Markelo

[Ccfcisparks]

You come across as immature for your age, then.

Says the bloke whos PFP is a care bear in a fucking stone island goggle jacket

 

[skybluecam]

None of the above explains why he didn't get a medal or name check while a couple of players with less game time did

I think he just wasn't at the game for some reason, can't see him in any of the pictures.

 

[PVA]

He was in all the celebrations after Blackburn and Pompey wasn't he?

So maybe he was just ill or absent for personal reasons.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

He was in all the celebrations after Blackburn and Pompey wasn't he?

So maybe he was just ill or absent for personal reasons.

Theres a rumour he had a personal problem back home to sort

 

[Jamesimus]

OK but one thing in all seriousness: we aren’t a PL club.

Kind of don’t want to say anything in case it ruins the surprise for you…

 

[chiefdave]

This isn’t true. Go watch the interview with Doug just posted. He says he hasn’t even started looking at next seasons plans yet.

Not really interested in the Markelo argument but even in the dark days of SISU when the recruitment team seemed to consist of one laptop (remember when one guy left and we lost all our recruitment info because he took the laptop with him?!?) we were consistently told recruitment was being planned one to two seasons ahead and covering all promotion and relegation possibilities.

Given every other area of the club has improved not really buying that recruitment has gone massively backwards under King and nobody has given a second thought to players we might need as a Premier League club.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

This isn’t true. Go watch the interview with Doug just posted. He says he hasn’t even started looking at next seasons plans yet.

Again it’s an outlier. Even parachute clubs don’t make signings like this. But feel free to prove me wrong

He’s looked at it things, it just hasn’t been finalised. Big difference.

That interview, whilst being insightful, was v guarded - King himself said he prefers to work ‘stealthily’.

 

[Jamesimus]

He’s looked at it things, it just hasn’t been finalised. Big difference.

That interview, whilst being insightful, was v guarded - King himself said he prefers to work ‘stealthily’.

He has said in other interviews that they have been making certain plans since we were top last year.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

He has said in other interviews that they have been making certain plans since we were top last year.

Exactly, we’ve been top since October and never in danger of dropping out of the top 2…

The club has obviously been making plans on recruitment and other areas. On ticket prices specifically, King said ‘TV money trumps all’ and that’s partly why he’s not really decided on that item yet. He’s seemingly not bothered about the Premier League Package handouts and the signs to be suggest we’ll hold ST prices quite low.

The opportunities for driving additional match day revenue is the ticket exchange and hospitality offerings. Therefore, my gut feeling is that the ST prices will be stable and will only raise modestly.

 

[Jamesimus]

never in danger of dropping out of the top 2…

I personally felt the danger consistently until the Swansea game, but that’s just who I am

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I personally felt the danger consistently until the Swansea game, but that’s just who I am

That’s because a lot of people felt Boro, Ipswich and Millwall would basically not drop any points…

I said at the time that these clubs weren’t going to put together 5-6+ game winning sequences because they hadn’t done all year.

True to form, they’ve been consistent albeit Boro have actually dropped off slightly, especially at home. The risk for them was always a) their home form was never 2.0 ppg + and b) tough away games add up and that’s where they led the league (not anymore).

 

[Hobo]

OK but one thing in all seriousness: we aren’t a PL club. Spending €5m on a player who then doesn’t play and isn’t injured is in fact a huge outlier at our level. So huge in fact I can’t find it ever happening at any championship club ever.

I will happily drop £20 to the charity of the posters choice if anyone can find a player who cost as much or more than Markelo, had no fitness concerns, an played less minutes in the same time since signing for a Championship club.

The first thing I'm curious about is why you have inflated the fee to 5m when it was reported to be
4.3

OK but one thing in all seriousness: we aren’t a PL club. Spending €5m on a player who then doesn’t play and isn’t injured is in fact a huge outlier at our level. So huge in fact I can’t find it ever happening at any championship club ever.

I will happily drop £20 to the charity of the posters choice if anyone can find a player who cost as much or more than Markelo, had no fitness concerns, an played less minutes in the same time since signing for a Championship club.

Markello 5 app 0 goals.
Yanik Wildschut 25 years old signed in January 2017 Norwich City £7m from Championship side Wigan 9 app 1 goal.
His appearances may be more but so was his fee and he was an established Championship player at Wigan.

 

[Hobo]

Not really interested in the Markelo argument but even in the dark days of SISU when the recruitment team seemed to consist of one laptop (remember when one guy left and we lost all our recruitment info because he took the laptop with him?!?) we were consistently told recruitment was being planned one to two seasons ahead and covering all promotion and relegation possibilities.

Given every other area of the club has improved not really buying that recruitment has gone massively backwards under King and nobody has given a second thought to players we might need as a Premier League club.

