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AOM

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  • Saturday at 4:57 PM
  • #36
Major Tom said:
Made captain again too. He isn’t and never was a captain on the pitch, too passive. He most probably gets it as professional off the pitch.
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Yeah I'm a fan of Sheaf, but think I'd prefer someone like Grimes or Kitching in as captain and let Sheaf just focus on his own game
 
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DT-R

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  • Saturday at 5:00 PM
  • #37
Saddlebrains said:
He used to be my favourite player, he's rapidly gone to my least favourite. Absolute waste of a wage
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Even below Lati and Collins? Sheesh, that's some low!

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skybluecam

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  • Saturday at 5:10 PM
  • #38
Major Tom said:
Made captain again too. He isn’t and never was a captain on the pitch, too passive. He most probably gets it as professional off the pitch.
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He wasn’t made captain “again”. You keep the armband until it’s taken off you.
 
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Jamesimus

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  • Saturday at 5:12 PM
  • #39
JSL said:
Explain to ne how he breaks down so quickly then Sherlock
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Unfortunately we are all different. You can be the best player in the world, but how your skeleton, muscles, joints and tendons hold up to the rigours of football is in part, a genetic lottery. Obviously there are elements of keeping yourself fit, warming up etc but a lot of things like that just depends on who you are.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Saturday at 5:14 PM
  • #40
Unfortunately some of you need a wake up call that he was never that good. He wouldn't still be here if he was. We can argue all day about how we should have cashed in previously, but the demand simply wasn't there for him either, so it is a pointless discussion.

It must be very hard for him, and it is a shame he will be out, because competition for the team is good, but the reality is that he's currently holding us back. Down to, at best, fourth choice, and a very poor decision for the captain's armband, as well as being extremely injury prone.

No serious fan is taking delight in his injury, so this coping mechanism can get in the bin. The only good news is that Eccles will be back soon, and it looks like we'll need him even more now.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Saturday at 5:14 PM
  • #41
I feel sorry for him on a human level but it’s not good enough. It’s not the first time and they aren’t massive impact injuries which can’t be helped.

Everyone needs a look at themselves and decides what’s best.
 

Mr Panda

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  • Saturday at 5:16 PM
  • #42
You have to feel for him when you see how upset he looked going down the tunnel. That position is an issue again if Jamie Allen is the only option
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Saturday at 5:18 PM
  • #43
Thought at the time it was a kick on his ankle, but this will put him out for weeks.
 

Major Tom

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  • Saturday at 5:30 PM
  • #44
skybluecam said:
He wasn’t made captain “again”. You keep the armband until it’s taken off you.
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So why wasn’t it taken off him then?
He couldn’t even start as club captain today.
Sorry, I don’t feel should be or is a captain on the pitch.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Saturday at 5:58 PM
  • #45
Major Tom said:
So why wasn’t it taken off him then?
He couldn’t even start as club captain today.
Sorry, I don’t feel should be or is a captain on the pitch.
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This is a niggle i have with FL as he has maintained what was a poor decision to make him captain.

Ofc taking away the armband wont be popular but Sheaf needs to live in the real world and understand whats best for himself and the club. 2 years ago he was talking about how he wanted to get in the england team which sounded delusional even then.

The guy is not captain material and if he is unable to play regularly for us he should be asking for it to be removed.

I thought it quite telling how Grimes spoke in his intervkew, he very much sounded like a leader and Sheaf "one of the players".
 
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clint van damme

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  • Saturday at 6:23 PM
  • #46
Ben Sheaf - shorthand for 'when the model doesn't work'.
 
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coop

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  • Saturday at 6:25 PM
  • #47
Do we all think sheaf wants to be injured 6 minutes into a season worked all pre season and all of a sudden gone in 6 minutes,like someone says maybe not warming up properly. But that is down to coaching staff.
 

skybluecam

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  • Saturday at 6:29 PM
  • #48
Major Tom said:
So why wasn’t it taken off him then?
He couldn’t even start as club captain today.
Sorry, I don’t feel should be or is a captain on the pitch.
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Players rarely get stripped of the captaincy without doing something properly wrong. You run the risk of creating a bigger problem than you had in the first place.
 
