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Millwall Match Thread 29th December. (1 Viewer)

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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,086
Liquid Gold said:
We're just not playing at all well at the moment and haven't been for a good while. We're so toothless in the final third I just don't get excited seeing us go forward.

This season is fast becoming a tedious limp to the finish with no chance of challenging and no danger of going down.
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I'd say in general we've been wasteful in the final third rather than toothless but last night we really were toothless against a poor Millwall side which is worrying.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,087
clint van damme said:
I'd say in general we've been wasteful in the final third rather than toothless but last night we really were toothless against a poor Millwall side which is worrying.
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17 of 29 goals have been scored by two players. The whole of the midfield have 3 between them.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,088
fernandopartridge said:
He's been as usual the only player in the team who looks capable of producing anything
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I wonder if cc84 is actually brummie Nick on the phone I’m as they seem similar in their levels of football knowledge and indeed agree on a lot of things
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,089
clint van damme said:
I'd say in general we've been wasteful in the final third rather than toothless but last night we really were toothless against a poor Millwall side which is worrying.
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I think we have been wasteful but we're steadily progressing to toothless. We're on a worrying trajectory.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,090
Liquid Gold said:
I think we have been wasteful but we're steadily progressing to toothless. We're on a worrying trajectory.
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Birmingham and Huddersfield it was carving them open and wasting chances. Last night positions were wasted and no real chances were made.

The squad needs help, it’s pretty clear. I’ll ask a slightly differently phrased ownership question at the end of this season-somehow I doubt we’ll get less than half wanting them gone
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,091
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Birmingham and Huddersfield it was carving them open and wasting chances. Last night positions were wasted and no real chances were made.

The squad needs help, it’s pretty clear. I’ll ask a slightly differently phrased ownership question at the end of this season-somehow I doubt we’ll get less than half wanting them gone
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Although we clearly need better owners at this level I don't think it's entirely up to them.

Joy didn't force us to go into a season with three right backs, one left back and Bright as back up to O'Hare.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,092
Other than the strikers and Fadz, I don´t really feel confident that anyone else in the team can score a goal. The midfield do not chip in anywhere near enough.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,093
Liquid Gold said:
Although we clearly need better owners at this level I don't think it's entirely up to them.

Joy didn't force us to go into a season with three right backs, one left back and Bright as back up to O'Hare.
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The squad had too many places that needed improvement to be sorted in one window. Signing Bright was stupid and I said as much at the time.

Still if we had an expenditure comparable to clubs with similar crowds we wouldn’t be scraping the barrel for shit like him in the first place.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,094
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Other than the strikers and Fadz, I don´t really feel confident that anyone else in the team can score a goal. The midfield do not chip in anywhere near enough.
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When Hamer wasn’t terrified of shooting he was a real threat. Unfortunately he’s clearly been told to rein it in unless there’s something else going on
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,095
Liquid Gold said:
Although we clearly need better owners at this level I don't think it's entirely up to them.

Joy didn't force us to go into a season with three right backs, one left back and Bright as back up to O'Hare.
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budgetary constraints could well have dictated why Robins took a punt on Bright though, one that predictably went badly wrong.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,096
AOM said:
Walker wasn't amazing, but the lazy labels were back out again tonight which is harsh.
He's clearly trying to work harder and looked battered at the end. Lacking sharpness and offered (slightly) more than Godden, but don't think he'll ever win some over
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Bloke sitting in front of me threw his arms in the air every time the ball went near him, then when he went down injured shouted at him to get up.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,097
clint van damme said:
budgetary constraints could well have dictated why Robins took a punt on Bright though, one that predictably went badly wrong.
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That really was back to the days of signing Stephen Hunt and pretending he was the same player who played for reading years before​
 

Jamesimus

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,098
Grendel said:
I wonder if cc84 is actually brummie Nick on the phone I’m as they seem similar in their levels of football knowledge and indeed agree on a lot of things
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There is absolutely no way cc84 would be able to correctly input that phone number.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,099
Grendel said:
17 of 29 goals have been scored by two players. The whole of the midfield have 3 between them.
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but we've been creating chances, last night was just abject, maybe the amount we're missing is playing on players minds. It obviously needs addressing before we play again.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,100
Grendel said:
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That really was back to the days of signing Stephen Hunt and pretending he was the same player who played for reading years before​
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I compare it more to Peter Ramage. What a talent in his day.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,101
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Other than the strikers and Fadz, I don´t really feel confident that anyone else in the team can score a goal. The midfield do not chip in anywhere near enough.
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Agree - you can't see Sheaf and Kelly ever scoring more than 3 between them and that's if they played every game (although Kelly has hit a few screamers last season). Hamer will score goals, but hasn't really got going this season. Think some of last night's problems stemmed from Walker/Godden not really looking like a partnership so far, plus the Sheaf/Kelly combination not being creative enough,
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,102
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Agree - you can't see Sheaf and Kelly ever scoring more than 3 between them and that's if they played every game (although Kelly has hit a few screamers last season). Hamer will score goals, but hasn't really got going this season. Think some of last night's problems stemmed from Walker/Godden not really looking like a partnership so far, plus the Sheaf/Kelly combination not being creative enough,
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Let’s be honest it’s Kelly that’s just not up to the required standard.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,103
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Agree - you can't see Sheaf and Kelly ever scoring more than 3 between them and that's if they played every game (although Kelly has hit a few screamers last season). Hamer will score goals, but hasn't really got going this season. Think some of last night's problems stemmed from Walker/Godden not really looking like a partnership so far, plus the Sheaf/Kelly combination not being creative enough,
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For me it’s got to be Allen who comes in for Hamer. Big drop in quality but that’s true across the team.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,104
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That goal was comical as many of the ones we concede tend to be. I did like seeing the CBs carry the ball forward, they gained 10-20 yards a fair number of times.

