Long throws (4 Viewers)

[SleepyGinger]

Another goal from the long throw yesterday, Sunderland and Brentford both scored from one yesterday. Becoming much more prevalent in football. It’s not something that ever gets mentioned when talking about MVE but it’s probably adds another £1m to his value?

 

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[Legia Sky Blue]

Plenty on here were happy for MVE to go for as little as £5m in the Summer and were pissed off we hadn't sold him to strengthen the team elsewhere come the end of the transfer window. I would be surprised if we were able to sell him now if he would go for less than £12m.

 

[fatso]

Another goal from the long throw yesterday, Sunderland and Brentford both scored from one yesterday. Becoming much more prevalent in football. It’s not something that ever gets mentioned when talking about MVE but it’s probably adds another £1m to his value?

We are going to miss that delivery against Wrexham, that booking MvE picked up was so frustrating.

 

[SBT]

Hate them as a tactic but I’m not complaining with the results…

 

[Mcbean]

We are going to miss that delivery against Wrexham, that booking MvE picked up was so frustrating.

Particularly as I think they have someone who can also do it !

 

[shmmeee]

Hate them as a tactic but I’m not complaining with the results…

Id bring in a timer for throws like we’ve got now for keepers, it would completely remove the long throw from the game but thats a price worth paying imo.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

We are going to miss that delivery against Wrexham, that booking MvE picked up was so frustrating.

As others have said it's better to miss the Wrexham game than the Sheffield United game.

Being on four yellows, it's bound to happen sooner or later.

 

[Bad Boy]

Id bring in a timer for throws like we’ve got now for keepers, it would completely remove the long throw from the game but thats a price worth paying imo.

Let's bring in a new rule, throw ins must be no longer than 5 meters and must be thrown to feet only.

 

[shmmeee]

Let's bring in a new rule, throw ins must be no longer than 5 meters and must be thrown to feet only.

Similarly all kicks from goalkeepers must reach a height of 5m and travel to at least the halfway line.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Hate them as a tactic but I’m not complaining with the results…

I hate moving the hoardings as a tactic as well. But it’s effective as a counter-measure.

 

[DT-R]

Hate them as a tactic but I’m not complaining with the results…

Ill never understand why long throws are hated so much as a tactic?

Its as good as a cross. Gets it directly in to the mixer. Should we stop putting corners in to the box aswell and take every corner short and try and pass it in to the box? Or are corners ok to put in the box? Its just throw ins that arent? A long throw is no different to any corners or a cross, just from a slightly different angle. I dont get all the hatred for them.

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[StrettoBoy]

Let's bring in a new rule, throw ins must be no longer than 5 meters and must be thrown to feet only.

I agree.

But I would only introduce the rule when we no longer have anyone capable of taking long throws.

 

[SBT]

Ill never understand why long throws are hated so much as a tactic?

Its as good as a cross. Gets it directly in to the mixer. Should we stop putting corners in to the box aswell and take every corner short and try and pass it in to the box? Or are corners ok to put in the box? Its just throw ins that arent? A long throw is no different to any corners or a cross, just from a slightly different angle. I dont get all the hatred for them.

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I don’t think there’s anything rational about it, it’s just like people who don’t like teams who keep a lot of possession at the back.

I find waiting for the throw-in taker to trot over to the touchline (and then towel off the ball, and then organise the players, and then take a big run up etc) to be quite annoying I guess.

 

[SAJ]

We are going to miss that delivery against Wrexham, that booking MvE picked up was so frustrating.

It was so needless. I was expecting him to come off at half time to protect him from another booking.

 

[Mcbean]

It’s as good as a corner particularly as Milan can get the delivery flat into the penalty spot - other pretenders have a big loop without the distance

 

[shmmeee]

I wonder if it was intentional. Rather have him miss the Wrexham game than the ones coming up after?

 

[wingy]

Id bring in a timer for throws like we’ve got now for keepers, it would completely remove the long throw from the game but thats a price worth paying imo.

