have all been badly treated.
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Did you not come on here then or see twitter?
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #306
He's one of those who sees and hears only what he wants. Hence, the comments from Jan are fine.

Nick said:
Did you not come on here then or see twitter?
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Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #307
torchomatic said:
He's one of those who sees and hears only what he wants. Hence, the comments from Jan are fine.
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In fairness, I think a lot of it is frustration and not thinking before posting.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #308
Nick said:
But what's wrong with that? You agreed with jans posts justifying franchises?
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Where have I said I agreed or didn't with Jans comments?

That's it accuse others of reading things how they want to then do it yourself.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #309
letsallsingtogether said:
Where have I said I agreed or didn't with Jans comments?

That's it accuse others of reading things how they want to then do it yourself.
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You did, where I asked if you found jans posts strange. I'm not making anything up? It's all.there to read back.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #310
torchomatic said:
He's one of those who sees and hears only what he wants. Hence, the comments from Jan are fine.
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Ha Ha coming from you that's a corker:facepalm:
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #311
Nick said:
You did, where I asked if you found jans posts strange. I'm not making anything up? It's all.there to read back.
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Did I say I agreed with it?
No I didn't.

I said I didn't find it strange but hay ho it's all right for you to read it one way but not others.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #312
Nick said:
So if it wasn't distressed, why was it sold so cheap? If ACL was still getting stronger and stronger, surely it wasn't such a great deal for the "tax payers" and they didn't HAVE to sell?

We need a reporter to try and ask about that.

If it was distressed, then why are people going on about how great it was doing etc.
If it wasn't, then why was it sold so cheap when it didn't need to be?
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A bit like the cov telegraph then when asking questions about new ground and the rest of the bullshit sisu spout
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #313
letsallsingtogether said:
Did I say I agreed with it?
No I didn't.

I said I didn't find it strange but hay ho it's all right for you to read it one way but not others.
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Surely you would find it strange if you didn't agree? Especially as he just contradicted himself in two lines. You seem to be defending the comments and people disagreeing them with all the "why don't you do it" stuff.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #314
Nick said:
Not that one, the selfish and sad one...

No, I don't expect the trust to be blinded by anything. I expect them to be balanced and professional.
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Like yourself of course.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 23, 2014
  • #315
martcov said:
Like yourself of course.
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Don't think I run a fans organization do I?

Speaking of balanced, managed to read much about the fleetwood game yet or still too busy?
 
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