Can imagine we have put a lot of time, effort and money into trying to rehabilitate him. Seemingly not worked. He is now 35.
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He was just 10 though. We surely had to try. Can't just lock him away forever at the age of 10 and throw away the key and besides, Robert Thompson. The other boy, has not re-offended at all since his release. Whatever we did there seems to have worked for him.Waste of time.
He was just 10 though. We surely had to try. Can't just lock him away forever at the age of 10 and throw away the key and besides, Robert Thompson. The other boy, has not re-offended at all since his release. Whatever we did there seems to have worked for him.
This case shows that some people are beyond any help. Simple and cheapest solution would be a bullet in his head.
Well I for one am very glad we live in a country where we don't sentence 10 year old children to death.
Problem seems to me was that we let them out too early, just 8 years into their sentence and it should maybe at least been more gradual.
What they did was horrendous, but they were just children.
Lets face it the prison system is rehabilitating virtually no one. Its also not acting as much of a punishment / deterrent.
Maybe time for a rethink, what are the alternatives?
Would you shoot a ten year old in the head?
Only if I was in Isis or an American citizen. My point, which I'm sure you get, is that one is clearly beyond help despite numerous offences and rehabillitation whereas the other has seemingly kept on the straight and narrow since his conviction.
Can imagine we have put a lot of time, effort and money into trying to rehabilitate him. Seemingly not worked. He is now 35.
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I understand the point, and if you were saying it about an adult I wouldn't bat an eyelid. It's just to say it about a child doesn't sit right with me. But then you think about what they did and it's horrific.
It's one of those thankfully rare cases that the crime, and the reaction to it, really raise some searching questions about the society we live in.
I understand the point, and if you were saying it about an adult I wouldn't bat an eyelid. It's just to say it about a child doesn't sit right with me. But then you think about what they did and it's horrific.
It's one of those thankfully rare cases that the crime, and the reaction to it, really raise some searching questions about the society we live in.
And also of Scott Bradley, who was wrongly mistaken for Robert Thompson and received lots of abuse and subsequently took his own life.I understand the point, and if you were saying it about an adult I wouldn't bat an eyelid. It's just to say it about a child doesn't sit right with me. But then you think about what they did and it's horrific.
It's one of those thankfully rare cases that the crime, and the reaction to it, really raise some searching questions about the society we live in.
Father killed himself after hate mob wrongly accused him of being James Bulger child killer Robert Thompson | Daily Mail OnlineAnd also of Scott Bradley, who was wrongly mistaken for Robert Thompson and received lots of abuse and subsequently took his own life.
No, the problem is he was released due to our rehabilitation efforts deeming him not a danger, (imagine being the person who signed off on that report) The problem being, this is now the 2nd time he has been caught with child pornography on his computer, he is also on his 3rd or 4th identity as he goes around "telling" people who he is... That for me shows that he is probably beyond help and should be put down like thew animal he is.Well I for one am very glad we live in a country where we don't sentence 10 year old children to death.
Problem seems to me was that we let them out too early, just 8 years into their sentence and it should maybe at least been more gradual.
What they did was horrendous, but they were just children.
And also of Scott Bradley, who was wrongly mistaken for Robert Thompson and received lots of abuse and subsequently took his own life.
Well, I am totally and vehemently against capital punishment, so that would be out of the question as far as I am concerned. I do think though that he should be made to work in prison and shouldn't have the privileges of others. I think everything in prison should be earned and educational classes and work should be compulsory for many offenders.No, the problem is he was released due to our rehabilitation efforts deeming him not a danger, (imagine being the person who signed off on that report) The problem being, this is now the 2nd time he has been caught with child pornography on his computer, he is also on his 3rd or 4th identity as he goes around "telling" people who he is... That for me shows that he is probably beyond help and should be put down like thew animal he is.
Well, I am totally and vehemently against capital punishment, so that would be out of the question as far as I am concerned. I do think though that he should be made to work in prison and shouldn't have the privileges of others. I think everything in prison should be earned and educational classes and work should be compulsory for many offenders.
I agree you don’t kill somebody like that because they aren’t scared of death. Any murder, killer, terrorist. Killing them is quick and simple and in most cases they are probably willing to die for what they did. You lock them up for the rest of their lives, and make them live with what they did.
I do believe if you are a child killer you have to be separated from the general prison population, because they really do pick on you and give you a rough ride.What if they aren't bothered or are proud of what they did?
They will then be protected inside so nobody can get to them. It isn't as if they are going to be putting Terrorists in with people who are going to kick the shit out of them day in day out.
Do you have stats for this or is it just your perception?Lets face it the prison system is rehabilitating virtually no one. Its also not acting as much of a punishment / deterrent.
Maybe time for a rethink, what are the alternatives?
Have you any experience Otis? All prisoners have to work doing completely monotonous soul destroying tasks for minimal pay. Many are locked up for 16-18 hours a day. There are educational classes and you would be horrified at the lack of educational ability with many of them. Maybe there’s a link! My experience of our prison system is that it’s fundamentally broken. Utterly broken. The only useful purpose is it keeps some people away from others and they don’t commit crime whilst there apart from against other prisoners. Don’t get me wrong people deserve to be punished but there must be a better wayWell, I am totally and vehemently against capital punishment, so that would be out of the question as far as I am concerned. I do think though that he should be made to work in prison and shouldn't have the privileges of others. I think everything in prison should be earned and educational classes and work should be compulsory for many offenders.
As I've said on here before I've been in prison, but been out twenty years. When I was doing time it was months of boring work and long hours banged up in a cell,shared with 2 others. No complaints though as we deserved to be locked up.Have you any experience Otis? All prisoners have to work doing completely monotonous soul destroying tasks for minimal pay. Many are locked up for 16-18 hours a day. There are educational classes and you would be horrified at the lack of educational ability with many of them. Maybe there’s a link! My experience of our prison system is that it’s fundamentally broken. Utterly broken. The only useful purpose is it keeps some people away from others and they don’t commit crime whilst there apart from against other prisoners. Don’t get me wrong people deserve to be punished but there must be a better way
All they can do is to encourage you to want to change I guess.As I've said on here before I've been in prison, but been out twenty years. When I was doing time it was months of boring work and long hours banged up in a cell,shared with 2 others. No complaints though as we deserved to be locked up.
But prison won't change anybody, you have to change yourself.
Change your thoughts and habits. Worked for me but not for everyone.A mate of mine same age too spent 3years inside, came out last year. He said its no place for blokes our age, I could of told him that years ago !All they can do is to encourage you to want to change I guess.
He was just 10 though. We surely had to try. Can't just lock him away forever at the age of 10 and throw away the key and besides, Robert Thompson. The other boy, has not re-offended at all since his release. Whatever we did there seems to have worked for him.
Shocking to see that some people believe the state should execute a 10 year old child. No doubt they then drone on about Shariah Law when they'd probably fit in quite nicely.
The system seems to have worked for the other one but Venebles should be sentenced indefinitely.
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