Balli001
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But if we sold all season tickets and hardly any on the day tickets then we are at a much lower gate revenue to most other championship sides at the top end of the table.
But if we sold all season tickets and hardly any on the day tickets then we are at a much lower gate revenue to most other championship sides at the top end of the table.On the other hand you could argue this is temporary and the club doesn’t have a moral obligation to expand capacity in the good times, but instead to maximise the return of those good times to see them through the lean times.
Support scales with success generally (unless you’re Sunderland), if the club remains at or above this level so will its support, as we saw in L2 if it doesn’t then the community won’t hang about. So arguably maintaining success is the only way to maintain community. We can’t fit more than 30k home fans in, and once you hit that point what’s best for the club if not to maximise earnings while it’s good?
Problem with that is there’s no season tickets available to buy since this was announced.
Problem with that is there’s no season tickets available to buy since this was announced.
They had around 18k season ticket holders, 2k away fans. They sell more single tickets than we do.Our average attendance last season was only 2k more than West brom. Hardly much higher.
But it doesn’t just impact 3,000 Cov fans does it. It impacts perhaps between 20,000-60,000 Cov fans who went to matches as and when they could get to them or simply afford them . The club has a database of over 250,000 so those figures could be higher.Seems like a storm in a teapot to be honest because it only impacts about 6k supports split roughly evenly between the away supporters and Cov walk ups. I have a bit more empathy for away supporters because they don’t get to choose to get a ST or not.
Our ST prices remain v cheap, and that’s the litmus test of affordability. For the walk ups, there’ll be a handful games where the category is A+, probably Birmingham, Leicester, Swansea (Boxing Day), Ipswich and Wrexham (final home game). If these ‘rip off’ prices subsidise the ST prices, I’m all for it.
Seen the comments praises WBAs pricing structure, an adult ST at WBA is £100 more expensive than our standard ST price (in 2 stands) and £40 above our ‘premium’ seating. As a STH, I’d much rather have our deal than theirs.
But it doesn’t just impact 3,000 Cov fans does it. It impacts perhaps between 20,000-60,000 Cov fans who went to matches as and when they could get to them or simply afford them . The club has a database of over 250,000 so those figures could be higher.
Lets just hope there are only a very few cat a + matches and it balances itself out.
It won't include many children I hope!Would love to know how many different individuals actually make up the home gates through the course of season.
But it doesn’t just impact 3,000 Cov fans does it. It impacts perhaps between 20,000-60,000 Cov fans who went to matches as and when they could get to them or simply afford them . The club has a database of over 250,000 so those figures could be higher.
Lets just hope there are only a very few cat a + matches and it balances itself out.
You’ve made no reference to the children’s prices, that’s where the pricing feels most out of kilter for many.3000 tickets would be available to purchase so the price only impacts that many. I don’t think there will be more than 4 Cat A+ games all season and probably specifically has the Birmingham and Leicester home games in mind. The 20,000 who bought a ST are not impacted unless we get a money spinner FA Cup game.
Opposition away fans hit with these prices, I totally get it because it’s expensive and they don’t get the choice of a ST. Our fans did have that choice.
The comparisons with WBA’s ‘sensible’ pricing at £32 an adult is the same as our Category B. Most of our games last season was category B and if that trend continues, we have the same pricing structure as WBA. In fact, of our opening 4 home games, 3 are Cat B and only Birmingham is A+.
Bearing in mind WBA have midweek games v Norwich, Southampton, Charlton, Watford… each of these games will be £32 for away fans whereas these fixtures can be Cat B to D (£20-32) in our pricing structure.
The headline pricing is bad, but in reality our pricing structure is reasonable when you consider the ST prices and that only 6-8 home matches will be Cat A or A+.
You’ve made no reference to the children’s prices, that’s where the pricing feels most out of kilter for many.
I’m in the category of supporter that cannot justify a ST (geographical reasons for me) and I don’t have a huge issue with the adult prices, although the category A plus rates are a bit spicy for Championship football.
For the first time ever I think I will genuinely pick and choose matches based on category. Out of principle I can’t bring myself to part with £118 for me and my two kids for a league match on tv.
Do you ever actually watch football or is complaining about ticket prices your preferred entertainment?£20 for Luton...
Seems like a storm in a teapot to be honest because it only impacts about 6k supports split roughly evenly between the away supporters and Cov walk ups. I have a bit more empathy for away supporters because they don’t get to choose to get a ST or not.