What has concerned me most though is the tempo has just disappeared. Slow build up is fine but it gives the opposition time to organise and sit in front of you when you need real quality to unpick them. Get the ball moving more quickly and we can cause problems with numbers instead.
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The tempo disappears with Kelly in the side, he's in decline as a player as what he lacked in quality he made up for in his engine, not sure if his previous COVID infection has affected him but he's way off the pace.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,105
fernandopartridge said:
The tempo disappears with Kelly in the side, he's in decline as a player as what he lacked in quality he made up for in his engine, not sure if his previous COVID infection has affected him but he's way off the pace.
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It’s not nice to watch really.
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,106
Johnnythespider said:
Bloke sitting in front of me threw his arms in the air every time the ball went near him, then when he went down injured shouted at him to get up.
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Were you in Block 22 by any chance? Bloke behind me criticised Walker all game. Godden flicked a ball on which went nowhere near Walker. Said bloke accused Walker of not standing in the right place! On another occasion he accused him of not running fast enough!
 

SBAndy

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,107
fernandopartridge said:
The tempo disappears with Kelly in the side, he's in decline as a player as what he lacked in quality he made up for in his engine, not sure if his previous COVID infection has affected him but he's way off the pace.
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It was painful. Nowhere near the technical requirements of even a mid-table Championship side.
 
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Frostie

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,108
Speedies_Chips said:
Were you in Block 22 by any chance? Bloke behind me criticised Walker all game. Godden flicked a ball on which went nowhere near Walker. Said bloke accused Walker of not standing in the right place! On another occasion he accused him of not running fast enough!
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Sounds like the guy behind me in 19 too, sadly it seems there's a few of them. Was nice to hear another chap call him out for "talking bollocks" though.
 
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Adge

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,109
Liquid Gold said:
We're just not playing at all well at the moment and haven't been for a good while. We're so toothless in the final third I just don't get excited seeing us go forward.

This season is fast becoming a tedious limp to the finish with no chance of challenging and no danger of going down.
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Which you and 99% of others would have accepted before a ball was kicked this season.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,110
Adge said:
Which you and 99% of others would have accepted before a ball was kicked this season.
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but that’s now irrelevant
 
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AOM

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,111
Johnnythespider said:
Bloke sitting in front of me threw his arms in the air every time the ball went near him, then when he went down injured shouted at him to get up.
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Similar near me too. I bloody love him but Godden seems to be exempt from any criticism when he makes similar errors, but people seem to wait for Walker to mess up.
Needs some more game time with Gyokeres/Waghorn to get some sharpness
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,112
Adge said:
Which you and 99% of others would have accepted before a ball was kicked this season.
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So relegation form for half a season is fine if you start the season well?

Circumstances can never alter expectations. Got it.
 
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Johnnythespider

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,113
Speedies_Chips said:
Were you in Block 22 by any chance? Bloke behind me criticised Walker all game. Godden flicked a ball on which went nowhere near Walker. Said bloke accused Walker of not standing in the right place! On another occasion he accused him of not running fast enough!
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Block 17, seems he's the whipping boy these days, I thought he did ok considering he was having to wrestle with his marker all night.
 
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Adge

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,114
Liquid Gold said:
So relegation form for half a season is fine if you start the season well?

Circumstances can never alter expectations. Got it.
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No, but you would have accepted it before the season began?
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,115
Adge said:
No, but you would have accepted it before the season began?
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I wouldn’t accept finishing well below teams like blackburn and Huddersfield no
 
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steve cooper

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  • Dec 30, 2021
  • #1,116
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s not nice to watch really.
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Milwal must of nown are team ad been decimated, utherwise we wud of wun
 

lordy_87

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #1,117
Anyone know what the gate was?
 

Sick Boy

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #1,118
clint van damme said:
budgetary constraints could well have dictated why Robins took a punt on Bright though, one that predictably went badly wrong.
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The overwhelming consensus on here was that it was a master stroke.
 

Nick

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #1,119
lordy_87 said:
Anyone know what the gate was?
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Strangely it popped up 18,500 on the screen and went off. I can't remember the announcer saying it like usual (unless I missed it).
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #1,120
Nick said:
Strangely it popped up 18,500 on the screen and went off. I can't remember the announcer saying it like usual (unless I missed it).
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It says 18,500 on the BBC report.

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