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So it's about his choices rather than positions? If he had bought a striker and defender he would have invested in both
So it's about his choices rather than positions? If he had bought a striker and defender he would have invested in bothUnless he's playing centre back I'm not sure I would. We've brought in strikers already, it's not really where we are short.
How do you know it's lack of investment though rather than robins having different priorities?And Im more concerned our transfer policy results in a lack of experience in vital areas.
But fuck it, let's ask how much McNulty cost again.
Er yes I did. Read.Your.Post.
Hence me asking when was the last time we spent a million for a player?
Can I also add that we have only one loan.(From Chelsea!)
Also I mentioned (as have others) about on-costs -significant even for frees or apparent low cost transfers.
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Now who's talking nonsense. We desperately needed a left back and bought in two good players for that position, both on free transfers. We needed to strengthen at centre mid and we bought in Ogogo on a free. At our level, free transfers are the norm for the majority of clubs.Exactly, it's like they haven't actually read the posts they're replying to at all.
You don't find the sort of player I believe we need for free or cheap at this point. Ergo we needed to spend and didn't. Nothing to do with million pound players or frees at the start of the window.
Which purchases have shamed us? Posh have replaced Marriott with a poorer version in Toney, B Rovers have bought Payne (wanted Bakayoko)...I'll never understand why so many of our fans are always so keen to defend the lack of investment that goes into our playing squad in comparison to the money brought in. Just because we've had some good players come in on a free and some paid fees for some poor players doesn't negate the fact that you're much more likely to get a decent player if you're purchasing them from someone else as opposed to picking up scraps. The moment McNulty was sold we should have done what Reading have done to us and gone and bought Doidge or someone of that ilk. Someone with a proven track record of scoring goals, not multiple players with 'potential'. Signing players who might be good in a few years is fine, but you need to have some actual proven players in there as well to ensure that you're going to have a good chance at a positive season. Some of the players brought in by our League One rivals today put us to shame.
Ok shouty boy, keep your Alan Wickers on mate, its just a forum.
The question is relevant though. Was zero spent on McNulty a lack of investment also? If the nominal fees spent on the 2 new front lads yields similar goal ratios then that is fantastic investment, not a lack of it. (remains to be seen of course)
So it's about his choices rather than positions? If he had bought a striker and defender he would have invested in both
We are short of a defender. Another striker would be a nice to have.
Most of those were undisclosed fees and Holmes has only moved on loan. I think calling them 'great signings' is overstating it somewhat too. We beat several clubs to the signings of Ogogo and Brown and it looks as though Mason and Allisani are handy as well. Supposedly Sterling chose to come to us on loan over a couple of championship teams.Colclough to Scunthorpe, Toney to Peterborough, Ricky Holmes to Oxford, Stefan Payne to Bristol Rovers and Ollie Norburn to Shrewsbury all great signings and either loans or within the price range we've been offering for Chaplin.
What are your views on the strikers we have?We have 5 strikers already - 4 signed by robins
Obviously I am talking about league one/two level. Free transfers or small transfer fees are the norm at this level is the point im makingNot completely true is it. Man City have done OK since splashing the cash. I know what you are saying but it's rare to get a McNulty for free.
Pompey press are reporting we'd offered 375k for Chaplin, that would have landed pretty much all of those and I think they'd all have improved our team, especially Colclough (lacking RW depth), Holmes (lacking attacking midfield depth) and Toney (although suspect if any are out of our price range it would be him).Most of those were undisclosed fees and Holmes has only moved on loan. I think calling them 'great signings' is overstating it somewhat too. We beat several clubs to the signings of Ogogo and Brown and it looks as though Mason and Allisani are handy as well. Supposedly Sterling chose to come to us on loan over a couple of championship teams.
Toney is a decent player but he will have cost biggish money that we don't have.
Now who's talking nonsense. We desperately needed a left back and bought in two good players for that position, both on free transfers. We needed to strengthen at centre mid and we bought in Ogogo on a free. At our level, free transfers are the norm for the majority of clubs.
We have 5 strikers already - 4 signed by robins
Pompey press are reporting we'd offered 375k for Chaplin, that would have landed pretty much all of those and I think they'd all have improved our team, especially Colclough (lacking RW depth), Holmes (lacking attacking midfield depth) and Toney (although suspect if any are out of our price range it would be him).
We have 5 strikers already - 4 signed by robins
Apologies, just getting sick of people not understanding that it's not about the size of the fee. It's also not about the players we have signed, it's about the gaps still left (one in particular which is not up front).
What are your views on the strikers we have?
Agree.Not sure any of those are positions of massive need to be honest.
Thats not about investment then? Its MR seeing other positions as priority.
I know you agree that we are short on defensive cover from your posts over the last few days.
I'll never understand why so many of our fans are always so keen to defend the lack of investment that goes into our playing squad in comparison to the money brought in. Just because we've had some good players come in on a free and some paid fees for some poor players doesn't negate the fact that you're much more likely to get a decent player if you're purchasing them from someone else as opposed to picking up scraps. The moment McNulty was sold we should have done what Reading have done to us and gone and bought Doidge or someone of that ilk. Someone with a proven track record of scoring goals, not multiple players with 'potential'. Signing players who might be good in a few years is fine, but you need to have some actual proven players in there as well to ensure that you're going to have a good chance at a positive season. Some of the players brought in by our League One rivals today put us to shame.
Well, yes, free transfers still cost money. I suspect he hasn't been able to get anyone of the right quality, in which case letting Rod go was a mistake.
We are but most people are foaming at the mouth at selling a striker for over s million - not a defender for a bag of crisps
I still think Robins believes we're a striker short too but can't say we don't have options.
Which is odd as he’s signed 3 and sold 1
Rod wouldn't have made the bench as Thompson has been promoted ahead of him. So can't really see how letting him go, for a fee no less, is a mistake?Well, yes, free transfers still cost money. I suspect he hasn't been able to get anyone of the right quality, in which case letting Rod go was a mistake.
Not sure why else he'd leave the number 10 free. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Having players with potential is good, and so is managing the club well financially, but we've brought in a significant amount of cash this pre-season thanks to the Maddison sell on, the McNulty sale and on top of that the extra revenue from last season's promotion and cup run and it feels like we could have done a lot more with it to give ourselves a better chance of a successful season. The noises coming out of the club are that we're aiming for promotion again this season, but has the business done since McNulty was sold really reflected that?
I think from a L1 perspective, if we've signed a freebie and sold him on for 1.2m and then paid fees for prospects in the same position (in line with the business model), you can't honestly call that lack of investment. The CB situation is another thing and may yet be resolved through the loan/free route.
That’s nonsense. Right wing absolutely okPompey press are reporting we'd offered 375k for Chaplin, that would have landed pretty much all of those and I think they'd all have improved our team, especially Colclough (lacking RW depth), Holmes (lacking attacking midfield depth) and Toney (although suspect if any are out of our price range it would be him).
And Im more concerned our transfer policy results in a lack of experience in vital areas.
But fuck it, let's ask how much McNulty cost again.
I'm more concerned that the policy is one that isn't one where you see the signings & say, yeah they're trying to get promoted again. Its not really at that level is it?
I like the squad he's put together - if he filled the No 10 with a top notch loan, I'd be happy with what we've got (maybe a centre back extra - but not too fussed if Willis stays fit)
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