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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,121
SBT said:
Waghorn has at least given us some kind of return though. Unless you think it’s better to pay someone to do nothing than it is to pay them for an underwhelming job.

If we are indeed still paying Waghorn next season then he may well end up being the worst Robins era signing. Although he seems like a nice guy who tries hard in training though - apparently that’s important to some people.
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As a comparison to Kasta who was shit in training and couldn’t be arsed otherwise
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,122
Deleted member 9744 said:
I think it was Calita.
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Carlita

Calita - Wikipedia

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SBT

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,123
Brighton Sky Blue said:
As a comparison to Kasta who was shit in training and couldn’t be arsed otherwise
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And yet even Kasta managed to do his job better than Hilssner - actually playing football for Coventry City. Did it for less money too.

I know I’m being harsh on a guy who seems to be an honest pro (albeit one who is way out of his depth) but it’s not a popularity contest.
 
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higgs

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,124
How did he ever get a contract at championship level

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Happy_Martian

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,125
Both Drysdale and Burroughs stayed on the bench again for Ross County for their game against Celtic. Ross lost 0-2.

Definitely a wasted loan period for both.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,126
Happy_Martian said:
Both Drysdale and Burroughs stayed on the bench again for Ross County for their game against Celtic. Ross lost 0-2.

Definitely a wasted loan period for both.
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Would we have used them anymore though, I can’t see a use for Drysdale and haven’t seen Burroughs play.
 

Tea & Busquets

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,127
Terry Gibson's perm said:
Would we have used them anymore though, I can’t see a use for Drysdale and haven’t seen Burroughs play.
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Burroughs is quite talented, we should keep him, however Drysdale is beyond it, should be let go. We also have the younger Burroughs in the u23s, who is also quite talented, so I reckon if one leaves the other may want to follow suit.
 

lordy_87

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  • Apr 24, 2022
  • #1,128
Drysdale is abysmal
 

slowpoke

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,129
Grendel said:
Weve had plenty worse than hillsner in terms of wasted money. Kevin Drinkell anyone?
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Could provide a long list Drinkell as you say, Garry Collier, Larry Lloyd, Leigh Jenkinson, Roger Van Goole, Chris Chilton, Sandy Robertson all perils of the transfer market all at the time very large fees and quite possibly highest earners there are more.
In fairness to Hillsner soon after he signed he was diagnosed with Asthma a debilitating condition, perhaps it should have been picked up at his medical but saying he is “stealing” a living is very harsh now it sounds like he has an ACL if that is attatched to his Asthma perhaps we can claim compensation on player insurance we might be doing that now wages wise.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,130
slowpoke said:
Could provide a long list Drinkell as you say, Garry Collier, Larry Lloyd, Leigh Jenkinson, Roger Van Goole, Chris Chilton, Sandy Robertson all perils of the transfer market all at the time very large fees and quite possibly highest earners there are more.
In fairness to Hillsner soon after he signed he was diagnosed with Asthma a debilitating condition, perhaps it should have been picked up at his medical but saying he is “stealing” a living is very harsh now it sounds like he has an ACL if that is attatched to his Asthma perhaps we can claim compensation on player insurance we might be doing that now wages wise.
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Collier and David Jones what a great coup that was at the time
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,131
Grendel said:
Well not poor. He’s managed to get £600,000 pay in 3 years
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I'd have thought you'd consider that poor
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,132
slowpoke said:
Could provide a long list Drinkell as you say, Garry Collier, Larry Lloyd, Leigh Jenkinson, Roger Van Goole, Chris Chilton, Sandy Robertson all perils of the transfer market all at the time very large fees and quite possibly highest earners there are more.
In fairness to Hillsner soon after he signed he was diagnosed with Asthma a debilitating condition, perhaps it should have been picked up at his medical but saying he is “stealing” a living is very harsh now it sounds like he has an ACL if that is attatched to his Asthma perhaps we can claim compensation on player insurance we might be doing that now wages wise.
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Keith O’Neill!
 

