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Looking bad for Villa....who do we want? (1 Viewer)

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kg82

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #36
Ring Of Steel said:
Were you one of the ones who ran across the pitch when it all kicked off? We had fans everywhere that day
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Nah, I was 10 and even at that young age I knew to keep my mouth shut! No way I was saying anything. Luckily (or typically) we didn’t show up that day and nearly went down! So not much to cheer about
 

Adge

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #37
kg82 said:
Yeah, I stood in the Holte End in 92 and can categorically state it’s not all one way. More our way than their way, fair enough, but not one way.
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Was with you then mate in the bottom corner. Then running on the pitch to get to the Cov end just before KO! :emoji_smile:
 
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Specs WT-R75

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #38
jim20 said:
I’d like Bournemouth to come down. It always appears to me they are made out to have been successful through not spending too much and bringing up youth, where I don’t think it’s true. I also think they massively underpaid us for Wilson, they saw we were in financial difficulty and came swooping. I can imagine they’ve done the same to other clubs
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It's all relative. You don't think we will take advantage of the current situation by nabbing a few players from L1 when the dust has settled?
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #39
I'd like Bournemouth to go down for purely selfish reasons in that I haven't been there for a game yet.
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #40
Villa home and away would create a real buzz around the city, whether you agree with the "rivalry" or not, it'll be the first fixture most fans look for when they are released.

As for getting shown up by them, Mings McGinn and Grealish will likely go and they will just be another top 6 Championship team, we will have as much chance of beating them as we will have beating Norwich, West Ham or Watford.
 
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junglej13

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #41
Would give my left bollock to play Villa again. Hate how some say it's embarrassing the supposed rivalry with Villa. Growing up in Nuneaton half my mates at school supported Villa and having them games back in the calendar for the first time would be unbelievable.
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #42
junglej13 said:
Would give my left bollock to play Villa again. Hate how some say it's embarrassing the supposed rivalry with Villa. Growing up in Nuneaton half my mates at school supported Villa and having them games back in the calendar for the first time would be unbelievable.
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Same on the west side of Coventry, the want to play them and the enjoyment at watching them struggle is very real. Never understood the "rivalry" with Leicester, never met a Leicester fan in my life.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #43
hill83 said:
It’s good to be talking about current premier league teams in relation to games we will be playing next season and it not being about their under 23’s.
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Although never forget smashing west ham 4-2 is what got wheels in motion for double promotion!
 
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better days

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #44
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I would like to see West Ham get relegated as the meltdown will be great Mrs Brady old lady will be saying it should never have restarted and all that crap. Their fans detest the owners and new ground if they had an iffy start it would be toxic there.

Whoever comes down should be at the top due to the grossly unfair parachute payments there budgets will probably be twenty times ours
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The covenant with the Legacy company (regarding the stadium) that prohibited the current owners selling expires next year
Won't be surprised if Gold & Sullivan sell out
Americans already own 10%
Brady is just an employee and is universally detested
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #45
When we play Villa again some people are going to be so, so disappointed at how little they actually care about us.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #46
Where I work near to Tamworth there are loads of Villa fans I can only think of three people there who obviously haven’t had their brain removed
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #47
David O'Day said:
When we play Villa again some people are going to be so, so disappointed at how little they actually care about us.
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I don't think anyone's that bothered with what they think though, most understand on a list of local derby's for Villa we are probably 4th out of 5 that they care about.

People just want something to be excited about and playing the biggest club in the midlands for the first time in nearly 20 years will do that.

Who cares if they don't reciprocate
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #48
CCFC88 said:
I don't think anyone's that bothered with what they think though, most understand on a list of local derby's for Villa we are probably 4th out of 5 that they care about.

People just want something to be excited about and playing the biggest club in the midlands for the first time in nearly 20 years will do that.

Who cares if they don't reciprocate
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That is rather sad though don't you think. Hating a club that doesn't care about you.

All Villa will care about next year if they go down is being in the same league as Blues again.
 

matesx

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #49
All Villa will care about next year if they go down is being in the same league as Blues again.

True.... and if we are still at Stans, the home game v Villa could be dodgy as fuck.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #50
matesx said:
All Villa will care about next year if they go down is being in the same league as Blues again.

