I am a bit astounded that anyone would see us go back to the dark old days of wasting money, especially with how well things have been going in the last couple of seasons. Its like we learned nothing.
And then to rock up saying "they should reduce ticket prices" at the same time as "they should spend more money"- crazy talk
But nobody has suggested that we do. The only suggestion is that we could maybe be a little bolder in this particular window given the circumstances.
"Cry wanking over Wasps" - a typical response. They did what many want on here - massively reduced prices which then sets the benchmark - at Wycombe thy could and did charge over £30 a game.
I am sure you could charge a fiver and lose money every week with 25,000 in the ground - then when you increase the prices they just don't come again
We haven't been away for years - its two and one of them was behind closed doors.
The price for many games at £20 is very good value for money
I was feeling quite calm until I read this.Bright is our marquee signing.
mean your not buying a season ticket then ?You may well be right about MR's approach to big names.
Does this
mean your not buying a season ticket then ?
No I dont mean that I just mean I want to move forward to the first game of the seasonYou'd like to start the season with our current defense?
"Cry wanking over Wasps" - a typical response. They did what many want on here - massively reduced prices which then sets the benchmark - at Wycombe thy could and did charge over £30 a game.
I am sure you could charge a fiver and lose money every week with 25,000 in the ground - then when you increase the prices they just don't come again
We haven't been away for years - its two and one of them was behind closed doors.
The price for many games at £20 is very good value for money
I think the match day prices are on the high side but agree with you about cheapening the brand.
Look at the much lauded Bradford City who sold lots of very cheap tickets to inflate their average gate, sat in the bottom half of League 2 now.
I'd love to see Ostigard back, but wouldn't that still leave us with the same leaky defence playing In front of a dodgy keeper?We would all be delighted if Ostigard returned, feel good factor would surge but we wouldn't sell one extra season ticket on the back of it.
It's all about the match day ticket prices, and their too much
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Two years is years G. The clue is in the word years.
You’re banging on about price but I don’t believe I mentioned price in the post you’re responding to. Wasps put on travel, put on community days, tried to make match days a bit of an occasion (the much maligned flags, etc), advertised all over, sent out tickets to schools.
I also mentioned MK Dons, they did similar when they moved to build their crowds.
Don't necessarily agree with that. I saw Walker as a marquee signing last season and that wasn't astronomical.You didn't, I never said you did.
The point was marquee signings come with marquee sized demands.
Don't necessarily agree with that. I saw Walker as a marquee signing last season and that wasn't astronomical.
Admittedly we've spent a similar sum on Gyokeres this summer but he didn't pull up trees when here even if he does have the potential to.
I think a lot of us just want that one player through the door that makes you go wow and really look forward to seeing them in action and it just doesn't seem to have come off this summer.
I don't think our club has ever done enough on this.
I would want them to marketing really aggressively and doing all they can to improve the match day experience.
It doesn’t need to. The club do do community work and some free school offerings but the fact is if we were in the top 6 of the championship crowds would come in anyway and they’d pay. Wasps could be top of their league and still they’d be struggling to half fill the ground
Two years is years G. The clue is in the word years.
You’re banging on about price but I don’t believe I mentioned price in the post you’re responding to. Wasps put on travel, put on community days, tried to make match days a bit of an occasion (the much maligned flags, etc), advertised all over, sent out tickets to schools.
I also mentioned MK Dons, they did similar when they moved to build their crowds.
Im not sure how charging the same as equivalent entertainment options is “cheapening the brand”. We aren’t selling fucking designer clothing.
I do think we should be doing far more to get the players in schools though and focus heavily on this demographic. If they convince the kids to come then their friends, parents, wider relatives will come also. It's a pretty simple tactic and something the club haven't been great at in the past.
I don't think our club has ever done enough on this.
I would want them to marketing really aggressively and doing all they can to improve the match day experience.
Whilst I do agree I think the club probably should do more to put themselves out there I don't think they necessarily need to replicate Wasps' marketing spend as the club's strategy will be different as will be their end goal. For Wasps it was about establishing their brand but it failed miserably. One of the reasons behind this is my view was that they totally devalued their product by constantly giving away free tickets. So, I'd really rather not do that as it doesn't work.
