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Skyblueweeman

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  • May 11, 2016
  • #1,366
Nick said:
Where else would the Madison money be?
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Joys pocket silly billy.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,367
That was the longest couple of weeks I have ever heard of
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,368
dongonzalos said:
That was the longest couple of weeks I have ever heard of
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Good job it wasn't three
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,369
Has everybody got the bubbly in ready?
 

oucho

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,370
Nick said:
Has everybody got the bubbly in ready?
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I genuinely did have a bottle of champers with the missus when the previous verdict was given....it'll be neat Scotch if SISU win this time....
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,371
oucho said:
I genuinely did have a bottle of champers with the missus when the previous verdict was given....it'll be neat Scotch if SISU win this time....
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Really?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,372
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Good job it wasn't three
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I thought the announcement wasn't coming until the new year
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,373
This is just if they are allowed to appeal isn't it? So just a simple yes or no.

If its yes then back to court with JR1, if its no SISU will start JR2.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,374
JR2: The Evil Empire Strike Back

chiefdave said:
This is just if they are allowed to appeal isn't it? So just a simple yes or no.

If its yes then back to court with JR1, if its no SISU will start JR2.
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,375
chiefdave said:
This is just if they are allowed to appeal isn't it? So just a simple yes or no.

If its yes then back to court with JR1, if its no SISU will start JR2.
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Isn't this the actual appeal?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,376
Nick said:
Isn't this the actual appeal?
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Is it? Maybe, I've lost track. So it will be SISU win, CCC appeal or CCC win, SISU start JR2 (or can they appeal this one again?).
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,377
chiefdave said:
Is it? Maybe, I've lost track. So it will be SISU win, CCC appeal or CCC win, SISU start JR2 (or can they appeal this one again?).
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I think either way there will be another appeal anyway.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,378
torchomatic said:
JR2: The Evil Empire Strike Back
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No no no. It's JR2, J Harder!
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,379
chiefdave said:
Is it? Maybe, I've lost track. So it will be SISU win, CCC appeal or CCC win, SISU start JR2 (or can they appeal this one again?).
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I think what ever happens Dave the only certainty is that this won't be the end of it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,380
I still think it should be sorted with a dance off, like films nowadays seem to suggest.

JS: Oh no you didn't, bitch:



Then PWKH steals it:

 

Hobo

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,381
It's JR3 I can't wait for
 
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armybike

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,382
High Court judgement in favour of CCC was in summer of 2014, SISU granted permission to appeal in summer 2015, appeal hearing was in February and result is due tomorrow - the result being which side will be contacting Supreme Court!

With the indication being that the government would have to foot the bill if SISU win, rather than CCC, it could even been the government going to the SC.
 

oucho

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,383
Nick said:
Really?
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Yep. I'd take a definitive council win ahead of promotion next season. Genuinely. Really want to see those hard-nosed bastards get their just desserts.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,384
oucho said:
Yep. I'd take a definitive council win ahead of promotion next season. Genuinely. Really want to see those hard-nosed bastards get their just desserts.
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Again, really? There was somebody else saying they were having bubbly as well, just having a look.

Maybe you are on the wrong forum?

Very strange, up there with people being fans of a stadium management company.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,385
Nick could you clarify what is your preferred result, and how that will impact CCFC going forward ?
 

torchomatic

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,386
oucho said:
Yep. I'd take a definitive council win ahead of promotion next season. Genuinely. Really want to see those hard-nosed bastards get their just desserts.
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Ffs. Unbelievable.

Sent from my SM-N910F using Tapatalk
 

chiefdave

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,387
shy_tall_knight said:
Nick could you clarify what is your preferred result, and how that will impact CCFC going forward ?
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Is there a preferred result? Even if this was the end of it does it make much difference either way?

CCC win - SISU stay in their current holding pattern attempting to run the club at break even indefinitely hoping to somehow get a return on their investment.

SISU win - they get their return on investment and walk away. Assuming somebody will take the club over they will still have the issue of limited revenues streams and no stadium ownership.
 

oucho

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,388
Nick said:
Again, really? There was somebody else saying they were having bubbly as well, just having a look.

Maybe you are on the wrong forum?

Very strange, up there with people being fans of a stadium management company.
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Let's be clear, just because I'm a CCFC fan doesn't mean I'm colour blind to right and wrong. I love my country but that doesn't mean I approve and support the government's actions with blind loyalty. You have to retain critical distance. The team has my loyalty but the club's owners do not. You can make the distinction.

SISU are not CCFC - this is a case between SISU and the council, not CCFC or ACL. I have no loyalty to either, but it's clear to all but the most one-eyed delusionists that SISU were mostly in the wrong. Even if they win, it will only be on a technicality. Their conduct during the dispute was absolutely abhorrent and made me ashamed to be a CCFC fan.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,389
chiefdave said:
Is there a preferred result? Even if this was the end of it does it make much difference either way?

CCC win - SISU stay in their current holding pattern attempting to run the club at break even indefinitely hoping to somehow get a return on their investment.

SISU win - they get their return on investment and walk away. Assuming somebody will take the club over they will still have the issue of limited revenues streams and no stadium ownership.
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If SISU loose would that not speed up their departure.

