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DT-R · May 4, 2025

There's a LOT of talk around "do you want promotion"? "Won't we just be whipping boys"? "We'll come straight back down"! And so on.
IF we do, by some stretch, manage it. And there's at least 270 minutes of football to go yet, but let's say we do. We have a manager that, against all the odds, with no money and no hope, kept Everton in the league. Yes, we won't be looking at top half finish. No, we won't be anywhere near a chamions league spot. Yes, we'll probably lose most weeks. But just survival in our first season would be huge and a massive stepping stone. If Brighton/Brentford/Bournemouth can do it, then by fuck so can we! You can't have a chance to stay in the premier league if you're not there to begin with!
In Lampard we have a manager, not only with experience in championship play-offs (like us, on the losing side so wanting to right that wrong) but also experience on keeping even the most doomed of clubs up. In Lampard we trust!
Now let's smash the fucking mackums!

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PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 4, 2025

As you said Frank kept Everton up, has some experience up the other end with Chelsea as well.
Also statistically the teams that do the best going up are not the ones that try to dominate possession and pass teams to death its the teams who play counter attacking, high intensity pressing, direct football which we certainly do at times.
I think we’d go straight back down however we’d make something of it and not just be whipping boys every week, I mean we’ve beat Wolves and Man Utd already and took the game to Spurs, we’ve got every chance.
However we’d come down a lot better off, parachute payments, stronger squad, better infrastructure etc

rob9872 · May 5, 2025

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
As you said Frank kept Everton up, has some experience up the other end with Chelsea as well.
Also statistically the teams that do the best going up are not the ones that try to dominate possession and pass teams to death its the teams who play counter attacking, high intensity pressing, direct football which we certainly do at times.
I think we’d go straight back down however we’d make something of it and not just be whipping boys every week, I mean we’ve beat Wolves and Man Utd already and took the game to Spurs, we’ve got every chance.
However we’d come down a lot better off, parachute payments, stronger squad, better infrastructure etc

We've also beat Everton preseason and had results against other prem teams in recent seasons v Burnley, Leeds, Forest, Fulham, Bournemouth and all 3 relegated sides

Lamps · May 5, 2025

Better to have lost than never loved.

We shouldn't be worried or scared about getting promotion. It would be difficult at times knowing you can get thumped in any game. But it happens anyway. Does anyone remember Yeovil in League 2?

As long as we kept realistic we could still have fun. Go to grounds many of us haven't seen. Have a chance of causing upsets. See what Lampard can do with his contacts as there's many capable young players at bug clubs that need the experience. We have a few players that could well hold their own against many sides.

And IF or When we came back down we arrive with a stronger squad with a few pennies in the bank we could become a side that plays at the top end of the Championship.

Sbarcher · May 5, 2025

And by that time Doug would have bailed out and we would have a billionaire owner who wants to throw money at us.

Ashdown · May 5, 2025

How much money would Doug have taken with him though?!

Colin Steins Smile · May 5, 2025

Personally, I would have a free season ticket…, so I’m all in favour

Gynnsthetonic · May 5, 2025

rob9872 said:
We've also beat Everton preseason and had results against other prem teams in recent seasons v Burnley, Leeds, Forest, Fulham, Bournemouth and all 3 relegated sides

Last year we beat Wolves and Man U, this year should of beat Spurs really. We'll think about this when it happens though

shmmeee · May 5, 2025

It’s all about picking up ten wins from the 14 games against the rest of the bottom 8, that’s Everton, Wolves, Spurs, Man Utd, West Ham and the promoted teams. Different kettle of fish in a league game to a friendly or a cup match and 30/42 points is a tough ask but do that, get a few draws and maybe one win against the rest and you’re in with a shout.

