Markelo vs Esse (5 Viewers)
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Personally I wouldn't.
I think he could be a very good player in the future but he's got a lot of learning to do and is nowhere near PL ready. Given what Palace paid for him he's not going to be a cheap signing and this summer we're going to need all the transfer money for players that will be able to make an impact straight away rather than expensive development players. Hopefully in seasons beyond that we can get more of a mix of development and first team but not this year.
shmmeee
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Yeah if we could pick him up for pocket change and stick him in L1 to learn the game then fair enough, but I’d expect that’s what Palace will do with him. We need players who are going to be useful next season really. Once we’re established we can drop £10m on a player who isn’t ready.
Ccfcisparks
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No chance.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He looks like he’s got a lot of learning to do, and I’d rather not have someone like that in a season where you need all hands on deck.
Age is irrelevant to that role. Poch said it takes 18-months for a foreign player to become properly acclimatised to English football. Brighton sign players 12 months ahead of considering them for the first team for integration purposes.
We might not see the best of him until 27/28 - but the recruitment team wouldn't have taken that chance if they didn't think he could make an impact
shmmeee
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The 24 year old Brighton signed from abroad in the summer has made 24 appearances out of a possible 31…
Obviously not every signing... the example you chose is a guy who played 12 times in the Champions League last season & was capped 10 times for Belgium before signing.
Here is a better one. Moises Caicedo was signed in January 2021 and didn't play a single minute for Brighton that season. He was then loaned out to Belgium before being integrated into the first team.
He was younger than Markelo of course but the principle is the same (our recruitment strategy is clearly to target players aged 22-24 whereas Brighton target teenagers). Markelo will be 24 the season after next & that is when I think we're hoping he can push to be the starting RW
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Never quite sure how integrating them into the team and sending them on loan to Belgium for a year really works.
shmmeee
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I just don’t buy that we’re making signings for more than the majority of our squad then sticking them in the reserves for 18 months.
Ccfcisparks
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he’s not in the reserves?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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We're not in the Premier League...
SleepyGinger
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Unless he’s shown an unbelievable level in training I’d be surprised if he’s our 2nd choice left winger next year. I also think he is more of a RW just that Yang is our only natural LW behind EMC.
Ccfcisparks
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Why did we sign him for near £5m when we were clear top of the league if we don’t have plans for him in the prem
SleepyGinger
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Might still be involved, might be loaned out. Just can’t see him being our only back up left winger. Still young so plenty of time to get our moneys worth out of him.
Ccfcisparks
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He won’t be. Wright can play LW also
SleepyGinger
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Lampard doesn’t seem to think so, we’ll sign at least 1 player who will compete with EMC for that left wing spot IMO.
Ccfcisparks
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We will see. i’d be surprised
Warwickhunt
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Markelo will be our cheat code in the Premier League!
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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Dont compare enjoy them both, they’re different sorts of players. Markelo being blessed with more pace and crossing ability and Esse with more trickery and flair
PUSB-We_are_going_up
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We will see Markelo in the Premier League next season
skybluecam
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Esse would never be going on loan to league 1. You do make some odd comments.
Ccfcisparks
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he’s stoned
shmmeee
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He’s not ready for this level I’m not sure what you’ve seen that suggests otherwise. Plenty of PL teenagers go on loan to L1. It’s where we got Sheaf and O’Hare from for example.
skybluecam
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He’s obviously ready for this level, it’s where he needs to learn his lessons.
He’d learn nothing in league one because he’s so talented he could get away with the nonsense.
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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Jesus give the guy a chance.
shmmeee
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What? He can’t get in a Championship side. When he’s on the pitch he looks like he doesn’t know where he should be and his decision making is piss poor. Just because he can twat the ball and do some flicks doesn’t make him a footballer. He needs to go somewhere and learn the game like a lot of teenagers do. He’s clearly got some talent with the ball at his feet but he doesn’t impact games at all at this level because he’s missing the basics of football intelligence he’ll get from playing actual games. I certainly wouldn’t be looking to sign him and play him.
skybluecam
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He was starting every week for Millwall before he moved. Not being able to get in the side 9 points clear at the top of the league doesn’t mean you need to drop down a league
shmmeee
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He was starting every week for Millwall before he moved. Not being able to get in the side 9 points clear at the top of the league doesn’t mean you need to drop down a league
Do you honestly think from what you’ve seen he’s capable at this level? Game of opinions and all that but I’ve not seen a loan this far out of his depth for a while.
skybluecam
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Yes he would probably start every week for a mid table club.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He has a lot of ability and desire to impress but not a lot of discipline.
standupforcity
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Markelo is a star in the making.. you heard it here first!!!
Shannerz
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He earnt a top flight move and commanded a hefty fee thanks to his performances in the Championship.
He needs to learn discipline, and will no doubt get a good Championship loan next year where he'll get the opportunity to do that.
Balli001
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Well he got signed by Palace for 12 million and played this season for them...
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I think the only way he's going to learn the discipline and positional awareness is for him to play at a level that is a test for him. I think L1 he could cruise through without having to develop those sides of his game. So he has to be at Championship level to do that. Technically he's more than good enough and an average club at this level he could probably be useful to them for those moments of magic and so would play regularly, allowing that development.