Also if SISU win is there any chance that it may lead to the WASPs ownership of ACL being challenged in court ?.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,390
oucho said:
Let's be clear, just because I'm a CCFC fan doesn't mean I'm colour blind to right and wrong. I love my country but that doesn't mean I approve and support the government's actions with blind loyalty. You have to retain critical distance. The team has my loyalty but the club's owners do not. You can make the distinction.

SISU are not CCFC - this is a case between SISU and the council, not CCFC or ACL. I have no loyalty to either, but it's clear to all but the most one-eyed delusionists that SISU were mostly in the wrong. Even if they win, it will only be on a technicality. Their conduct during the dispute was absolutely abhorrent and made me ashamed to be a CCFC fan.
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If SISU win, then it means the council have done wrong doesn;t it?

Whether SISU win or the Council win, I'd prefer Promotion every day to either of them. Like you say, my loyalty is with CCFC so I'd prefer good things to happen to them rather than a dodgy hedge fund or a just as dodgy council.

I certainly won't be celebrating either outcome, it's weird. Imagine if somebody said they are going to be raising a glass if SISU win? They would probably get labelled a one-eyed delusionist.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,391
oucho said:
Let's be clear, just because I'm a CCFC fan doesn't mean I'm colour blind to right and wrong. I love my country but that doesn't mean I approve and support the government's actions with blind loyalty. You have to retain critical distance. The team has my loyalty but the club's owners do not. You can make the distinction.

SISU are not CCFC - this is a case between SISU and the council, not CCFC or ACL. I have no loyalty to either, but it's clear to all but the most one-eyed delusionists that SISU were mostly in the wrong. Even if they win, it will only be on a technicality. Their conduct during the dispute was absolutely abhorrent and made me ashamed to be a CCFC fan.
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They won't win on a 'technicality' you dope - it's a fairly black and white judgment.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,392
shy_tall_knight said:
Nick could you clarify what is your preferred result, and how that will impact CCFC going forward ?
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My preferred result is the truth to be found, whatever the outcome.

If the council has done wrong, or if they haven't.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,393
Nick said:
If SISU win, then it means the council have done wrong doesn;t it?

Whether SISU win or the Council win, I'd prefer Promotion every day to either of them. Like you say, my loyalty is with CCFC so I'd prefer good things to happen to them rather than a dodgy hedge fund or a just as dodgy council.

I certainly won't be celebrating either outcome, it's weird. Imagine if somebody said they are going to be raising a glass if SISU win? They would probably get labelled a one-eyed delusionist.
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I disagreed with SISU's tactics (Northampton et al)

I am gutted by Wasps owning the stadium that CCFC should have (although I understand why the Council did what they did - just not happy that CCFC have suffered as a result).

With regards to the 'outcome' , I will happily have whatever decision ultimately allows the football club to progress (whether that is a SISU sale, or SISU redirecting its energies towards the club/team, rather than the courts).
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,394
"With regards to the 'outcome' , I will happily have whatever decision ultimately allows the football club to progress (whether that is a SISU sale, or SISU redirecting its energies towards the club/team, rather than the courts"

But that's my problem I don't think whichever result it is we as fans know if it will be a benefit to CCFC
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,395
Can anybody actually see SISU being given millions even if they win?
 

Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,396
chiefdave said:
Is there a preferred result? Even if this was the end of it does it make much difference either way?

CCC win - SISU stay in their current holding pattern attempting to run the club at break even indefinitely hoping to somehow get a return on their investment.

SISU win - they get their return on investment and walk away. Assuming somebody will take the club over they will still have the issue of limited revenues streams and no stadium ownership.
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SISU WIN - there's no guarantee they will get a return on there "investment" certainly not
at the inflated numbers they talk about.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,397
Is there other legal actions pending / outstanding regarding the sale of aCL to WASPS ?
 

Otis

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,398
Hobo said:
It's JR3 I can't wait for
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That one's going to be JR 3D.
 

Otis

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  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,399
Sky Blue Harry H said:
I disagreed with SISU's tactics (Northampton et al)

I am gutted by Wasps owning the stadium that CCFC should have (although I understand why the Council did what they did - just not happy that CCFC have suffered as a result).

With regards to the 'outcome' , I will happily have whatever decision ultimately allows the football club to progress (whether that is a SISU sale, or SISU redirecting its energies towards the club/team, rather than the courts).
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That's me too. Would like the best result for Coventry City. I do also want justice to be done though. If someone has done wrong they should be brought to book on it.

I want Sisu gone, but the council also didn't do us any favours at all did they!

Just want to see it put to bed and a line drawn under the whole sorry saga.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 12, 2016
  • #1,400
Otis said:
That's me too. Would like the best result for Coventry City. I do also want justice to be done though. If someone has done wrong they should be brought to book on it.

I want Sisu gone, but the council also didn't do us any favours at all did they!

Just want to see it put to bed and a line drawn under the whole sorry saga.
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That's the thing isn't it. Justice being done.

The best result would be the truth and justice wouldn't?

Without knowing the possible penalties / sisus plans based on either result we don't know which is best for the club?
 
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