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ptr

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  • Saturday at 6:30 PM
  • #49
Interesting move to drop your captain on the opening day - even said that he was fine before the match. Obviously he was injured going off but he did not look happy.
 

chiefdave

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  • Saturday at 7:13 PM
  • #50
Diogenes said:
This is a niggle i have with FL as he has maintained what was a poor decision to make him captain.

Ofc taking away the armband wont be popular but Sheaf needs to live in the real world and understand whats best for himself and the club. 2 years ago he was talking about how he wanted to get in the england team which sounded delusional even then.

The guy is not captain material and if he is unable to play regularly for us he should be asking for it to be removed.

I thought it quite telling how Grimes spoke in his intervkew, he very much sounded like a leader and Sheaf "one of the players".
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Didn't we have a time when we had a club captain, and a team captain or something like that? So someone who represented the club but didn't always play, and the other the captain on the pitch.

This is exactly why I thought Grimes would be made captain this season. You want someone who is going to be playing week in week out. It's ridiculous when we keep changing captain mid-game because of substitutions.
 
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SkyblueTexan

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  • Saturday at 7:28 PM
  • #51
oscillatewildly said:
They shoot horses don’t they?
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Don’t have to shoot him. Just release him and save his wages.
 

Domo

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  • Saturday at 8:21 PM
  • #52
Major Tom said:
Made captain again too. He isn’t and never was a captain on the pitch, too passive. He most probably gets it as professional off the pitch.
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interesting to see that kitching is 2nd captain over grimes..
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Saturday at 8:35 PM
  • #53
Domo said:
interesting to see that kitching is 2nd captain over grimes..
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Why didn't Kitching get the armband back when Sheaf went off.

One game in and had three captains already.
 
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Domo

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  • Saturday at 8:41 PM
  • #54
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Why didn't Kitching get the armband back when Sheaf went off.

One game in and had three captains already.
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didnt even check who had it after sheaf, who got it next?
 

Shannerz

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  • Saturday at 8:44 PM
  • #55
Domo said:
didnt even check who had it after sheaf, who got it next?
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Allen.
 
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Hobo

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  • Saturday at 8:51 PM
  • #56
SkyblueTexan said:
Don’t have to shoot him. Just release him and save his wages.
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What wages would you save paying his contract up?
 
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Bigelvesy

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  • Saturday at 10:18 PM
  • #57
Domo said:
interesting to see that kitching is 2nd captain over grimes..
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I think Grimes is well down on the list. He’s been at the club for 8 months and we seem to take length of service as a big factor into captaincy.

I also dont really like the vibes that we’d hand him the armband over some of our own when he was Swansea’s captain not even a year ago.
He can still be a leader without the armband
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Saturday at 10:32 PM
  • #58
Hobo said:
What wages would you save paying his contract up?
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Maybe need to change his contract to pay as you play
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Saturday at 10:37 PM
  • #59
SkyblueTexan said:
Maybe need to change his contract to pay as you play
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What, mid contract?
 
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Ashdown

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  • Saturday at 11:08 PM
  • #60
Really feel for him, he obviously doesn’t want this constant hindrance. When he was good he was dynamic but the injuries have taken their toll and he looks like a guy always skating on thin ice now.
 
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SBbucks

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  • Sunday at 9:19 AM
  • #61
SkyblueTexan said:
Maybe need to change his contract to pay as you play
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You obviously don’t understand the meaning of the word “contract”.
 
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DT-R

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  • Sunday at 9:50 AM
  • #62
Domo said:
interesting to see that kitching is 2nd captain over grimes..
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He isn't. Allen is. Hench Allen took the armband yesterday rather than it go back to Kitching. Which suggests Kitching is 3rd choice behind Sheaf and Allen.

