Grendel
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Would you have preferred Barton or baker in the starting line up?
Way too anti Barton for my liking. Thought he played a couple of intelligent balls today. Also got a bit more stuck in than he has in the past. Granted he wasn't brilliant, but he's not nearly as bad as you suggest.
Would you have preferred Barton or baker in the starting line up?
He over hit the pass, Barton proved today why he is useless in some game. It just wasn't his type of game, Preston were blood and thunder in your faces and Barton didn't want to know. Not sure why Robins played him, his heading is pitiful
I think you are dismissing Preston an looking through your sky blue glasses. They don't play a great style but they will give anyone a tough game an if you beat them it will be well earned hard fought win.
We were fortunate to draw
Would you have preferred Barton or baker in the starting line up?
Baker.
All day long.
Barton was in there because of his performance last week, which is a good thing for the manager to do as it encourages players to step up. But for me, Baker should have been back in on the right, and Moussa in the middle. We got found out today because of this.
He can. He applied himself well today. A 7 put of 10 performance.
Baker > Barton, but Barton > McSheffrey.
Baker Barton Moussa
Only player who deserves a 7 is Adams, rest of them, 5/6 max
Moussa would've been on the left with McSheffrey behind McG if Baker was brought straight back in.
Possibly, but not the way I think we should, or would have done it if Baker was straight back in. Sheffers provides more width and Moussa provides more bite in the middle.
Possibly, but not the way I think we should, or would have done it if Baker was straight back in. Sheffers provides more width and Moussa provides more bite in the middle.
Including the 2 centre halves? Thought they did well. Mcsheffrey was the pick of attacking midfielders. You agree surely?
But Taylor you said yourself you missed the first 30 mins, so you can only rate the performance on the 60 mins you actually saw not theme tire performance.
I've read the match report, so I can somewhat make a decision, after all, I can only judge what I can see, and that's what I've done.
You read the match report yet didn't know that sheff had actually provided the assist for Baileys goal, you said he 'nearly' set up a goal.
I can assure you today Barton was useless, his heading is far worse than just poor. Even for a big man if he can't header the ball his size alone should make him a problem for the opposition defence, it doesn't. He made about 5 passes the entire game today and that was all, no dribbles, no headers, no tackles, no shots, no crosses. We would have had more enjoy from Sheff playing centrally and lumping the balls into the channels for him to chaseI'm not dismissing them, a draw was fair, we played poorly.
Barton isn't useless, sure he wasn't great, but who was? The midfield, on the whole wasn't great, Jennings is the only man I can say 'fair play, you did your job', Bailey was decent at defending but going forward, didn't play as well as he can - he got the goal, fair play, but still can do a lot better. His heading is poor, but our long balls were poor whoever they went to, Sheff wouldn't have done better in that department, none of them would've. Our heading is poor as a team bar our CBs. Also, he didn't get much time on the ball, unfortunately.
I read it after that comment. In fairness.
Seems people forgot that Barton made some early contributions as well
"Preston produced the first threat, Joe Murphy scrambling to parry Lee Holmes’s skidding 25-yarder, but City responded with Barton twice prominent. His superb pass inside the full-back saw Gary McSheffrey fire over a low cross that just evaded David McGoldrick and the Sky Blues were again denied by inches when Blair Adams’s shot almost fell perfectly for Barton just outside the six-yard box."
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No we didn't forget that, two nice passes and 1 side in to try and get on the end of Adams shot was pretty much his entire contribution in the match. He Is a luxury player in a physical match like today's.
He had a bad day, like the rest of the team, even McG was pretty shit.
Give 'em a break, Barton is a good player, good enough to start for CCFC.
It is easy to pick out Barton, he is talented, and will be a great signing.
Today wasn't the right type of game for him, Robins knew what to expect from Preston so he is at fault for selecting himHe had a bad day, like the rest of the team, even McG was pretty shit.
Give 'em a break, Barton is a good player, good enough to start for CCFC.
It is easy to pick out Barton, he is talented, and will be a great signing.
I can assure you today Barton was useless, his heading is far worse than just poor. Even for a big man if he can't header the ball his size alone should make him a problem for the opposition defence, it doesn't. He made about 5 passes the entire game today and that was all, no dribbles, no headers, no tackles, no shots, no crosses. We would have had more enjoy from Sheff playing centrally and lumping the balls into the channels for him to chase
I'm not sure what Robins was trying with Barton but it clearly didn't work
Today wasn't the right type of game for him, Robins knew what to expect from Preston so he is at fault for selecting him
But you are so anti sheffers that you can't admit that he was our most attacking threat today, however that is probably understandable ad you missed the first 30 mins.
Barton has potential but at the moment he is not good enough to command a place in the starting line up, and will be back on the bench Boxing Day.
At least they would put the opposition defender under pressureWho's heading was good today? McSheffrey, wasn't too long ago when everyone was saying he's the worst header of the ball, Baker is shit at heading, so is Moussa, tell me, who is good at heading in our team, who'd fit in that role!?
Barton isn't meant to be a Clive Platt, his size is irrelevant, he likes to get the ball on deck and pass it, he didn't have many chances to do so.
He wasn't the only under performer out there.
Preston wouldn't have allowed us to, we underperformed only because Preston made us. They made the game scrappy and dragged us down to there level of football, it wasn't the right game for Barton.We under performed, on our day, he and the others would've passed that team to death and we would've stuck 3-4 past them.
At least they would put the opposition defender under pressure
Barton either stands and watches the opposition head it away under no pressure, if he does challenge for it he will jump 5 minutes too early and the ball will be arriving when he is touching the ground as he reaches the ground he will bend his knees so he actually ends up lower than his standing height when the ball arrives
Yes size is irrelevant if you are Barton because he doesn't know how to use or apply his size, a major flaw in his game. Even the silky players who are big know how to handle themselves physically like Ibrahimovic
I agree about the point he didn't have a chance to pass the ball, read above comment about the game not being right for him
So you are saying to compete physically you need to be a top 3 striker, thats nonsense even for you. Also do you just dismiss every point you disagree with as irrelevant?I'm sorry, but did you see the times we lumped it to the wings, Christie and Moussa didn't even challenge their lad therein at least 2 occasions in approx 5 m! You're not talking sense, no one, no where challenged them in the air, McG? No, Moussa? No, Christie? No, McSheffrey? No, Adams? No, Barton? No. I rest my case for that point.
Your point about Ibba is completely irrelevant, Ibba is a top 3 best striker in the world, he needs to be complete, and he's a striker, he needs, somewhat, to be good at heading! Barton plays in L1, and isn't a striker, is a midfielder who doesn't need to use his size because his game is to play football, not hoofball.
I read the comment, I disagree with it, I'm saying, if we had a good day, Barton, Moussa, McSheff, Bailey and co. would've passed PNE to death and we would've stuck 3-4 past them, I'm saying the team, as a whole, played shit and we couldn't bring players like McG and Barton into the game, not because PNE wasn't the right game for us, or more specifically, Barton, we just had an off day and they exploited that,
I agree with the first point, if we were able to pass Barton could have made a difference, the way we played didn't help Barton but I think it was more Preston forcing us to play that way. Not so sure about point 2If we had played a passing Barton would have made a difference but we didn't
Still think we can assert a passing game vs them in the jpt
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