I do think we should be doing far more to get the players in schools though and focus heavily on this demographic. If they convince the kids to come then their friends, parents, wider relatives will come also. It's a pretty simple tactic and something the club haven't been great at in the past.
They definitely should do more to increase the match day experience and make the day more interactive for fans.
"marketing", "strategy", "end goal", "establishing the brand", devalued the product", "demographic", "tactic", "matchday experience", "interactive"
Get the team winning and you can forget all your buzzwords and business school jargon, it will not be needed.
Look at wasps and what they do on a match day and yet they still have to give away free tickets to get people inSorry but this is nonsense- the only "matchday experience" that people ultimately care about is the feeling of walking out the ground having seen us win, and even better win well.
You can do anything you want and nothing will ever work if you're not winning, if you're winning you don't need to bother with too much else.
I think he’s suggesting how we could get more fans for where we’re likely to be, bottom half.
Sorry but this is nonsense- the only "matchday experience" that people ultimately care about is the feeling of walking out the ground having seen us win, and even better win well.
You can do anything you want and nothing will ever work if you're not winning, if you're winning you don't need to bother with too much else.
None of it would make a blind bit of difference. Unless they chop prices at the knee (and even then there is no guarantee), it would be a huge waste of money. Interest is generated on the pitch, you can't force people.
How many times have we seen it where the city is blitzed with info about an upcoming match where there are special deals, 25k+ show up and we invariably lose. All the goodwill was lost and the next game there were 10k less in the ground. Ultimately our "product" is a football team, thats what sells. What MR has done in terms of creating goodwill and interest is more than any amount of marketing could do. If there is spare money then it needs to go on players, not entertainment, thats what will get people back. And it appears we have very little money, so why we'd divert what we do have onto marketing schemes when its whats on the pitch that attracts and retains "customers"- beyond me. If you're rolling in money- fine, have a few buses going around giving out pamphlets, until that time it would be a waste.
And yet people go to the pub beforehand, buy a programme, have a pie, go to the club shop, go to the casino afterwards. And they do these things because they enjoy them, win lose or draw because it is part on the match day experience. And that's just those who don't buy hospitality packages, which by the way, shouldn't sell at all by your reasoning. It is you that is talking nonsense pal.
Lots more could be done, especially to cater for the kids.
"marketing", "strategy", "end goal", "establishing the brand", devalued the product", "demographic", "tactic", "matchday experience", "interactive"
Get the team winning and you can forget all your buzzwords and business school jargon, it will not be needed. How far have Wasps got with their "matchday experience" tactics and their endless assault on the city to try and attract fans in?
It’s not worth the club having a marketing team or community team then in your opinion?
Those people are going to the match anyway?
You make it sound like we need to drag people out of pubs & attempt to convince people buying programmes to buy a match ticket- those people are going to the match anyway?
Of course it is- but anyone in marketing will know that without the right product you can do what you want and it won't work. Pointless. They need something to sell and market. Spending money on marketing when you're performing badly is a total waste of money, money which we don't have. And according to this board at least we're heading for a relegation dogfight & we lack decent signings, so why would you spend big money now on marketing?
Yes, and the more the match day experience is improved, the more people will be 'going to the match anyway'. Can you honestly not grasp that?
We’re not performing badly, that’s the point. You seem to think the only way to possibly attract new fans or more regular fans is to win every game.
I think we've done really well to retain the likes of Hamer, O'hare and Dabo.Don't necessarily agree with that. I saw Walker as a marquee signing last season and that wasn't astronomical.
Admittedly we've spent a similar sum on Gyokeres this summer but he didn't pull up trees when here even if he does have the potential to.
I think a lot of us just want that one player through the door that makes you go wow and really look forward to seeing them in action and it just doesn't seem to have come off this summer.
I think we've done really well to retain the likes of Hamer, O'hare and Dabo.
Or maybe no one was interested
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