Our ST prices remain v cheap, and that’s the litmus test of affordability. For the walk ups, there’ll be a handful games where the category is A+, probably Birmingham, Leicester, Swansea (Boxing Day), Ipswich and Wrexham (final home game). If these ‘rip off’ prices subsidise the ST prices, I’m all for it.
Seen the comments praises WBAs pricing structure, an adult ST at WBA is £100 more expensive than our standard ST price and £40 above our ‘premium’ seating. As a STH, I’d much rather have our deal than their
Its a lot for such a game £15 quid would have been a more tempting price .Do you ever actually watch football or is complaining about ticket prices your preferred entertainment?
Do you ever actually watch football or is complaining about ticket prices your preferred entertainment?
Surely nobody can moan at £20 for an adult. Do people think inflation doesn't impact football?Do you ever actually watch football or is complaining about ticket prices your preferred entertainment?
It’s a lot for such a game £15 quid would have been a more tempting price .
School holidays so should have looked at cheap tickets for kids at leastSurely nobody can moan at £20 for an adult. Do people think inflation doesn't impact football?
They did £15 last year and we only got 12k. We'll make more money at £20 a ticket.School holidays so should have looked at cheap tickets for kids at least
For a family of 4 it will cost £60 before anything else for a poor league cup tie
again club shooting themselves in the foot
if they priced at £15 and £5 would save families £20 which makes a big difference
School holidays so should have looked at cheap tickets for kids at least
For a family of 4 it will cost £60 before anything else for a poor league cup tie
again club shooting themselves in the foot
if they priced at £15 and £5 would save families £20 which makes a big difference
Wasps is a textbook example of how to cannibalise your customer base by offering cheap/free tickets.They did £15 last year and we only got 12k. We'll make more money at £20 a ticket.
£15 against a championship team in the second round and the North Stand was open. With North Stand being shut for this, will those who sit there want to move around to somewhere else? And does that include the family zone? It's potentially a risky move considering the match will be on TV anyway.They did £15 last year and we only got 12k. We'll make more money at £20 a ticket.
They should offer more points for these games tbhWasps is a textbook example of how to cannibalise your customer base by offering cheap/free tickets.
If your product is premium, price it accordingly. The points system is an additional incentive to go to these kind of games.
No doubt many of the ‘close shoppers’ skipped out on Bristol and Oxford last season, leaving 50 points on the table.
There's zero point for the 2 home pre-season games isn't here? Seems odd, maybe they just assume anyone who is bothered about points will be there anyway.They should offer more points for these games tbh
Agreed. I’m sure the last 2 away games to WBA were 20 pointers compared to Saturday games like Plymouth, Sunderland and Norwich. WBA away will always be a sold out allocation.They should offer more points for these games tbh
Where's the complaint. States a factDo you ever actually watch football or is complaining about ticket prices your preferred entertainment?
School holidays so should have looked at cheap tickets for kids at least
For a family of 4 it will cost £60 before anything else for a poor league cup tie
again club shooting themselves in the foot
if they priced at £15 and £5 would save families £20 which makes a big difference
‘If your product is premium ‘…..by stating that, you are surely assuming Frank will be playing the first team?Wasps is a textbook example of how to cannibalise your customer base by offering cheap/free tickets.
If your product is premium, price it accordingly. The points system is an additional incentive to go to these kind of games.
No doubt many of the ‘close shoppers’ skipped out on Bristol and Oxford last season, leaving 50 points on the table.
It was a more general comment but to answer the question, we will play a strong team because Luton are decent opposition.‘If your product is premium ‘…..by stating that, you are surely assuming Frank will be playing the first team?
QPR tickets not exactly flying off the shelf
Its an odd thing to punish somebody for not buying a season ticket by pricing them outGet the feeling match day tickets just exist to make you want to get a season ticket for value. But you can’t buy a season ticket. Weird.
Its an odd thing to punish somebody for not buying a season ticket by pricing them out
It's not an in-demand game and because there's 24k STH, there also isn't that many Cov fans left who would regularly follow us. The pricing isn't that bad because £28-35 is average ticket prices for Championship league matches now.QPR tickets not exactly flying off the shelf
It's not an in-demand game and because there's 24k STH, there also isn't that many Cov fans who would regularly follow us. The pricing isn't that bad because £28-35 is average ticket prices for Championship league matches now.
It could be £20 a ticket and you'll still get people moaning about the price to take a family of 8 out for the day.
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