Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?
Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?I had a feeling it was banned, just got this info from Google ...
Yes, the English Football League (EFL) has banned the use of towels to dry the ball for throw-ins, but the Premier League has not. The EFL ban, which took effect for the 2023-24 season, was implemented to stop time-wasting and was accompanied by a new multi-ball system.
Premier League: The Premier League has not followed suit with a ban. While a Premier League player has recently been stopped from using a towel, this reflects recent enforcement of a grey area rather than a formal rule change.
Why the ban? The primary reason for the ban in the EFL is to prevent time-wasting by players who might otherwise take time to dry the ball.
Again though most of the delay is down to referees isn't it?Yeah nobody has committed an offence they need to be punished for, it's just getting the ball back into play after it's gone out.
I am also very sceptical that the existing rules are even being applied. People are clearly striding and chucking it off one foot.
A fair point, similar to what shmmeee said about allowing quick free kicks. The other team has committed an offence, why should you be prevented from taking it as soon as you want?Again though most of the delay is down to referees isn't it?
Yeah I agree with that one, but a throw in is not an offense,we should absolutely use both and spring a surprise.A fair point, similar to what shmmeee said about allowing quick free kicks. The other team has committed an offence, why should you be prevented from taking it as soon as you want?
I spotted the young guy on the dugout side using his coat to dry the ball for Milan - top briefingShould be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?
Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?
Just sick of the time wasting and long throws are boring when you’re up against them. Birmingham the other season when we had to wait for the big lump to wander up and take it each time. Yawn. Throw ins should IMO be more part of the game flow than free kicks. Though I’d also stop not allowing quick free kicks for similar reasons. Basically I like watching football not men in shorts stood about. Like the back pass rule I think it would make the game better.
It's not really time wasting though, is it? It's not like we're trying to run the clock down by MVE running from the right hand side to the left to take a throw on.
No real difference between that and Grimes coming from midfield position to take a corner. Where do you draw the line?
Yes stupid and unnecessary. Think a few of our bookings have been daft eg Haji kicking the ball away.We are going to miss that delivery against Wrexham, that booking MvE picked up was so frustrating.
Are teams allowed towels now? Never see them now.I don’t think there’s anything rational about it, it’s just like people who don’t like teams who keep a lot of possession at the back.
I find waiting for the throw-in taker to trot over to the touchline (and then towel off the ball, and then organise the players, and then take a big run up etc) to be quite annoying I guess.
no they are not. But can still use the shirt. Or gloves.Are teams allowed towels now? Never see them now.
Remember the Stoke player who used to send long throws in low like a bullet.
No because you will start getting a home team bias. Ball boys should just put the ball on the cone. Ball boys/persons should have minimal responsibility to avoid any blame. Players should retrieve the ball, not kids. The kids job is to retrieve the balls the players can’t be arsed to get.Should be the job of ball boys to dry each ball as it is placed on it's station then hopefully most will be dry?
Since when have players took a free kick from the right place or took them as quickly as possibleI'm not a fan of throw-ins, period. They ought to be kick-ins. Most throw-ins are awful, and officials don't seem to bother enforcing basic rules anymore like both feet still on the ground, from fully behind the head, don't encroach onto the field of play, and the inevitable time wasting of the entire ordeal. Just do a kick-in. Ever since I've been a kid I've held this opinion. For a game called football why in the world were throw-ins developed.
A free kick then, every time the ball goes out of play? That would completely devalue actual free kicks and corners.I'm not a fan of throw-ins, period. They ought to be kick-ins.
He’s also our main threat from set pieces…Bobby Thomas has a long throw too. I assume he's not used it as much as he could because of his playing position, but I seem to recall it was a quite handy weapon at his previous clubs.
I thought I heard pitchside towels were banned? Did I imagine that?I have been watching MVE and his long throws quite a bit recently. He usually tends to want a fresh ball or to wipe it dry with the inside of his shirt. No problem. However, a little training and the supply of some hand towels for the ball boys would ensure he always gets a dry ball, and if they could be 'forgetful' to do the same for the opposition it would be great.
Not sure he has a playing position anymore. Last week we were 3-1 up with a few minutes left and he was flagged offside.Bobby Thomas has a long throw too. I assume he's not used it as much as he could because of his playing position, but I seem to recall it was a quite handy weapon at his previous clubs.
I thought I heard pitchside towels were banned? Did I imagine that?
