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Transfer Rumour Kaine Kesler-Hayden (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Jun 30, 2025
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Balli001

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #316
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Unless of course he signs a new contract.
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Why would he? Potential to get a much bigger move both financially and football wise. Same reasons gyokeres and hamer didn't sign contracts
 
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CovRes

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #317
Captain Dart said:
Were Bidwell and JDS in these vids?
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They've both appeared in videos or photos released by the club.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #318
Captain Dart said:
Were Bidwell and JDS in these vids?
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they both appeared in the first days videos
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #319
Balli001 said:
Why would he? Potential to get a much bigger move both financially and football wise. Same reasons gyokeres and hamer didn't sign contracts
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Chances are he won't I'm just saying his value stays higher for us if he signs a new contract. However I don't see him in the category of Hamer or Vik as a player.
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #320
SkyBlueStallion_89 said:
The screamer he score against Leeds for Preston... He was playing RB, cut in and smashed it with his left so he's strong with both feet, KKH down the left/MVE down the right
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I can feel a song coming on my!
 

Lamps

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #321
Balli001 said:
From the club's point of view it is the right time. It's the last chance to get a huge fee before he goes into the final year of his contract.
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Like we were only going to get a small amount for Gyokeres and Hamer?

He would still be under contract. And he might be under contract with a club that's just got up to the prem. He is still only 24 so value can go up as well as down. A good season for us and he would be in the shop window. Only takes 2 sides to be interested.

I'm all for selling anyone at the right price as long as it gets put back into the squad. But I'm also for keeping our best players when we can.
 

Lamps

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #322
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Chances are he won't I'm just saying his value stays higher for us if he signs a new contract. However I don't see him in the category of Hamer or Vik as a player.
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It's unfair to use Gyokeres as an example. I would say after he signs his next contract his value will be above Hamer at present. Another good season and he will catch the eye of many more.
 

SkyBlueStallion_89

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #323
wingy said:
I can feel a song coming on my!
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Lol to the tune of stealers wheels... Kaine down the left us, Milan down the right lol
 
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Balli001

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #324
Lamps said:
Like we were only going to get a small amount for Gyokeres and Hamer?

He would still be under contract. And he might be under contract with a club that's just got up to the prem. He is still only 24 so value can go up as well as down. A good season for us and he would be in the shop window. Only takes 2 sides to be interested.

I'm all for selling anyone at the right price as long as it gets put back into the squad. But I'm also for keeping our best players when we can.
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So say we dont go up. His value immediately has decreased having only 12 months left. We all know money will be reinvested im not sure why anyone currently thinks differently. We all want him to stay but we have to also be realistic about when is the best time to sell, especially now we have a potential replacement in the squad
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #325
CovRes said:
They've both appeared in videos or photos released by the club.
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Ahh yes sure but I meant were they playing in the vids featuring KKH playing on the left. If so what positions were they in.
 
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Hobo

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  • Jul 4, 2025
  • #326
Captain Dart said:
Were Bidwell and JDS in these vids?
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In goal
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #327
Balli001 said:
So say we dont go up. His value immediately has decreased having only 12 months left. We all know money will be reinvested im not sure why anyone currently thinks differently. We all want him to stay but we have to also be realistic about when is the best time to sell, especially now we have a potential replacement in the squad
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.... but his value doesn't automatically decrease! The same argument was falsely made for selling Hamer and Gyokores when they had 2 years left on their contracts, when some on here were saying take £8m for Gyokores and £5m for Hamer. Instead we got an extra year's service out of 2 exceptional players, and made an extra £25m on the pair of them.
 
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Lamps

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #328
Balli001 said:
So say we dont go up. His value immediately has decreased having only 12 months left. We all know money will be reinvested im not sure why anyone currently thinks differently. We all want him to stay but we have to also be realistic about when is the best time to sell, especially now we have a potential replacement in the squad
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Would you accept 10m now? I wouldn't. If a good offer comes in we would need to consider it.

A player with 2 years left on a contract is worth about the same as a player with 1 year left. You just have less options on keeping the player for longer.
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #329
Lamps said:
Would you accept 10m now? I wouldn't. If a good offer comes in we would need to consider it.

A player with 2 years left on a contract is worth about the same as a player with 1 year left. You just have less options on keeping the player for longer.
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Yes I would. We already have his replacement and 10 mil for a full back at this level is very good money. And having 2 years left over 1 is a significant difference in value. Teams wouldn't bother bidding high for a player they could get for nothing 12 months later. If gyokeres or hamer had longer left we would have got a lot more let's be honest.
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #330
Lamps said:
Would you accept 10m now? I wouldn't. If a good offer comes in we would need to consider it.