He also said Dean Austin had been busy and sent him a report he hadn't read yet.

Another bit I found of interest when they fired at him but you already know you are promoted and he said We've been leaders since October.

He also put in stuff like, let's just enjoy this moment, we still have a game to play and a party on Monday, let's just enjoy it.

I suspect plenty has been going on in the background. Doug is very much ask by all means but I won't necessarily tell you our transfer plans and targets.

Re the guy leaving with laptop it was Steven Pressley and it was his scouting data not SISU's or the clubs.

 

[CovRes]

He also said Dean Austin had been busy and sent him a report he hadn't read yet.

Another bit I found of interest when they fired at him but you already know you are promoted and he said We've been leaders since October.

He also put in stuff like, let's just enjoy this moment, we still have a game to play and a party on Monday, let's just enjoy it.

I suspect plenty has been going on in the background. Doug is very much ask by all means but I won't necessarily tell you our transfer plans and targets.

There was also a comment about comparing lists, Austin's and Lampard's. So I think it's safe to say that plenty of prep has been taking place.

 

[shmmeee]

The first thing I'm curious about is why you have inflated the fee to 5m when it was reported to be
4.3

Markello 5 app 0 goals.
Yanik Wildschut 25 years old signed in January 2017 Norwich City £7m from Championship side Wigan 9 app 1 goal.
His appearances may be more but so was his fee and he was an established Championship player at Wigan.

€5m = £4.3m. Wildschut played more in his first game than Markelo has since he signed so no doesn’t count.

 

[shmmeee]

Not really interested in the Markelo argument but even in the dark days of SISU when the recruitment team seemed to consist of one laptop (remember when one guy left and we lost all our recruitment info because he took the laptop with him?!?) we were consistently told recruitment was being planned one to two seasons ahead and covering all promotion and relegation possibilities.

Given every other area of the club has improved not really buying that recruitment has gone massively backwards under King and nobody has given a second thought to players we might need as a Premier League club.

Just going off the idea King spent €5m when we weren’t guaranteed up on a player he didn’t expect to play. That’s unusual at this level. Maybe an established PL club would drop that sort of money for someone they don’t expect to play but tbh even though I haven’t look I’d be surprised if you can find a player of Markelos age who a PL club signed for that money and didn’t play for three months. Happy to be proven wrong tho.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Just going off the idea King spent €5m when we weren’t guaranteed up on a player he didn’t expect to play. That’s unusual at this level. Maybe an established PL club would drop that sort of money for someone they don’t expect to play but tbh even though I haven’t look I’d be surprised if you can find a player of Markelos age who a PL club signed for that money and didn’t play for three months. Happy to be proven wrong tho.

Why do you think we signed him then

 

[shmmeee]

He’s looked at it things, it just hasn’t been finalised. Big difference.

That interview, whilst being insightful, was v guarded - King himself said he prefers to work ‘stealthily’.

The argument here is we signed Markelo knowing we’d be a PL club and not planning to play him cos we’re big time and that’s what PL clubs do just to be clear.

 

[Pusb1]

He is in an instagram video the club posted from today. Looked very jovial too

 

[shmmeee]

Offer stands anyway if anyone can find a player rather than just saying stuff. Put my money where your mouth is.

 

[shmmeee]

What I don't get about your line of argument is that it's repeatedly been said that Markelo wasn't particularly expected to make an impact this season, the transfer was made because he was a player we wanted for the summer but other clubs were coming in for him. Do you think that's a lie? Or you just don't agree with the strategy.

I think he’s not as good as we thought and we aren’t going to say that cos we need to keep his value up tbh. Thats what the evidence points to. Teams at our level don’t drop that cash on players who can’t make the first team. It literally hasn’t happened before that I can find.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I think he’s not as good as we thought and we aren’t going to say that cos we need to keep his value up tbh. Thats what the evidence points to. Teams at our level don’t drop that cash on players who can’t make the first team. It literally hasn’t happened before that I can find.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA

 

[wingy]

Why do you think we signed him then

Replacement?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

The argument here is we signed Markelo knowing we’d be a PL club and not planning to play him cos we’re big time and that’s what PL clubs do just to be clear.

Not necessarily, the argument is that we didn’t buy him to make an instant impact. Invariably, the club would have factored in the high probity we’d be promoted.

In the same way we signed Onyeka ‘with an obligation to buy’ if we were promoted…

 

[Jamesimus]

Offer stands anyway if anyone can find a player rather than just saying stuff. Put my money where your mouth is.

I’m genuinely slightly unsure on what you’re trying to prove? Is it the number of times someone can be wrong on a forum and not acknowledge it later on, or something similar to that?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I’m genuinely slightly unsure on what you’re trying to prove? Is it the number of times someone can be wrong on a forum and not acknowledge it later on, or something similar to that?