True.... and if we are still at Stans, the home game v Villa could be dodgy as fuck.
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Aye we could get caught up in a blues villa rumble quite easily
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #51
David O'Day said:
I'd like Bournemouth to go down for purely selfish reasons in that I haven't been there for a game yet.
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Yes, same here. Hoping Hull City survive and Fulham don't get promoted for similar reasons.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #52
matesx said:
All Villa will care about next year if they go down is being in the same league as Blues again.

True.... and if we are still at Stans, the home game v Villa could be dodgy as fuck.
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Here we go.....
 

TomRad85

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #53
CCFC88 said:
I don't think anyone's that bothered with what they think though, most understand on a list of local derby's for Villa we are probably 4th out of 5 that they care about.

People just want something to be excited about and playing the biggest club in the midlands for the first time in nearly 20 years will do that.

Who cares if they don't reciprocate
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Birmingham based Villa fans don't give a shit about us but Villa have fans all over Warwickshire and trust me, they would hate it if we turned them over.

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kg82

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #54
David O'Day said:
That is rather sad though don't you think. Hating a club that doesn't care about you.

All Villa will care about next year if they go down is being in the same league as Blues again.
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I don’t hate any club. But by your logic, I shouldn’t dislike any club? I mean, nobody really cares about Coventry unless we’re their next game.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #55
kg82 said:
I don’t hate any club. But by your logic, I shouldn’t dislike any club? I mean, nobody really cares about Coventry unless we’re their next game.
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Dislike any club you want but the ott villa hatred is silly.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #56
They always cared more than they made out. Granted, given that we haven't played them for 20 years, their younger generations won't get it, but the older ones I know seem to have a very good memory of Cov Villa games from the past, which contradicts the disinterest in us they always claim.
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #57
David O'Day said:
That is rather sad though don't you think. Hating a club that doesn't care about you.

All Villa will care about next year if they go down is being in the same league as Blues again.
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Nobody on here has said they hate Villa? I think you are mistaking excitement for hatred, or misquoting to make your point carry more weight, but that's not like you now is it....

Who are you excited to play next season?
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #58
CCFC88 said:
Nobody on here has said they hate Villa? I think you are mistaking excitement for hatred, or misquoting to make your point carry more weight, but that's not like you now is it....

Who are you excited to play next season?
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To be fair noone on here specifically has, but if you go on Facebook/Twitter pretty much every meme/gif etc is poking fun at Villa. I get the excitement, it would excite me too. More because we become slightly more relevant to my group of mates. My mates feel nothing negative towards us and have come with me to games countless times. I just find all the SOTV etc posts embarrassing personally. It would be like 20 years from now, we're in Championship or PL and Walsall are still banging on about us. I'd just pity them a little bit.
 
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junglej13

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #59
David O'Day said:
When we play Villa again some people are going to be so, so disappointed at how little they actually care about us.
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Not the ones I grew up with. They pretend to hate Blues and say it is their big derby when actually they don't know anyone who supports them. The whole point in a derby is about bragging rights and it being unbearable to go to school or work if you lose. The Villa fans I know would hate to lose to us... because I'd make it unbearable for them.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #60
I think an air of 'arrogance' in not hating any club - because we are simply so much bigger than all the others is the way to go about it. Hah! It would be beneath oneself to cast loathing upon those who flail in our wake!
Mind you, I've had a mild dislike of Stoke City ever since getting legged down Swan Lane as a 13 year old in 1979.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #61
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
To be fair noone on here specifically has, but if you go on Facebook/Twitter pretty much every meme/gif etc is poking fun at Villa. I get the excitement, it would excite me too. More because we become slightly more relevant to my group of mates. My mates feel nothing negative towards us and have come with me to games countless times. I just find all the SOTV etc posts embarrassing personally. It would be like 20 years from now, we're in Championship or PL and Walsall are still banging on about us. I'd just pity them a little bit.
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Exactly
 

