Long throws (4 Viewers)

[wingy]

I had a feeling it was banned, just got this info from Google ...
Yes, the English Football League (EFL) has banned the use of towels to dry the ball for throw-ins, but the Premier League has not. The EFL ban, which took effect for the 2023-24 season, was implemented to stop time-wasting and was accompanied by a new multi-ball system.

Premier League: The Premier League has not followed suit with a ban. While a Premier League player has recently been stopped from using a towel, this reflects recent enforcement of a grey area rather than a formal rule change.
Why the ban? The primary reason for the ban in the EFL is to prevent time-wasting by players who might otherwise take time to dry the ball.

Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?

 

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[wingy]

Yeah nobody has committed an offence they need to be punished for, it's just getting the ball back into play after it's gone out.

I am also very sceptical that the existing rules are even being applied. People are clearly striding and chucking it off one foot.

Again though most of the delay is down to referees isn't it?

 

[Calista]

Again though most of the delay is down to referees isn't it?

A fair point, similar to what shmmeee said about allowing quick free kicks. The other team has committed an offence, why should you be prevented from taking it as soon as you want?

 

[wingy]

A fair point, similar to what shmmeee said about allowing quick free kicks. The other team has committed an offence, why should you be prevented from taking it as soon as you want?

Yeah I agree with that one, but a throw in is not an offense,we should absolutely use both and spring a surprise.

 

[Mcbean]

Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?

I spotted the young guy on the dugout side using his coat to dry the ball for Milan - top briefing and they are more awake this season

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?

Yeah and if it's raining just get the ball boy to put a towel over it try and keep it dry.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Just sick of the time wasting and long throws are boring when you’re up against them. Birmingham the other season when we had to wait for the big lump to wander up and take it each time. Yawn. Throw ins should IMO be more part of the game flow than free kicks. Though I’d also stop not allowing quick free kicks for similar reasons. Basically I like watching football not men in shorts stood about. Like the back pass rule I think it would make the game better.

It's not really time wasting though, is it? It's not like we're trying to run the clock down by MVE running from the right hand side to the left to take a throw on.

No real difference between that and Grimes coming from midfield position to take a corner. Where do you draw the line?

 

[shmmeee]

It's not really time wasting though, is it? It's not like we're trying to run the clock down by MVE running from the right hand side to the left to take a throw on.

No real difference between that and Grimes coming from midfield position to take a corner. Where do you draw the line?

It’s a fair question and why im not in charge of football. Throw ins just feel different

 

[blunted]

We are going to miss that delivery against Wrexham, that booking MvE picked up was so frustrating.

Yes stupid and unnecessary. Think a few of our bookings have been daft eg Haji kicking the ball away.
Yellow cards should be reserved for professional fouls.
Most clubs used to have a player committee that decide if a fine is appropriate. Assume that still happens.

 

[blunted]

I don’t think there’s anything rational about it, it’s just like people who don’t like teams who keep a lot of possession at the back.

I find waiting for the throw-in taker to trot over to the touchline (and then towel off the ball, and then organise the players, and then take a big run up etc) to be quite annoying I guess.

Are teams allowed towels now? Never see them now.
Remember the Stoke player who used to send long throws in low like a bullet.

 

[Hobo]

Football is about taking advantage in certain situations. Long throws just defend them. A good defence just puts the ball out, regroups and defends the set piec.

A confident regrouped defence is hard to break down.

 

[Hobo]

Are teams allowed towels now? Never see them now.
Remember the Stoke player who used to send long throws in low like a bullet.

no they are not. But can still use the shirt. Or gloves.

 

[JulianDarbyFTW]

Bobby Thomas has a long throw too. I assume he's not used it as much as he could because of his playing position, but I seem to recall it was a quite handy weapon at his previous clubs.

 

[Hobo]

Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?

No because you will start getting a home team bias. Ball boys should just put the ball on the cone. Ball boys/persons should have minimal responsibility to avoid any blame. Players should retrieve the ball, not kids. The kids job is to retrieve the balls the players can’t be arsed to get.

 

[JohnWH]

I'm not a fan of throw-ins, period. They ought to be kick-ins. Most throw-ins are awful, and officials don't seem to bother enforcing basic rules anymore like both feet still on the ground, from fully behind the head, don't encroach onto the field of play, and the inevitable time wasting of the entire ordeal. Just do a kick-in. Ever since I've been a kid I've held this opinion. For a game called football why in the world were throw-ins developed.

 

[Hobo]

I'm not a fan of throw-ins, period. They ought to be kick-ins. Most throw-ins are awful, and officials don't seem to bother enforcing basic rules anymore like both feet still on the ground, from fully behind the head, don't encroach onto the field of play, and the inevitable time wasting of the entire ordeal. Just do a kick-in. Ever since I've been a kid I've held this opinion. For a game called football why in the world were throw-ins developed.

Since when have players took a free kick from the right place or took them as quickly as possible

 

[Calista]

I'm not a fan of throw-ins, period. They ought to be kick-ins.

A free kick then, every time the ball goes out of play? That would completely devalue actual free kicks and corners.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Bobby Thomas has a long throw too. I assume he's not used it as much as he could because of his playing position, but I seem to recall it was a quite handy weapon at his previous clubs.

He’s also our main threat from set pieces…

 

[Johhny Blue]

I have been watching MVE and his long throws quite a bit recently. He usually tends to want a fresh ball or to wipe it dry with the inside of his shirt. No problem. However, a little training and the supply of some hand towels for the ball boys would ensure he always gets a dry ball, and if they could be 'forgetful' to do the same for the opposition it would be great.

I thought I heard pitchside towels were banned? Did I imagine that?

 

[Johhny Blue]

Bobby Thomas has a long throw too. I assume he's not used it as much as he could because of his playing position, but I seem to recall it was a quite handy weapon at his previous clubs.

Not sure he has a playing position anymore. Last week we were 3-1 up with a few minutes left and he was flagged offside.