If you cant answer his bet then that was the real quiz

 

[Jamesimus]

If you cant answer his bet then that was the real quiz

Im not using a search engine on behalf of another forum user on my Friday evening Parksy.

 

[Jamesimus]

The argument here is we signed Markelo knowing we’d be a PL club and not planning to play him cos we’re big time and that’s what PL clubs do just to be clear.

So are you saying…

a) Markelo is shite, that’s why he has made a few sub appearances etc.

b) WE ARE A PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB (question marks over your previous post here…) and we are trying to get a return on our investment so we are not playing him so people can’t see he’s crap.

c) We have speculated and are banking on selling on for an increased fee or loaning out and then getting an increased fee (this is where I’m at btw).

d) The recruitment is mental, we should be questioning these things a lot because it’s just not working. Onyeka for example? What the hell was that all about?!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

So are you saying…

a) Markelo is shite, that’s why he has made a few sub appearances etc.

b) WE ARE A PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB (question marks over your previous post here…) and we are trying to get a return on our investment so we are not playing him so people can’t see he’s crap.

c) We have speculated and are banking on selling on for an increased fee or loaning out and then getting an increased fee (this is where I’m at btw).

d) The recruitment is mental, we should be questioning these things a lot because it’s just not working. Onyeka for example? What the hell was that all about?!

Next Season's Team

Rushworth has to be first signing besides FTT who I believe is an obligation to buy anyway. Hope we can sell our strikers to the highest bidder from those going down to the Championship or top tier Championship teams. I’m sure there’d be interest in them. Should help raise funds for the summer...

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On the 12th April we were a Prem team according to him so im not sure whats changed

 

[clint van damme]

I think he’s not as good as we thought and we aren’t going to say that cos we need to keep his value up tbh. Thats what the evidence points to. Teams at our level don’t drop that cash on players who can’t make the first team. It literally hasn’t happened before that I can find.

Lampard said when we signed him he needed to develop

Frank Lampard explains Coventry City's latest transfer Jahnoah Markelo

Coventry City transfer news from CoventryLive as Frank Lampard reveals the decision behind signing another right winger

www.coventrytelegraph.net

 

[shmmeee]

Lampard said when we signed him he needed to develop

Frank Lampard explains Coventry City's latest transfer Jahnoah Markelo

Coventry City transfer news from CoventryLive as Frank Lampard reveals the decision behind signing another right winger

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Im really not sure how much clearer I can make my point but I’ll try once again cos why the hell not:

It is unusual for a championship club to sign a player for this amount and then not to be ready to play. In fact I would go as far as unprecedented. A 23 year old who is actually worth the money we paid should be good enough to start in the championship. Therefore it is noteworthy that we have made a signing for that money who is not good enough to get minutes. Things that happen for the first time are noteworthy.

That link implies he would play in the league this season. He did not for all intents and purposes.

 

[clint van damme]

Im really not sure how much clearer I can make my point but I’ll try once again cos why the hell not:

It is unusual for a championship club to sign a player for this amount and then not to be ready to play. In fact I would go as far as unprecedented. A 23 year old who is actually worth the money we paid should be good enough to start in the championship. Therefore it is noteworthy that we have made a signing for that money who is not good enough to get minutes. Things that happen for the first time are noteworthy.

That link implies he would play in the league this season. He did not for all intents and purposes.

It doesn't imply he would play this season, it implies he might .
But it categorically states he's one for the future, so however unusual it is it appears that's what has happened.

I'd say, and Im prepared to be corrected, that it's unusual for a championship club to spend big on a player in January and loan him to the selling club for the rest of the season, but that's what we did with EMC.

 

[Shannerz]

I think he’s not as good as we thought and we aren’t going to say that cos we need to keep his value up tbh.

Would it not be better to sit on this one, wait and see what happens?

If you're proved right, you can say 'I told you so', but constantly doubling down on something you're just guessing at, and which is based on nothing but a feeling, really, isn't really proving anything.

It may be he's a dud, but he's been here a few months; can't write players off after that, especially when they've just moved to an entirely new country.

 

[Skybluedogwood]

Is the consensus then he won’t even be on the bench tomorrow for whatever reason, whether that’s opening some “nostalgia” slots, dealing with family issues, etc ?

unless the decision has already been made to farm him out next season, tomorrow is an ideal chance to take a better look at him and you know Bidders will be doggedly supporting up that flank.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

Would it not be better to sit on this one, wait and see what happens?

If you're proved right, you can say 'I told you so', but constantly doubling down on something you're just guessing at, and which is based on nothing but a feeling, really, isn't really proving anything.

It may be he's a dud, but he's been here a few months; can't write players off after that, especially when they've just moved to an entirely new country.

Mason - Clark in his early days with us didn't exactly sparkle did he . Need to show some patience