But the time taken is down to the ref organising and policing players tugging or barging, not for me to argue for or against but I'm not a purist.

 

[pusbccfc]

They are better than corners. It's remarkable it never fully continued after Rory Delap.

 

[SkyBlueChris]

I wonder if it was intentional. Rather have him miss the Wrexham game than the ones coming up after?

Im pretty certain it was, it looked bloody scripted as he did it!

 

[DT-R]

I don’t think there’s anything rational about it, it’s just like people who don’t like teams who keep a lot of possession at the back.

I find waiting for the throw-in taker to trot over to the touchline (and then towel off the ball, and then organise the players, and then take a big run up etc) to be quite annoying I guess.

No different to the right winger trotting over to the left to take a corner, and waiting for all the CHs to trot forward, and stand in a line like the conga, then the corner taker putting his left arm, or his right arm, or both arms, or sometimes the ball, aloft in the air, to signify the ball will go nowhere he plans it to, only to meet the head of the first defender!
Or free kicks taken from the byline, 35-40 yards out that are floated in to the back post, that usually go out for a goal kick or in to the keepers hands. Let's stop them too! Only short passes from free kicks. No direct free kicks either as a rule. That way it saves a keeper having to fuck around with the positioning of the wall? No shots equals no walls!

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[Alkhen]

Might have imagined it but didn't KKH do one after he came on yesterday?

 

[DT-R]

Might have imagined it but didn't KKH do one after he came on yesterday?

Yeah, wasnt quite as long as MVE but he certainly put it in the box. I think Brau has it in his locker aswell.

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[Mercian In Anglia]

Moaning about MVE's long throws is on my Chrissy Wilder excuses bingo card, along with The Enemy pre-match gig ('imagine if we got T'Beautiful South ont pitch before every game?'), batches rather than sandwiches, something about Basette, and City not having the pressure of parachute payments to deal with.

 

[Johhny Blue]

We are going to miss that delivery against Wrexham, that booking MvE picked up was so frustrating.

It gives us a chance to get a good luck at KKH

 

[JSL]

I have been watching MVE and his long throws quite a bit recently. He usually tends to want a fresh ball or to wipe it dry with the inside of his shirt. No problem. However, a little training and the supply of some hand towels for the ball boys would ensure he always gets a dry ball, and if they could be 'forgetful' to do the same for the opposition it would be great.

 

[DT-R]

I have been watching MVE and his long throws quite a bit recently. He usually tends to want a fresh ball or to wipe it dry with the inside of his shirt. No problem. However, a little training and the supply of some hand towels for the ball boys would ensure he always gets a dry ball, and if they could be 'forgetful' to do the same for the opposition it would be great.

"Arsenal's Riccardo Calafiori was stopped by referee Jarred Gillet from using a towel to dry the ball before taking a throw-in against Newcastle United - but why?

It's because of the Premier League's rules around the multi-ball system.

Clubs have to agree to the availability of towels around the field of play before the match. If both clubs fail to come to an agreement, towels cannot be used.

As both Newcastle and Arsenal did not agree to the use of towels, the referee could step in to prevent the Italian from using one before taking his throw-in.

However, if the clubs do come to an agreement, players can use towels during matches.

That is why Jefferson Lerma was allowed to use a cloth to dry the ball before the throw-in that led to Crystal Palace's last-minute winner against Liverpool on Saturday."


This is a report by the BBC. I can't see many clubs agreeing to the use of towels unless they too have a long throw specialist. And even then, theyre only benefitting the highest scorers in the league more by doing so.

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[Terry_dactyl]

"Arsenal's Riccardo Calafiori was stopped by referee Jarred Gillet from using a towel to dry the ball before taking a throw-in against Newcastle United - but why?

It's because of the Premier League's rules around the multi-ball system.

Clubs have to agree to the availability of towels around the field of play before the match. If both clubs fail to come to an agreement, towels cannot be used.

