And here we go with the self proclaimed intelligent person dishing out personal insults.
Does Led Reid get paid for reporting on CCC - Ccfc matters? Yes
Will his employer make more money if more people read it? Yes.
Will increased revenues for the observer allow them to pay their journalists more? Probably.
Its you two that are suggesting that what actually happens is journalists work for free, newspapers don't try and make money, and businesses hope that no one will see their adverts.
It's perfect logic. You mentioned vested interests first in this thread ahead of anything else. So yes you brought it up first.
How is that not logical someone help me out here.
Where have I self proclaimed to be intelligent? (although I am)
You though are a dumb fuck. I wouldnt insult you if you werent being one, with your conspiracy crap. If you disgree with what I said so be it.
How am I trying to promote a conspiracy? I'm talking about excepted facts of the world.
Its you two that are suggesting that what actually happens is journalists work for free, newspapers don't try and make money, and businesses hope that no one will see their adverts.
If that isn't a conspiracy theory I don't know what is.
It's perfect logic. You mentioned vested interests first in this thread ahead of anything else. So yes you brought it up first.
How is that not logical someone help me out here.
Fuck me this thread is depressing.
Reid's journalism is shit because, aside for them spelling and grammar mistakes, he writes full of loaded language (always "Labour led council" never just "council", always "Ms Seppala" but not "Ms Lucas", putting ironic quote marks around spokesperson when the council gave a statement) and he doesn't actually back up his point, instead relying of supposition and handing over half the article to someone with an axe to grind.
I mean FFS if Dave Nellist is the best you've got you've hardly got a story.
It's terrible journalism on its own merits, never mind who he supports.
His attitude to anyone who questions him and the quickness to spread rumours about those he disagrees with also mark him out as a pretty disposable human being.
*awaits response ignoring all the points put forward and instead insisting its a conspiracy because he's not saying the right things*
So when he said there are people on here with a vested interest, he is correct because Simon is on here? So the outrage is for nothing?
Where have I self proclaimed to be intelligent? (although I am)
You though are a dumb fuck. I wouldnt insult you if you werent being one, with your conspiracy crap. If you disgree with what I said so be it.
Fuck me this thread is depressing.
Reid's journalism is shit because, aside for them spelling and grammar mistakes, he writes full of loaded language (always "Labour led council" never just "council", always "Ms Seppala" but not "Ms Lucas", putting ironic quote marks around spokesperson when the council gave a statement) and he doesn't actually back up his point, instead relying of supposition and handing over half the article to someone with an axe to grind.
I mean FFS if Dave Nellist is the best you've got you've hardly got a story.
It's terrible journalism on its own merits, never mind who he supports.
His attitude to anyone who questions him and the quickness to spread rumours about those he disagrees with also mark him out as a pretty disposable human being.
*awaits response ignoring all the points put forward and instead insisting its a conspiracy because he's not saying the right things*
Your a very rude man.
I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was asking carefully planned questions to make you admit that you are discrediting him based on accusations rather than the content of his work. If you really think that I think he is working for free then you are slower than I thought.
So you were wumming?
The thing that frustrates me the most lately is the fact you have to read Simon Gilbert's stories to hear "the council side" and Les Reid's stories to hear "the sisu side". There doesn't seem to be a middle ground at the moment. Les is a good journalist but his lack of professionalism and his twitter antics mean quite a few people, including myself, have no respect for him. He hasn't blocked me on twitter, but I have tried to question him a few times about things. Only ever got 1 response, but generally I am ignored.
Didn't someone do a test where they tweeted him questioning his journalism, and then an hour later tweeted him about how amazing he was? The first was ignored, the 2nd was re-tweeted. Embarrassing.
Fuck me this thread is depressing.
Reid's journalism is shit because, aside for them spelling and grammar mistakes, he writes full of loaded language (always "Labour led council" never just "council", always "Ms Seppala" but not "Ms Lucas", putting ironic quote marks around spokesperson when the council gave a statement) and he doesn't actually back up his point, instead relying of supposition and handing over half the article to someone with an axe to grind.
I mean FFS if Dave Nellist is the best you've got you've hardly got a story.
It's terrible journalism on its own merits, never mind who he supports.
His attitude to anyone who questions him and the quickness to spread rumours about those he disagrees with also mark him out as a pretty disposable human being.
*awaits response ignoring all the points put forward and instead insisting its a conspiracy because he's not saying the right things*
Some might well have been city fans. But they are still journalists for a paper who's main aim is to sell/distribute more papers.
Or do you think they all did the job out of the goodness of their heart? Lol.
Foulger supported Leicester, didn't he?
Foulger supported Leicester, didn't he?
So what if he did?
everton fan!
The thing that frustrates me the most lately is the fact you have to read Simon Gilbert's stories to hear "the council side" and Les Reid's stories to hear "the sisu side". There doesn't seem to be a middle ground at the moment.
There would be very few Coventry fans out there who would encourage SISU to negotiate in the fashion they chose to.
Then be outraged when once the plan fails the council decide to do business elsewhere.
Well clearly there is.
It just highlights that his "vested interest" is in selling newspapers and advancing his career.
Have Dong and Grendel almost agreed on something?
I have no axe to grind
He's a fair enough journalist comes at things a little one sided
But he can be wrong like most of us
Take his big opinion piece back in the day full of analysis but the conclusion was off
Saying the only way they would ever bring the team back would be as Stadium owners
You appear to be describing newsagents and journalists alike.
That doesn't really stand up to scrutiny at the Cov Tel end in my opinion. It has become a narrative which only serves to mask the less balanced style of others.
Remember, we broke the story about ACL's losses and questioned Ann Lucas on her "profitable" claims a couple of days before anyone else caught up.
In my view, all parties have come in for criticism through Coventry Telegraph articles at various points. But, more tellingly, all sides continue to come in for criticism when appropriate. The only agenda we have is the news agenda.
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