Ok, goalies can't handle the ball then.I'm not a fan of throw-ins, period. They ought to be kick-ins. Most throw-ins are awful, and officials don't seem to bother enforcing basic rules anymore like both feet still on the ground, from fully behind the head, don't encroach onto the field of play, and the inevitable time wasting of the entire ordeal. Just do a kick-in. Ever since I've been a kid I've held this opinion. For a game called football why in the world were throw-ins developed.
10 seconds to get the ball in the box from throw ins, corners, free kicks and goal kicks, the penalty is a turnover.See the sky boys were running with this today IFAB looking at this apparently okay, probably something introduced next season to make redress, time limit apparently, like Corners too, again it's mostly refs that cause it.
Anyway they what are they going to do with other play which is affected by hands like continually holding or even turning the player around which I think Gavin Ward gave as a FK, but that is the exception not the rule?
As I've said before, stop the clock and arseing about getting the ball back into play becomes less of an issue.10 seconds to get the ball in the box from throw ins, corners, free kicks and goal kicks, the penalty is a turnover.
In basketball there’s a time limit to get the ball in play and their clock stops each time the ball goes out of bounds.
Who wants to see players piss about and take a minute to get the ball back in play?
TBF I do,as long as we score, again I'd argue it is the referee's that are equally if not majorly holding up- the play,that also would make no difference in that Norwich game at all.10 seconds to get the ball in the box from throw ins, corners, free kicks and goal kicks, the penalty is a turnover.
In basketball there’s a time limit to get the ball in play and their clock stops each time the ball goes out of bounds.
Who wants to see players piss about and take a minute to get the ball back in play?
As I've said before, stop the clock and arseing about getting the ball back into play becomes less of an issue.
I was wondering if you could make it so that the player nearest the ball has to take throw-ins and they get a yellow if they try and walk/run away. Of course without further rules it wouldn't stop them just standing there with the ball for ages as ref's seem very unwilling to book players for timewasting for most of a match. And never once they've already been booked.
I’ve long been an advocate of this. But would it lead to teams wasting time to get a breather more safe in the knowledge they won’t be punished?
You’d do both. Stop the clock and put a time limit to get the ball back in play. A time limit could be implemented next season without requiring quite significant changes.As I've said before, stop the clock and arseing about getting the ball back into play becomes less of an issue.
I was wondering if you could make it so that the player nearest the ball has to take throw-ins and they get a yellow if they try and walk/run away. Of course without further rules it wouldn't stop them just standing there with the ball for ages as ref's seem very unwilling to book players for timewasting for most of a match. And never once they've already been booked.
Have you noticed that football is becoming more ‘territorial?’ Teams are putting the ball out deep in the opposition half to set up the press, it’s something we utilised a bit v Pompey away. Winning the ball from a punt upfield was not the goal, but rather the second ball or hoping Pompey put it out for a throw.Long throws turn throw-ins into a set piece, all for them. If it's all a team ever does then you know it's coming and can prep for it.
Arseing around at the back however, runs a much higher risk than losing possession in the opponent's box. Losing it in your own one is much costlier.
Yeah it did remind me a bit of rugby tactics. There is a clear trend anyway that football is moving away from doing Cruyff turns in your own 6 yard box and back to shooting at the goal and playing in its general direction.Have you noticed that football is becoming more ‘territorial?’ Teams are putting the ball out deep in the opposition half to set up the press, it’s something we utilised a bit v Pompey away. Winning the ball from a punt upfield was not the goal, but rather the second ball or hoping Pompey put it out for a throw.
An interesting tactical innovation but playing for territory is what really turned me off rugby because teams realised possession outside the opposition final third was a ‘net negative’. V different sports mind you, but games became ‘kick tennis’.
Or even better,Yeah it did remind me a bit of rugby tactics. There is a clear trend anyway that football is moving away from doing Cruyff turns in your own 6 yard box and back to shooting at the goal and playing in its general direction.
I don't particularly get why people are opposed to a tactic (long throws) that when done right is on par with a corner.
See the sky boys were running with this today IFAB looking at this apparently okay, probably something introduced next season to make redress, time limit apparently, like Corners too, again it's mostly refs that cause it.
Anyway they what are they going to do with other play which is affected by hands like continually holding or even turning the player around which I think Gavin Ward gave as a FK, but that is the exception not the rule?
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