As both Newcastle and Arsenal did not agree to the use of towels, the referee could step in to prevent the Italian from using one before taking his throw-in.

However, if the clubs do come to an agreement, players can use towels during matches.

That is why Jefferson Lerma was allowed to use a cloth to dry the ball before the throw-in that led to Crystal Palace's last-minute winner against Liverpool on Saturday."


This is a report by the BBC. I can't see many clubs agreeing to the use of towels unless they too have a long throw specialist. And even then, theyre only benefitting the highest scorers in the league more by doing so.

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Sometimes football is really daft.

 

[TomRad85]

"Arsenal's Riccardo Calafiori was stopped by referee Jarred Gillet from using a towel to dry the ball before taking a throw-in against Newcastle United - but why?

It's because of the Premier League's rules around the multi-ball system.

Clubs have to agree to the availability of towels around the field of play before the match. If both clubs fail to come to an agreement, towels cannot be used.

As both Newcastle and Arsenal did not agree to the use of towels, the referee could step in to prevent the Italian from using one before taking his throw-in.

However, if the clubs do come to an agreement, players can use towels during matches.

That is why Jefferson Lerma was allowed to use a cloth to dry the ball before the throw-in that led to Crystal Palace's last-minute winner against Liverpool on Saturday."


This is a report by the BBC. I can't see many clubs agreeing to the use of towels unless they too have a long throw specialist. And even then, theyre only benefitting the highest scorers in the league more by doing so.

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Have fans wearing shirts made of towell material scattered among the front row of the ground.

 

[LastChance]

I had a feeling it was banned, just got this info from Google ...
Yes, the English Football League (EFL) has banned the use of towels to dry the ball for throw-ins, but the Premier League has not. The EFL ban, which took effect for the 2023-24 season, was implemented to stop time-wasting and was accompanied by a new multi-ball system.

Premier League: The Premier League has not followed suit with a ban. While a Premier League player has recently been stopped from using a towel, this reflects recent enforcement of a grey area rather than a formal rule change.
Why the ban? The primary reason for the ban in the EFL is to prevent time-wasting by players who might otherwise take time to dry the ball.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Id bring in a timer for throws like we’ve got now for keepers, it would completely remove the long throw from the game but thats a price worth paying imo.

Why?!

 

[shmmeee]

Why?!

Just sick of the time wasting and long throws are boring when you’re up against them. Birmingham the other season when we had to wait for the big lump to wander up and take it each time. Yawn. Throw ins should IMO be more part of the game flow than free kicks. Though I’d also stop not allowing quick free kicks for similar reasons. Basically I like watching football not men in shorts stood about. Like the back pass rule I think it would make the game better.

 

[Calista]

Id bring in a timer for throws like we’ve got now for keepers, it would completely remove the long throw from the game but thats a price worth paying imo.

It needn't completely eliminate the tactic, just require people to get on with it in a reasonable time. Depends how long you allow of course, but some of them do seem to take ages, and is that time added on at the end?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Just sick of the time wasting and long throws are boring when you’re up against them. Birmingham the other season when we had to wait for the big lump to wander up and take it each time. Yawn. Throw ins should IMO be more part of the game flow than free kicks. Though I’d also stop not allowing quick free kicks for similar reasons. Basically I like watching football not men in shorts stood about. Like the back pass rule I think it would make the game better.

Yes good idea lets take away one of our biggest threats as you have a short attention span.

 

[shmmeee]

It needn't completely eliminate the tactic, just require people to get on with it in a reasonable time. Depends how long you allow of course, but some of them do seem to take ages, and is that time added on at the end?

Like 10-15 seconds would be fine. Maybe have a timer start from when they’ve got the ball. I dunno. Just hurry up.

 

[Calista]

Throw ins should IMO be more part of the game flow than free kicks.

Yeah nobody has committed an offence they need to be punished for, it's just getting the ball back into play after it's gone out.

I am also very sceptical that the existing rules are even being applied. People are clearly striding and chucking it off one foot.