slowpoke

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,133
Grendel said:
Collier and David Jones what a great coup that was at the time
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I forgot Jones him and Collier cost us well over half a million quid what would that be the equivalent of today ? Collier played 2 games Jones 11. Think we got a bit back flogging Collier to an American team.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,134
Cowley admitting the walker loan hasn't worked out .. he scored a fair few at Lincoln in his half season but by all accounts he played as a false 9
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,135
slowpoke said:
I forgot Jones him and Collier cost us well over half a million quid what would that be the equivalent of today ? Collier played 2 games Jones 11. Think we got a bit back flogging Collier to an American team.
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Freedom of Contract - Gary Collier and the Ashton Gate Eight - The 1888 Letter

Gary Collier was one of the first players in the Football League to take advantage of full freedom of contract, when leaving Bristol City.
the1888letter.com
 

Kneeza

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,136
Terry_dactyl said:
Keith O’Neill!
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slowpoke said:
Could provide a long list Drinkell as you say, Garry Collier, Larry Lloyd, Leigh Jenkinson, Roger Van Goole, Chris Chilton, Sandy Robertson all perils of the transfer market all at the time very large fees and quite possibly highest earners there are more.
In fairness to Hillsner soon after he signed he was diagnosed with Asthma a debilitating condition, perhaps it should have been picked up at his medical but saying he is “stealing” a living is very harsh now it sounds like he has an ACL if that is attatched to his Asthma perhaps we can claim compensation on player insurance we might be doing that now wages wise.
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Van Gooly-bollocks as my late friend used to call him. He was awful, but I knew people that actually rated him. Nowt so queer as folk.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,137
Kneeza said:
Van Gooly-bollocks as my late friend used to call him. He was awful, but I knew people that actually rated him. Nowt so queer as folk.
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He was very poor for us but I remember him having one quite good game against Leicester at Filbert Street.
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Apr 25, 2022
  • #1,138
slowpoke said:
Could provide a long list Drinkell as you say, Garry Collier, Larry Lloyd, Leigh Jenkinson, Roger Van Goole, Chris Chilton, Sandy Robertson all perils of the transfer market all at the time very large fees and quite possibly highest earners there are more.
In fairness to Hillsner soon after he signed he was diagnosed with Asthma a debilitating condition, perhaps it should have been picked up at his medical but saying he is “stealing” a living is very harsh now it sounds like he has an ACL if that is attatched to his Asthma perhaps we can claim compensation on player insurance we might be doing that now wages wise.
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Runar Norman can be added to the list. I was also going to say Laurent Delorge but apparently he started 28 games in our first season in the championship (although I don't remember anything he did).
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,139
skyblueelephant76 said:
Runar Norman can be added to the list. I was also going to say Laurent Delorge but apparently he started 28 games in our first season in the championship (although I don't remember anything he did).
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Didn’t he start looking like a world beater for a couple of games? Then went back to looking like a panel beater.
 

Kubrick

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,140
slowpoke said:
Could provide a long list Drinkell as you say, Garry Collier, Larry Lloyd, Leigh Jenkinson, Roger Van Goole, Chris Chilton, Sandy Robertson all perils of the transfer market all at the time very large fees and quite possibly highest earners there are more.
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Can’t believe Terry Butcher has escaped this list. Got to have been our highest ever earner (relative at the time). Refused to renegotiate his salary once he retired as a player, after only 6 appearances. Signed his pals and lost the dressing room for good measure.
 
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ovduk78

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,141
Kneeza said:
Van Gooly-bollocks as my late friend used to call him. He was awful, but I knew people that actually rated him. Nowt so queer as folk.
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Try and find the European Cup semi final when he was fantastic for Cologne against Forest at the City Ground.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,142
ovduk78 said:
Try and find the European Cup semi final when he was fantastic for Cologne against Forest at the City Ground.
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He was ripped Forest apart. It was fashionable to buy foriegn at the time most first division clubs had at least one, some good players like Ozzie Ardilles, Arnold Murren, Franz Thysen but as per usual we got the dud.
 

better days

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,143
I really thought this lad would play at the highest level

Josh Pask: Newport County keen to keep defender for next season

Newport County manager James Rowberry is keen to keep Coventry City loan defender Josh Pask for next season.
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The Philosopher

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,144
better days said:
I really thought this lad would play at the highest level

Josh Pask: Newport County keen to keep defender for next season

Newport County manager James Rowberry is keen to keep Coventry City loan defender Josh Pask for next season.
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Pask always seemed ok and had enough physicality about him as well as a good youth background. Did something go on behind the scenes? I put him ahead of Drysdale as back up / squad player.

