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shmmeee

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #36
Garryb80 said:
Mbappe is 19....
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Obviously he’s shit, Pele was 16 once.
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #37
Magwitch said:
I suppose Shipley fits into the boo boy void left vacant by the Ryan Haynes departure.
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Except from the fact that almost all fans like him and he’s actually half decent.
 
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Harry_Walker

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #38
With him being back in September this surely means that Andreu will be back for the start of the season which is very good news
 
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better days

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #39
theferret said:
Never understood that criticism. Cuts inside? Of course, that's exactly what he was there to do. Why else play a very left sided player wide right. It was the whole point. Predictable perhaps, but also effective. Scored against both Notts County and Lincoln switching the ball to his left foot in a wide right position.

Robins got it right with JJ last season, would often switch from right to left during a game, as we saw against NC, scored his 1st two from the right and scored his 3rd playing down the left. Very effective.
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JJ has learnt a lot under Robins and his team
Managers and coaches at other teams have a much higher opinion of JJ than some of our fans although he was winning most fans over prior to his injury
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #40
Garryb80 said:
Still feel he is our weak link. Still doesnt make a challenge and not great on set pieces. With all players fot he wouldnt be in my team for sure
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He did well last season, not consistent but give him the benefit of the doubt.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #41
Jones and Andreu may take time to find form after such a long time out with injury.

Bayliss and Shipley should be thinking the shirt is theirs to lose.

People like Alassani, JCH and Ponticelli should be busting a gut in training and friendlies to start in the team. Last season has gone, its form this season that counts and should shape the team.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #42
Garryb80 said:
Mbappe is 19....
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We should compare all our youngsters to the best young player in the world and bin them off if they don’t compare. Would save loads on academy fees.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #43
Garryb80 said:
Mbappe is 19....
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But he’s never scored a league 2 playoff final at Wembley or a free kick away at Luton!
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jul 1, 2018
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Liquid Gold said:
We should compare all our youngsters to the best young player in the world and bin them off if they don’t compare. Would save loads on academy fees.
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No but the post was claiming we should cut slack because he is only 20..clearly thats just an excuse
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #45
Garryb80 said:
No but the post was claiming we should cut slack because he is only 20..clearly thats just an excuse
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If it’s that clear why did you have to make such a ridiculous comparison to try and make your point?

U21s/U23s exists for a reason, 20 is no age at all. Mbappe and the like are the exceptions not the rule.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #46
Terry_dactyl said:
I’ve seen it noted on here about his tackling...I just haven’t particularly noted it myself. If this is the case, like I say, maybe he’s just not that sort of player?
I think most of the new players are unknown quantities so, in respect of the squad, who has he suddenly dropped behind?
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I haven’t noticed him ducking out of tackles either.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jul 1, 2018
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shmmeee said:
If it’s that clear why did you have to make such a ridiculous comparison to try and make your point?

U21s/U23s exists for a reason, 20 is no age at all. Mbappe and the like are the exceptions not the rule.
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Then why use age as a reason to cut some slack? If a player is good enough age doesn't matter. If he is playing in our first team I expect him to be good enough for the shirt and, in my opinion, he isn't for the level we are at for reasons I already mentioned.
 
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Garryb80

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  • Jul 1, 2018
  • #48
Irish Sky Blue said:
I haven’t noticed him ducking out of tackles either.
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I spotted at least 4 in the second leg of the semi final alone.
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #49
Garryb80 said:
Mbappe is 19....
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So what? He is an exception like Ronaldo was. Most players breaking into football are nowhere near that standard, but it doesn't mean they can't develop and have a career. This notion players are a finished product by the time they are in their 20's is nonsense.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #50
Garryb80 said:
Then why use age as a reason to cut some slack? If a player is good enough age doesn't matter. If he is playing in our first team I expect him to be good enough for the shirt and, in my opinion, he isn't for the level we are at for reasons I already mentioned.
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Utter bollocks. Why wasn’t Mbappe playing at 3 by that logic?

Biologically full maturity doesn’t happen until about 25. To imply players are the finished article at 20 is a joke.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #51
shmmeee said:
To imply players are the finished article at 20 is a joke.
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Except he hasn't implied that at all has he?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #52
Mbappe is a phenomenon, Shipley will have a good career in professional football
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #53
Shipley is not the finished article - but last season was his first season, and he progressed immensely
Without him and Bayliss stepping up on the back of the injuries, and the turn around in McNulty and Biamou - we would have been in the bottom half

The defence and central mid had been sound from day 1, but those 4 players stepping up to the plate are what secured promotion
We need to ensure this season, (And that is what MR is doing) is ensure we are not so thin on the ground. We were probably 1 more key injury away from disaster in terms of promotion last season
 
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