A captain nowadays is a pointless thing anyway I feel. It's a tradition, and usually given to a senior player, rather than an actual leader. Especially here atm. For seasons now, we've had captains that warm the bench. Kelly, Sheaf, Allen. It's pointless. Long gone are the days of an actual captain, on the pitch doing the managers job. They dont exist anymore. Your John Terry's, Roy Keanes, Tony Adams'. They're not around any more.
Look at the England team of past years, Wayne Rooney and Harry Kane as captains. Stalwarts and great players, yes. Natural born leaders and captains? Not in a million years!


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steve cooper

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  • Sunday at 9:57 AM
  • #63
DT-R said:
He isn't. Allen is. Hench Allen took the armband yesterday rather than it go back to Kitching. Which suggests Kitching is 3rd choice behind Sheaf and Allen.

A captain nowadays is a pointless thing anyway I feel. It's a tradition, and usually given to a senior player, rather than an actual leader. Especially here atm. For seasons now, we've had captains that warm the bench. Kelly, Sheaf, Allen. It's pointless. Long gone are the days of an actual captain, on the pitch doing the managers job. They dont exist anymore. Your John Terry's, Roy Keanes, Tony Adams'. They're not around any more.
Look at the England team of past years, Wayne Rooney and Harry Kane as captains. Stalwarts and great players, yes. Natural born leaders and captains? Not in a million years!


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It's mandatory to have a captain on the field during the game, and to be identified by the armband.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sunday at 11:08 AM
  • #64
DT-R said:
He isn't. Allen is. Hench Allen took the armband yesterday rather than it go back to Kitching. Which suggests Kitching is 3rd choice behind Sheaf and Allen.

A captain nowadays is a pointless thing anyway I feel. It's a tradition, and usually given to a senior player, rather than an actual leader. Especially here atm. For seasons now, we've had captains that warm the bench. Kelly, Sheaf, Allen. It's pointless. Long gone are the days of an actual captain, on the pitch doing the managers job. They dont exist anymore. Your John Terry's, Roy Keanes, Tony Adams'. They're not around any more.
Look at the England team of past years, Wayne Rooney and Harry Kane as captains. Stalwarts and great players, yes. Natural born leaders and captains? Not in a million years!


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A good captain done properly has a very important role. Anyone who has played football in even an amateur fashion should be able to recognise this. The best person for the job should have the armband, and this should be someone who can lead the team through difficult moments in matches, and orchestrate game management, as well as setting a professional standard and not being a pushover when the team is getting bullied/treated badly, either by the opposition or the referee. They need to be loud and respected.

This business of excusing the fact we have a poor captain is largely denial. You need someone who is a winner, and at present that isn't who we have. Grimes as captain would be the ideal candidate, has experience, and I think would make us overall better as a team.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sunday at 11:22 AM
  • #65
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Grimes as captain would be the ideal candidate, has experience, and I think would make us overall better as a team.
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Well he actually Sspends time on the pitch gor a start!
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Sunday at 11:40 AM
  • #66
My latest injury took this long... PB
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Sunday at 12:34 PM
  • #67
I worry that it’s it for him now and we’ve got a Dabo situation on our hands.
 

Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon

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  • Sunday at 12:52 PM
  • #68
I feel so sorry for him, probably the toughest time in a player's career is being injured as i can't imagine the physio is remotely pleasant on top of the frustration of not being involved. I get the frustration with his injury record but to read some of the posts on here you'd think he was doing it deliberately. I think fortunately for the club we probably have enough in central midfield to cope with his absence, fingers crossed the others can stay fit.
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Sunday at 1:09 PM
  • #69
SkyblueTexan said:
Maybe need to change his contract to pay as you play
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Ah, the mythical pay as you play contract surfaces again. There is no such thing mate.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sunday at 2:25 PM
  • #70
Speedies_Chips said:
Ah, the mythical pay as you play contract surfaces again. There is no such thing mate.
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Tell that to Andy Impey.
 
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