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Messi leaving Barca (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Aug 25, 2020
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Bugsy

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  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #71
PL is one of if not the most competitive league out there
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #72
Bugsy said:
PL is one of if not the most competitive league out there
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In the past two seasons the winners have amassed 199 points between them, that is about as uncompetitive as you can get.
 
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Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #73
Liquid Gold said:
In the past two seasons the winners have amassed 199 points between them, that is about as uncompetitive as you can get.
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Fair doos at the winners of the league but got to admit that champions league places Europa league places and the relegation places are competitive
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #74
Bugsy said:
Fair doos at the winners of the league but got to admit that champions league places Europa league places and the relegation places are competitive
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The relegation places are competitive in thee sense that the entire bottom half of the division is shit scared of getting relegated because they get pumped most weeks by super clubs.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #75
Liquid Gold said:
The relegation places are competitive in thee sense that the entire bottom half of the division is shit scared of getting relegated because they get pumped most weeks by super clubs.
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True lol, the top 6 to 8 will be more competitive this season I reckon thou.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #76
Bugsy said:
Fair doos at the winners of the league but got to admit that champions league places Europa league places and the relegation places are competitive
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By that measure the SPL is the best league around
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #77
Number of different teams who have won a title in the last 20 years:

La Liga: 4
Premier League: 6
 

Evo1883

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  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #78
Liquid Gold said:
In the past two seasons the winners have amassed 199 points between them, that is about as uncompetitive as you can get.
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This
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #79
mark82 said:
Number of different teams who have won a title in the last 20 years:

La Liga: 4
Premier League: 6
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It's only 2 seasons difference
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 31, 2020
  • #80
mark82 said:
Number of different teams who have won a title in the last 20 years:

La Liga: 4
Premier League: 6
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Do you really think that that's a better indicator of the strength of the respective league's than performances in the Champions league,Europa league and international competitions?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 1, 2020
  • #81
Bugsy said:
PL is one of if not the most competitive league out there
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Pffffft
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Sep 1, 2020
  • #82
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 1, 2020
  • #83
clint van damme said:
Do you really think that that's a better indicator of the strength of the respective league's than performances in the Champions league,Europa league and international competitions?
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I guess the argument had shifted to competitiveness.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 1, 2020
  • #84
Deleted member 5849 said:
I guess the argument had shifted to competitiveness.
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Which is why I think that Spain's 10 Europa league wins this century to England's 3 suggests the standard of the middle band of teams is higher.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 1, 2020
  • #85
Messi will absolutely ruin defenders in the premier league today, it will be a stroll in the park for him
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #86
clint van damme said:
Which is why I think that Spain's 10 Europa league wins this century to England's 3 suggests the standard of the middle band of teams is higher.
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Not sure. Think they've taken it more seriously. Don't think there's a huge amount in it to be honest. The new Champions League spot in the Europa League helps. But I think teams like Sevilla are slightly ahead of teams like Everton. The top of the Premier League is generally more competitive (this year aside). Again, it's the difference between being competitive and being better quality. Difference between bottom and top is slightly less in PL. Messi won't score here like he did in Spain IMO.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #87
mark82 said:
Not sure. Think they've taken it more seriously. Don't think there's a huge amount in it to be honest. The new Champions League spot in the Europa League helps. But I think teams like Sevilla are slightly ahead of teams like Everton. The top of the Premier League is generally more competitive (this year aside). Again, it's the difference between being competitive and being better quality. Difference between bottom and top is slightly less in PL. Messi won't score here like he did in Spain IMO.
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To be fair, he has 26 goals in 34 games against our top teams in the CL
This was sevilla against wolves, it's not even the amount of shots etc that struck me it was the possession.. I wonder how many times that happened to wolves in the prem last season
 
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clint van damme

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #88
Evo1883 said:
To be fair, he has 26 goals in 34 games against our top teams in the CL
This was sevilla against wolves, it's not even the amount of shots etc that struck me it was the possession.. I wonder how many times that happened to wolves in the prem last season View attachment 16777
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But those goals were against the likes of Man United and Chelsea.
Doesn't mean he'd score against Burnley and Villa!!
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #89
Messi now staying at Barcelona what a shock same boring rubbish every year from this man.
 
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Frostie

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #90
Frostie said:
The more I read about it the more I'm convinced it's just a power play & he'll stay at Barca.
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"Shock U-turn"
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #91
It’s pathetic really
 

Ian1779

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #92
Ronaldo is better anyway - smashed it in 3 leagues.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #93
Ian1779 said:
Ronaldo is better anyway - smashed it in 3 leagues.
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I think they are different players that offer similar results...
Messi is more naturally gifted and can do things with the ball Ronaldo could never, Ronaldo is a machine with pace, power and skill
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #94
Frostie said:

"Shock U-turn"
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Shocked I am lol
 

Frostie

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #95
Evo1883 said:
I think they are different players that offer similar results...
Messi is more naturally gifted and can do things with the ball Ronaldo could never, Ronaldo is a machine with pace, power and skill
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I'm not a fan of the incessant comparisons between the 2. I think we should all just be grateful to have lived in the era where 2 of the all time greats consistently perform to incredible levels.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #96
Evo1883 said:
I think they are different players that offer similar results...
Messi is more naturally gifted and can do things with the ball Ronaldo could never, Ronaldo is a machine with pace, power and skill
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I think if he wanted it Ronaldo could keep going into his 40s he's that much of a machine.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #97
In my opinion Maradona shits all over the pair of them put together.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #98
Was always going to happen. Little whingearse that wouldn't have the minerals to move out of his comfort zone
 
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Travs

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #99
Saddlebrains said:
Was always going to happen. Little whingearse that wouldn't have the minerals to move out of his comfort zone
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I understand the point people make about Ronaldo doing it in three major leagues... but i don't necessarily agree with it...

Do we denigrate the likes of Baresi and Maldini for being one-club men? No chance...
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #100
A shock Cruyff turn surely?
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #101
Travs said:
I understand the point people make about Ronaldo doing it in three major leagues... but i don't necessarily agree with it...

Do we denigrate the likes of Baresi and Maldini for being one-club men? No chance...
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I don’t think this is the same kind of comparison. Despite Baresi and Maldini being world-class players we aren’t talking about them being all time greatest. They were also defenders (not that their capability should be underestimated because of that) but it’s not comparative.

I think that Messi could hack it here in the PL - just wish we could see it happen.
 
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Travs

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  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #102
I'd certainly say Baresi was all-time greatest defender, along with Beckenbauer... Can't really compare positions... Obviously Messi/Ronaldo will be seen as bigger greats due to the position they play in, but the likes of Baresi were just as good in their position.

Whilst Messi would undoubtedly be one of the first names in my all time XI, I'd have Beckenbauer, Baresi and Matthaus as equally important.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 4, 2020
  • #103
Nick said:
Imagine having a clause where he can decide to leave if he wants.

That sort of shit is their problem, giving him too much power.
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Still giving him too much power, he was never going to leave.
 
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