Warwickhunt
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They certainly did when we lost the Semi against Manure! Your words are what the guys in VAR said!What do the tv audience want because that’s what coming
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Mucca Mad Boys
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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alexccfc99
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Tbh I’m usually a big advocate for a cup run - But not interested this year, just have to get ourselves promoted as top priority and the less games we have to play the better
The return of 78?
Otis
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Seymour_East
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Sutton United away, I demand revenge!
Sky Blue Harry H
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Non league team at home. 30 points for attendance. £60 a ticket. Love Doug 
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Don’t care we won’t win the cup or even get to the final anyway the FA will make sure of that again.
Cally Fedora
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FA Cup as a thing is all but defunct now anyway. Ruined by the likes of Mourinho and Wenger and the glut of money available in The Champions League.
lord_garrincha
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To be fair to José... he took ALL cup comps seriously, and his record showed that.
The scheduling has probably been worse than the above.
Brighton Sky Blue
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No replays, 5th round in midweek, scheduling that assumes half the Championship teams won’t make the 4th round…the powers that be have devalued the competition more than Arsene Wenger FFS.
rob9872
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I'd say Wengers FA cup record too showed intent.
It was ruined for me by Man Utd choosing the club world cup over it.
covcity4life
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Ruined by fans saying they don't care about a cup run too surely?
Fans can't act holier than thou when they then talk about wanting to go out etc
It all effects the magic of the cup
fernandopartridge
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Spot on
Mucca Mad Boys
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It's the same the EFL Cup too, fans are voting with their feet and treating these games as second class because in truth, they are. If they scrapped the EFL Cup next season, fans won't shed a tear. Winning the FA Cup in 23/24 would've been legendary and better than winning promotion that season, this season however, we have a real chance of automatic promotion and to set the club up for next 5-10 years, you can't pass up on that.
If the powers that be cared about the FA Cup, why not allocate a UCL spot to the FA Cup winner? We'll soon see Prem teams take the competition seriously but they won't.
covcity4life
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It's nearly always won by a big team tbf
Mucca Mad Boys
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Exactly, there's only been a few instances in recent years where a non-top 4 team have won it:
Palace - 24/25
Leicester - 20/21 - this would've been a UCL shootout
Arsenal - 19/20
Chelsea 17/18
Winner gets UCL, runner up get Europa league if applicable. Even the winners are generally 5-8th if not already in the Top 4.
Brighton Sky Blue
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UEFA don’t allow domestic cup winners into the CL do they?
pusbccfc
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Same. At home.v
Mucca Mad Boys
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I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure. AI slop seems to indicate 'yes' but I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
A big issue with the Prem is that it's a league of 'have and have nots', if you not fighting for survival or the Top 8, you're bobbing along really. The big incentive of a UCL place for winning the FA Cup gives a significant cash injection for clubs doing nothing. If you're 4-6th place, you're probably giving the FA Cup your all in case some midtable team like Everton win the FA Cup.
To be clear, it should only be reserved for the winner. If you get runner up, maybe an Europa League spot in some circumstances.
EDIT - apparently they can but an existing proposal on the table previously has effectively said yes, but on certain conditions.
FA Cup winner to be awarded Champions League spot - but there's a big catch
Holders Leicester City would still only have been in the Europa League.
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Brighton Sky Blue
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It’s just of course that generally UEFA gives more weight to league position than cup performance when it comes to qualification (and rightly so). If they allowed it however then sure.I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure. AI slop seems to indicate 'yes' but I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
A big issue with the Prem is that it's a league of 'have and have nots', if you not fighting for survival or the Top 8, you're bobbing along really. The big incentive of a UCL place for winning the FA Cup gives a significant cash injection for clubs doing nothing. If you're 4-6th place, you're probably giving the FA Cup your all in case some midtable team like Everton win the FA Cup.
To be clear, it should only be reserved for the winner. If you get runner up, maybe an Europa League spot in some circumstances.
EDIT - apparently they can but an existing proposal on the table previously has effectively said yes, but on certain conditions.
FA Cup winner to be awarded Champions League spot - but there's a big catch
Holders Leicester City would still only have been in the Europa League.
Mucca Mad Boys
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I agree that should, but looking at most historical season, there’s a clear Top 3 followed by another 2-3 teams that are separate by 1-3 points. Why not guarantee Top 3 for UCL and if the FA Cup is won by an automatic qualifier, it roles to 4th place. If the winner is outside that, they get the reward.
When you have teams like Lincoln Red Imps qualifying for the UCL, in principle wouldn’t be much different to a Championship club qualifying via FA Cup on the minute chance they win an FA Cup.
Perhaps the extra stakes generates more interest in the competition and therefore TV revenue but that’s wishful thinking. The financial might of the Premiership would almost definitely veto the proposal so the best hope is that we get a 5th spot from UEFA, we can allocate it to the FA Cup.
RegTheDonk
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The Cup was grand affair and when we struggled in the top flight, or even in the subsequent champ years, it was a welcome chance of some glory.
If we had lots of depth/cover in the squad then would obviously love to progress, but an injury free team for the league is priority IMHO.
If we had lots of depth/cover in the squad then would obviously love to progress, but an injury free team for the league is priority IMHO.
Cally Fedora
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No, the fan bit came second. As a result of years of shadow squads and ridiculous rotation.
covcity4life
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No doubt. But 2 years ago at Wembley no one was thinking about that.
If we get a favourable run where we can rotate we should want to go as far as possible
Hobo
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I remember when we were in top flight, the FA Cup draw might offer a bit of excitement to the season
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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We've been waiting for many years for a big home cup draw to fill the stadium now that we are filling the stadium will probably end up getting a big home cup draw, sod's law. 