Im not sure you do it from where we are without a massive squad rebuild though. Look how far we are off Leeds and Burnley before you get to anyone else.

covcity4life · May 5, 2025

Any one that says they wouldn't want to get promoted to the premier League simply doesn't love the club imo

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · May 5, 2025

I’m in the “we’ll worry about that when we’re there” category

We want into the premier league, and be amongst the elite.

anyone who doesn’t want this isn’t a sports fan

clint van damme · May 5, 2025

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
I’m in the “we’ll worry about that when we’re there” category

We want into the premier league, and be amongst the elite.

anyone who doesn’t want this isn’t a sports fan

We might beat the record low points tally, we might stay up on goal difference.
lets get there and find out and if its the former, then the consolation is the parachute money can trsnsform the club.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · May 5, 2025

clint van damme said:
We might beat the record low points tally, we might stay up on goal difference.
lets get there and find out and if its the former, then the consolation is the parachute money can trsnsform the club.

Ultimately you want to be in that group of clubs that’s cut off from the rest of the championship. That way you’re up and down every 2 years.

basically join Burnley. I’m also convinced we’re well placed to get a major takeover if we get into the premier league

clint van damme · May 5, 2025

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Ultimately you want to be in that group of clubs that’s cut off from the rest of the championship. That way you’re up and down every 2 years.

basically join Burnley. I’m also convinced we’re well placed to get a major takeover if we get into the premier league

Agree. Realistically the way to a prolonged stay in the top flight is to yo yo for a few years .

Of course we might stay up and first time of asking but it is a big ask

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 5, 2025

1ppg should keep you up, 38pts should be the target to guarentee staying in the PL then if we do get there before gw38 push on from there

Super Frank · May 5, 2025

Seems like the parachute money makes promotion a no brainer no matter what happens.

Cally Fedora · May 5, 2025

Of course we want promotion. It has to be the ambition.

Sky Blue Goblin · May 5, 2025

Ashdown said:
How much money would Doug have taken with him though?!

Assume he takes his interest free loan amount plus the amount he’d of made on the club. Fair enough imo

Liquid Gold · May 5, 2025

Go up and do the impossible and stay up and its dreamland. Do the expected and come back down and the club is fucking loaded.

Happy either way.

DT-R · May 5, 2025

Ashdown said:
How much money would Doug have taken with him though?!

If we've just got new billionaire owners, who the fuck cares how much money Doug takes with him?

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Adge · May 5, 2025

It’s a grin and bear it situation if we manage to get to the Prem. We would take a fair few hammerings and most likely come straight back down. I’ve heard people say we’re better off where we are-so on that basis shall we just morph into a Preston and languish in bottom to mid-table in the Championship year in year out? I love the Championship as much as the next man, but if that’s the case then we might aswell just call it a day fold the club if we’ve got no aspirations.

ptr · May 5, 2025

DT-R said:
There's a LOT of talk around "do you want promotion"? "Won't we just be whipping boys"? "We'll come straight back down"! And so on.
IF we do, by some stretch, manage it. And there's at least 270 minutes of football to go yet, but let's say we do. We have a manager that, against all the odds, with no money and no hope, kept Everton in the league. Yes, we won't be looking at top half finish. No, we won't be anywhere near a chamions league spot. Yes, we'll probably lose most weeks. But just survival in our first season would be huge and a massive stepping stone. If Brighton/Brentford/Bournemouth can do it, then by fuck so can we! You can't have a chance to stay in the premier league if you're not there to begin with!
In Lampard we have a manager, not only with experience in championship play-offs (like us, on the losing side so wanting to right that wrong) but also experience on keeping even the most doomed of clubs up. In Lampard we trust!
Now let's smash the fucking mackums!

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I’m sorry but Doug said top 6 deck, didn’t specify what league.

Europa League push or I’m gone. SISU out.

Fergusons_Beard · May 5, 2025

I have been asked the question loads by friends who are fans of other teams.

My response has been-

Yes but only to be more competitive in the championship (with the parachute payments) but also to visit the grounds that I haven’t been to in 25 years!
Be interested to see Frank deal tactically in the prem too.

The only thing I wouldn’t look forward to is the constant drivel from the negative bunch who for some reason would be expecting us to be challenging for the top four if we did go up.

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Ashdown · May 5, 2025

DT-R said:
If we've just got new billionaire owners, who the fuck cares how much money Doug takes with him?

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We haven’t got new billionaire owners !!

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