Matty Godden Injury (1 Viewer)

no_loyalty · Oct 21, 2019

Yhe options facing Coventry City top scorer after old injury flares up

Really hope he is not out for too long.

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 21, 2019

no_loyalty said:
Yhe options facing Coventry City top scorer after old injury flares up

Really hope he is not out for too long.

Another player signed with a known injury problem. Hard to understand why we weren't looking at things like this before.

Esoterica · Oct 21, 2019

It's frustrating but we can't not sign someone when they've passed a medical because they had a groin operation 9 years ago, can we?

better days · Oct 21, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Another player signed with a known injury problem. Hard to understand why we weren't looking at things like this before.

Tbh there aren't many 28 year old footballers who haven't had some kind of injury in the past

Brighton Sky Blue · Oct 21, 2019

better days said:
Tbh there aren't many 28 year old footballers who haven't had some kind of injury in the past

This is a chronic problem

ExmouthNeil · Oct 21, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is a chronic problem

What... It's Weed related???????

Sky Blue Pete · Oct 21, 2019

Oh dear

robbiekeane · Oct 21, 2019

minus the computer breaking auto run ads and videos

cc84cov · Oct 21, 2019

Doesn’t sound great

sw88 · Oct 21, 2019

Esoterica said:
It's frustrating but we can't not sign someone when they've passed a medical because they had a groin operation 9 years ago, can we?

true, but it sounds like it’s something that has been niggling him for a while and was known about. Seems he was trying to medicate rather than treat it for some time?

robbiekeane · Oct 21, 2019

whack him full of morphine until the end of the season FM style

Gazolba · Oct 21, 2019

Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

cc84cov · Oct 21, 2019

Gazolba said:
Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

Rather ponti the Baka

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 21, 2019

Gazolba said:
Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

It really can't do any harm. He's not playing there either and here at least he'd be getting game time in U23's if MR doesn't think he fits - Tranmere don't have a reserves.

We have good possession and lots of chances. The thing we seem to lack is someone who puts chances in the back of the net. He has done that on a regular basis during his time here at various levels. Whatever his other limitations if he's in the box and putting away those chances he'd be adding to the team. Only way he could show if he could do that is to be on the pitch. Everyone else ahead of him in the pecking order (apart from maybe Biamou due to injury) has had an opportunity to take on the mantle and not stepped up.

oscillatewildly · Oct 21, 2019

Gazolba said:
Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

None from me - options fast running out.

CanadianCCFC · Oct 21, 2019

Gazolba said:
Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

At this point he and Bremang have to be in the picture.

fatso · Oct 22, 2019

Gazolba said:
Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

Forget it guys, he's a natural goal scorer, so there is absolutely no fucking chance of him getting game time here!

ccfc1234 · Oct 22, 2019

If a player who can't get into the Tranmere team and has shown next to nothing in 1st team mens football is the answer. The question is totally the wrong one. Especially if we want to be top 6.

skyblueelephant76 · Oct 22, 2019

Gazolba said:
Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

He can't be recalled until January when hopefully we can try and get someone better anyway.

Nick · Oct 22, 2019

Gazolba said:
Maybe time to recall Ponticelli from Tranmere?
I'm now awaiting the abuse over this intrepid suggesrtion.

The obsession is madness.

Have you ever seen him play?

Sky Blue Harry H · Oct 22, 2019

Nick said:
The obsession is madness.

Have you ever seen him play?

The only thing I would say Nick *assuming Godden is out for a while). is we have Baka and Hiwula (with Max still getting match fit( then Bremang. We are one more injury/suspension away from cupboard bare, so having Ponticelli at least getting fit in the U23s (if he isn't getting match practice up there) as a precaution. if we can get him to shed a bit of timber there is/was a finisher there, even if his game needs to develop.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Oct 22, 2019

Nick said:
The obsession is madness.

Have you ever seen him play?

He might be unproven but our current attacking options have been proven. Proven at being utterly shit.

I don't for one minute think he is the answer, but when there is a recall option I don't think it would do any harm.

skyblueelephant76 · Oct 22, 2019

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
He might be unproven but our current attacking options have been proven. Proven at being utterly shit.

I don't for one minute think he is the answer, but when there is a recall option I don't think it would do any harm.

There is no recall option.

Sky_Blue_Ste · Oct 22, 2019

I’ve read reports of quotes from MR saying that he’s already looking for a Baka replacement to play with Godden in the January window. Might just be psychological to get one of the others firing etc.

Basically said that Baka has all the parts & attributes needed but isn’t putting it together & needs to be more aggressive & when defenders occupy his space, he needs to find more space etc.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Oct 22, 2019

skyblueelephant76 said:
There is no recall option.

I was referring to January.

ccfchoi87 · Oct 22, 2019

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
He might be unproven but our current attacking options have been proven. Proven at being utterly shit.

I don't for one minute think he is the answer, but when there is a recall option I don't think it would do any harm.

Both Godden and Hiwula got 14 goals last year.

cc84cov · Oct 22, 2019

ccfchoi87 said:
Both Godden and Hiwula got 14 goals last year.

Maybe play them upfront together then

Nick · Oct 22, 2019

cc84cov said:
Maybe play them upfront together then

It's much easier to stick one out wide.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 22, 2019

ccfc1234 said:
If a player who can't get into the Tranmere team and has shown next to nothing in 1st team mens football is the answer. The question is totally the wrong one. Especially if we want to be top 6.

In 2017/18 (last time he was fit) he was our joint fourth highest scorer, despite playing way fewer minutes than everyone else.

In terms of goal per minutes that season he was our best performing striker, including McNulty.

He's worth a try given how everyone else has done.

Grendel · Oct 22, 2019

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
In 2017/18 (last time he was fit) he was our joint fourth highest scorer, despite playing way fewer minutes than everyone else.

In terms of goal per minutes that season he was our best performing striker, including McNulty.

Thanks for finally admitting that stat means fuck all

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 22, 2019

Grendel said:
Thanks for finally admitting that stat means fuck all

It doesn't mean fuck all. It just shouldn't be used in isolation. Which I haven't done.

cc84cov · Oct 22, 2019

If Godden is injured we are fucked

Grendel · Oct 22, 2019

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It doesn't mean fuck all. It just shouldn't be used in isolation. Which I haven't done.

It does mean fuck all

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Oct 22, 2019

Robins has deemed Ponticelli not at the right level. Tranmeres manager evidentially agrees. Most people who have seen him play also agree he wasn’t up to the level. But a few still hold onto a quote from god knows where about ‘he’s the best natural finisher in the history of world football’. Get over it lads, he’s not the messiah.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 22, 2019

Grendel said:
It does mean fuck all

Any stat in isolation is worth fuck all. You could say a striker has scored 100 career goals - looks quite good. But depends on how many matches he's played. What level he's scored them at. If he's played over 1000 games at L2 level it's less impressive.

Same with minutes per goal. Taken in isolation it can be meaningless, like with Mick Harford. However, in conjunction with other stats to provide context it adds to the analysis. For example, with Ponti if you say he scored 6 in 26 appearances that season it doesn't look great. Add in the goals per minute stat because a large proportion of those appearances were as a sub and it adds context and shows the basic stats to be skewed.

The more info you have the better the analysis. Like how many minutes did he play? Were they as a starter or as a sub? Were they 20 minute appearances or two minutes in injury time? How many different games did he score in? What was his shot conversion rate?

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