I guess we will be able to attract better quality as an established Champ team now.
 
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better days

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  • Apr 26, 2022
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The Philosopher said:
Pask always seemed ok and had enough physicality about him as well as a good youth background. Did something go on behind the scenes? I put him ahead of Drysdale as back up / squad player.

I guess we will be able to attract better quality as an established Champ team now.
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I think it's just a question of consistency
On his day he's outstanding but there are too many days when he loses concentration or makes a rash decision
There are many like him in the lower leagues
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,146
The Philosopher said:
Pask always seemed ok and had enough physicality about him as well as a good youth background. Did something go on behind the scenes? I put him ahead of Drysdale as back up / squad player.

I guess we will be able to attract better quality as an established Champ team now.
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Very early developer, those with more talent catched up through the age groups, see it a lot. He’ll have a career in League 2 somewhere.
 
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SAJ

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,147
The Philosopher said:
Pask always seemed ok and had enough physicality about him as well as a good youth background. Did something go on behind the scenes? I put him ahead of Drysdale as back up / squad player.

I guess we will be able to attract better quality as an established Champ team now.
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I can only assume something must have gone on as his face just didn’t seem to fit. Can’t really remember an instance where he totally let us down in games. Seemed fairly reliable and was fairly quick which from a defensive position we aren’t. I remember his first game when he scored at Birmingham and I thought we had a decent player on our hands.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,148
Always liked Pask. Quick, never disgraced himself in his cameo appearances. Hope he makes a decent career for himself.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,149
The Philosopher said:
Pask always seemed ok and had enough physicality about him as well as a good youth background. Did something go on behind the scenes? I put him ahead of Drysdale as back up / squad player.

I guess we will be able to attract better quality as an established Champ team now.
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He was a victim of the clubs success.

It didn't help that he also suffered a bad injury soon after being brought in which kept him out for months. As by the time he returned he was never going to get ahead of Rose/McFadz/Hyam.

Couple that with promotion to the Championship and he just was never going to make the step up.

I wasn't a fan of him last season and thought he looked way out of depth at times but there's definitely a player in there it's just about getting a few seasons under his belt and enhancing his experience.

Best of luck to him wherever he ends up.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,150
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
He was a victim of the clubs success.

It didn't help that he also suffered a bad injury soon after being brought in which kept him out for months. As by the time he returned he was never going to get ahead of Rose/McFadz/Hyam.

Couple that with promotion to the Championship and he just was never going to make the step up.

I wasn't a fan of him last season and thought he looked way out of depth at times but there's definitely a player in there it's just about getting a few seasons under his belt and enhancing his experience.

Best of luck to him wherever he ends up.
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In the early season games MR preferred Dabo at centre back and Da Costa at right back ahead of him. If ever there was a sign the manager doesn’t want to play you…
 

Nick

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,151
Scored more for us than Dabo.
 

SkyBlueSoul

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,152
Nick said:
Scored more for us than Dabo.
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Depends which end you're talking
 
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False9

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,153
Grendel said:
Well not poor. He’s managed to get £600,000 pay in 3 years
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Is there any actual evidence for this claim? Surely he was on peanuts especially considering it was a 3 year deal.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,154
False9 said:
Is there any actual evidence for this claim? Surely he was on peanuts especially considering it was a 3 year deal.
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Skybluebeliever said he was on close to 4k a week

Hilsner Loaned Out!

Room for a replacement now if only a loan. I doubt his wages were much and we are probably still paying some of it
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
 
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rexo87

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  • Apr 26, 2022
  • #1,155
False9 said:
Is there any actual evidence for this claim? Surely he was on peanuts especially considering it was a 3 year deal.
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The insider on here said he's on 4k a week which equates to us shelling out 600k on him. I could be wrong but I think we also paid a transfer fee for him

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