Matty Grimes (2 Viewers)

[coop]

Very good player needs to be further up the pitch.He is sometimes so deep he's further back than Thomas and Kitchin.

 

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[Hullinho87]

Very good player needs to be further up the pitch.He is sometimes so deep he's further back than Thomas and Kitchin.

It’s a very easy statistic or data to check this. What you say here is very very rarely factual.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Does he?

With the high line we play wouldn't that indicate he's sat in the back line the majority of the time.

No issue with that as think the issue more comes from the other CM

 

[Hobo]

Very good player needs to be further up the pitch.He is sometimes so deep he's further back than Thomas and Kitchin.

He is very deep when we are playing out from the back because he likes all his passing options to be in front of him, where he can see them. Gary McAllister was the same.

But as we progress up the pitch so does Grimes, he plays a lot of ball into the box.

 

[Hullinho87]

With the high line we play wouldn't that indicate he's sat in the back line the majority of the time.

No issue with that as think the issue more comes from the other CM

Not when you see the Thomas and Kitching average positions. They are on average deeper than Grimes starting position. Grimes’ heatmap is virtually the same as any other DM you can find.

As you say, a DM receiving the ball from the CB’s isn’t a bad thing whatsoever, what is though is an inconsistent variation of options ahead of him.
That’s the issue, not what Grimes is doing.

 

[shmmeee]

Does he?

I mean that looks like a CBs heat ma so…yeah?

 

[shmmeee]

Not when you see the Thomas and Kitching average positions. They are on average deeper than Grimes starting position. Grimes’ heatmap is virtually the same as any other DM you can find.

As you say, a DM receiving the ball from the CB’s isn’t a bad thing whatsoever, what is though is an inconsistent variation of options ahead of him.
That’s the issue, not what Grimes is doing.

Do you watch us?

 

[shmmeee]

He is very deep when we are playing out from the back because he likes all his passing options to be in front of him, where he can see them. Gary McAllister was the same.

But as we progress up the pitch so does Grimes, he plays a lot of ball into the box.

McAllister played a lot further forward than Grimes does

 

[Hullinho87]

Do you watch us?

Yes and I can hand on heart, with all confidence and due respect to you, say that Grimes is in now way whatsoever a problem or an issue for us … in fact, the polar opposite.

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

Grimes is so deep , he's obviously playing to orders because our centre backs need help. Buy a better one and it would release him a bit.
He's our best player.

 

[Hobo]

McAllister played a lot further forward than Grimes does

Not when playing out from the back, he used to sit very deep for us. Both move up the pitch as the team progresses. The same as Jonathan Hogg at Huddersfield and going back a few years he was one of the best midfielders in the Championship for finding pockets of space and distributing the ball.

 

[shmmeee]

Not when playing out from the back, he used to sit very deep for us. Both move up the pitch as the team progresses. The same as Jonathan Hogg at Huddersfield and going back a few years he was one of the best midfielders in the Championship for finding pockets of space and distributing the ball.

When we’re up the pitch he’s still at the back as the heat map showed he spends the vast majority of his time in one of the three CB positions.

 

[Captain Dart]

He plays as a third CB really in many ways and it means we need more from the Sheaf/Torp role and Rudoni through the middle.

I saw him close the Hull defence or midfield down plenty of times in their half.