Paxman II

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #62
I am slightly amazed at the respones here. Surely the weaker the opposition is likely to be the better our chances of staying up? While parachute payments make them all able to spend way more on players, the fact is West Ham or Villa would likely be tougher oppo than Bournemouth or Norwich or Watford wouldn't you say? Like playig the roulette wheel, which one would you back? We need to stay up and every little bit will help that. The outide chance of O'Hare coming must rest on Villa's ability to stay up.
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #63
junglej13 said:
Not the ones I grew up with. They pretend to hate Blues and say it is their big derby when actually they don't know anyone who supports them. The whole point in a derby is about bragging rights and it being unbearable to go to school or work if you lose. The Villa fans I know would hate to lose to us... because I'd make it unbearable for them.
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Exactly
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #64
Paxman II said:
I am slightly amazed at the respones here. Surely the weaker the opposition is likely to be the better our chances of staying up? While parachute payments make them all able to spend way more on players, the fact is West Ham or Villa would likely be tougher oppo than Bournemouth or Norwich or Watford wouldn't you say? Like playig the roulette wheel, which one would you back? We need to stay up and every little bit will help that. The outide chance of O'Hare coming must rest on Villa's ability to stay up.
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That depends whether you're looking short term or long term. If Villa or West Ham will be tougher games for us they will be for the rest of the league too. Whichever teams come down they have such a huge advantage with parachute payments that they will all be favoured to go straight back up, even little Bournemouth. The advantages of playing Villa again would be the extra interest it would bring within the City, and if the unlikely happened and we beat them, the feel good factor which could propel the club forward, much more than a win against Bournemouth would. Surely anyone would rather watch us play Villa in front of a full house than Bournemouth in a half empty stadium.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #65
Paxman II said:
I am slightly amazed at the respones here. Surely the weaker the opposition is likely to be the better our chances of staying up? While parachute payments make them all able to spend way more on players, the fact is West Ham or Villa would likely be tougher oppo than Bournemouth or Norwich or Watford wouldn't you say? Like playig the roulette wheel, which one would you back? We need to stay up and every little bit will help that. The outide chance of O'Hare coming must rest on Villa's ability to stay up.
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God you are in the dongo league of talking shite
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #66
skyblue025 said:
I doubt Bournemouth would struggle in the Championship. They would buy there way back up like last time. Villa might be in the shit with ffp depending how much they lost last sesson. Would love to see West Ham down. Owners and fans think they are massive.
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They would probably sell Callum Wilson to fund buying players to make another run at the Premiership
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #67
Paxman II said:
I am slightly amazed at the respones here. Surely the weaker the opposition is likely to be the better our chances of staying up? While parachute payments make them all able to spend way more on players, the fact is West Ham or Villa would likely be tougher oppo than Bournemouth or Norwich or Watford wouldn't you say? Like playig the roulette wheel, which one would you back? We need to stay up and every little bit will help that. The outide chance of O'Hare coming must rest on Villa's ability to stay up.
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On the other hand you could say the likes of Villa and West Ham are more likely to have their squads pulled apart by selling premier league quality players. The likes of Norwich are Watford are more likely to keep their players as they don't have the standouts such as Grealish, McGinn, Mings, they're more likely to require a rebuild which is more of an uncertainty.

I expect Cantwell and Pukki to turn out for Norwich in the Championship next year, I don't expect Villa will have Grealish and McGinn.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #68
CCFC88 said:
On the other hand you could say the likes of Villa and West Ham are more likely to have their squads pulled apart by selling premier league quality players. The likes of Norwich are Watford are more likely to keep their players as they don't have the standouts such as Grealish, McGinn, Mings, they're more likely to require a rebuild which is more of an uncertainty.

I expect Cantwell and Pukki to turn out for Norwich in the Championship next year, I don't expect Villa will have Grealish and McGinn.
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Someone will take Pukki, they'll regret it but they'll take him off them
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #69
David O'Day said:
Someone will take Pukki, they'll regret it but they'll take him off them
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I'm not sure they will, he's 30 and has been found out to not be up to it in the prem. He'll be a Championship player next season with Norwich and he'll probably do quite well.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jun 22, 2020
  • #70
CCFC88 said:
I'm not sure they will, he's 30 and has been found out to not be up to it in the prem. He'll be a Championship player next season with Norwich and he'll probably do quite well.
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Not up to it? He's got double figure goals in PL for an awful team.

Players who have done far less get sold for millions.
 
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