A player with 2 years left on a contract is worth about the same as a player with 1 year left. You just have less options on keeping the player for longer.
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No that would represent poor business for us and fundermentally undervaluing an asset.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #331
Legia Sky Blue said:
.... but his value doesn't automatically decrease! The same argument was falsely made for selling Hamer and Gyokores when they had 2 years left on their contracts, when some on here were saying take £8m for Gyokores and £5m for Hamer. Instead we got an extra year's service out of 2 exceptional players, and made an extra £25m on the pair of them.
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No one serious was suggesting £8m for Vik and £5m for Hamer
 

Balli001

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #332
ccfc1234 said:
No that would represent poor business for us and fundermentally undervaluing an asset.
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He is worth what someone will pay ultimately.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #333
shmmeee said:
No one serious was suggesting £8m for Vik and £5m for Hamer
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I disagree. It may have been a minority but it was a significant minority and a very vocal one.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #334
shmmeee said:
No one serious was suggesting £8m for Vik and £5m for Hamer
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No but Sisu would have sold them for that amount of money.
 
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Porkchophill

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #335
SkyBlueStallion_89 said:
Lol to the tune of stealers wheels... Kaine down the left us, Milan down the right lol
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Stuck in the middle with Simms
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 5, 2025
  • #336
Topical given Micheal Madson news.
 
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DT-R

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #337
SkyBlueStallion_89 said:
I pray Milan stays but if he does I wouldn't want to be up against the pace of them two down that right side, might witness a few players having a nervous breakdown at the CBS
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Imagine defending MVE for 70mins. Absolutely shattered. His number comes up on the board. You breath a sigh of relief. Thank fuck for that! Then KKH makes his first run past you at speed, its at that point you realise, you've still got 20mins of this! Oh FFS!!!!!


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SkyBlueStallion_89

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #338
DT-R said:
Imagine defending MVE for 70mins. Absolutely shattered. His number comes up on the board. You breath a sigh of relief. Thank fuck for that! Then KKH makes his first run past you at speed, its at that point you realise, you've still got 20mins of this! Oh FFS!!!!!


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Facing either of them at the start of the match or 70 mins in isn't a pleasant experience lol
 

ccfc1234

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #339
Is there a possibility that we don't sign a right winger and KKH, MVE and Saka are the right sided options?

MVE played at right wing vs Wolves in the FA cup and a few other games under Robins.
 

Lamps

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  • Jul 6, 2025
  • #340
ccfc1234 said:
Is there a possibility that we don't sign a right winger and KKH, MVE and Saka are the right sided options?

MVE played at right wing vs Wolves in the FA cup and a few other games under Robins.
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It's possible for anything to happen. We might even have plans to sell MVE but nothing happens.
 
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peteCCFC

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  • Aug 1, 2025
  • #341
Can't imagine he'd have signed thinking he'd be sitting on the bench for the 1st game of the season. Such a strange use of funds with gaping holes elsewhere in the squad.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Aug 1, 2025
  • #342
peteCCFC said:
Can't imagine he'd have signed thinking he'd be sitting on the bench for the 1st game of the season. Such a strange use of funds with gaping holes elsewhere in the squad.
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In fairness, he's not prime Cafu. Going to have to work himself into a starting spot (in whatever position) and work to stay there.
 
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Briles

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  • Aug 1, 2025
  • #343
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Potbellypig said:
In fairness, he's not prime Cafu. Going to have to work himself into a starting spot (in whatever position) and work to stay there.
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Exactly. Like lampard said recently some positions pick themselves due to lack of cover, others need to be competed
 
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bawtryneal

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  • Aug 1, 2025
  • #344
Will be a tough decision for player of the season along with Rudoni this coming year.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Aug 1, 2025
  • #345
Looked equally as good as MVE to me so far - great purchase
 
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Balli001

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  • Aug 2, 2025
  • #346
Rodders1 said:
Looked equally as good as MVE to me so far - great purchase
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I agree. When we signed him i had no doubts at all how good he was. Obviously a lot of fans, rightly, will back Milan as the first choice but it wont take long for KKH to become first choice in my opinion
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Aug 2, 2025
  • #347
If Tats picks up a knock, it's not inconceivable that we might have both playing together down the right. If anything (based on early glimpses) KKH looks slightly more natural in the attacking role than MVE.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Aug 2, 2025
  • #348
Sky Blue Harry H said:
If Tats picks up a knock, it's not inconceivable that we might have both playing together down the right. If anything (based on early glimpses) KKH looks slightly more natural in the attacking role than MVE.
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This is my thinking, probably wrong but if MvE stays then I think we'll have 3 players for 2 positions.

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Nick

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  • Aug 2, 2025
  • #349
Sky Blue Harry H said:
If Tats picks up a knock, it's not inconceivable that we might have both playing together down the right. If anything (based on early glimpses) KKH looks slightly more natural in the attacking role than MVE.
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He tends to make runs our strikers should be making. His goal against Bristol and then he did a couple the other night. Just ran into the space between the full back and centre half
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Aug 2, 2025
  • #350
KKH probably has a higher ceiling than MVE which is scary. But if MVE is here then I’m sure Lampard will find a way to play them both.
 
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