Jodi Jones (4 Viewers)

Frankly_Mr_Shankly · Nov 28, 2021

ms639 said:
On what grounds? He looks well off the level, he needs to go out on loan L1 and see if he can find his feet

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What a twat

kg82 · Nov 28, 2021

ms639 said:
Ok let’s make it more evidence based then shall we?

The championship - the level we play at
JJ starts - 0
Total minutes played - 32

The management clearly believe him to be below the level required

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Thought he looked sharp yesterday when he came on. Couple of nice touches. Sold their defender and won a free kick.
Sure, not enough to give him a starting place. But, after 3 years out, getting minutes in the division above the one he last played in and not looking entirely out of his depth, I’m pleased for him. Also, don’t think we can afford to send him on loan!

long way home · Nov 28, 2021

The staff will have a plan for him and will be watching him closely every week in training. Every week he trains and every minute he gets on the pitch will give them and him more confidence about where he is and when he can be pushed on. We know he is a good player and at this stage I think the staff have managed him well. He will start to get more minutes and would think he will be here after Jan building up time on the pitch. It's a process for him and I'm sure the longer he stays fit he will get his chances to shine which is only going to be good for us.

I'd keep him and follow the process as I'm sure he will be worth it.

clint van damme · Nov 28, 2021

Robins was clearly happy with given his post match comments.

KersleyDigs · Nov 28, 2021

Thought he did well when he came on. Looks very comfortable on the ball at this level. You can see opposition respect him as the don't dive in. I'd like to see longer cameos in second half of the season

CovBrummie94 · Nov 28, 2021

I don’t think he will cut it in the Championship but I’d rather see him on the pitch than Shipley. Happy to keep him around until the end of the season if we don’t bring in an upgrade in Jan. After that a few seasons in League 1/2 are needed to get back to his best. It’s been a long time out and it will take a long time for him to fully recover.

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slowpoke · Nov 28, 2021

CovBrummie94 said:
I don’t think he will cut it in the Championship but I’d rather see him on the pitch than Shipley. Happy to keep him around until the end of the season if we don’t bring in an upgrade in Jan. After that a few seasons in League 1/2 are needed to get back to his best. It’s been a long time out and it will take a long time for him to fully recover.

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He has recovered.

Grendel · Nov 28, 2021

Paxman II said:
We need him here. He's on the cusp of being picked as a starter. O'Hare is going to need a rest.

There is zero chance of Jones fulfilling the O Hare role.

Torquay Sky Blue · Nov 28, 2021

Grendel said:
There is zero chance of Jones fulfilling the O Hare role.

Where do you see him playing then ?

CovBrummie94 · Nov 28, 2021

slowpoke said:
He has recovered.

Would the club medical staff be confident in his body to give him a run of full matches, I doubt it. He’s still very much recovering.

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 28, 2021

If we start playing the box away a bit more I think I'd like to see him next to O'Hare instead of Allen, who works hard but isn't likely to really set the game alight. JJ and O'Hare could be a real handful together. It'd be far more suitable for him than WB anyway.

I'm not certain if he has what it takes at this level, but I'd like to see him get a decent chance to find out.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Nov 28, 2021

ms639 said:
Ok let’s make it more evidence based then shall we?

The championship - the level we play at
JJ starts - 0
Total minutes played - 32

The management clearly believe him to be below the level required

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Or believe he isnt good enough to start yet as he has spent a long time out if the team, but clearly they see something as he is often on the bench

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Nov 28, 2021

Grendel said:
There is zero chance of Jones fulfilling the O Hare role.

No one can, but he can offer different qualities in that role

duffer · Nov 28, 2021

If he adds to our match day squad, even off the bench, then I don't think it makes sense to put him out on loan. If he's nowhere near the squad, then it's a different story.

As with most things, I think MR has managed it well. In the words of that old cliché, it could be that come Jan/Feb it'll be like making a new signing.

I think the one thing that's without doubt is that we'll get full commitment from JJ; I don't think there are many questions about the bloke's character. I hope for him and us, it all works out.

PVA · Nov 28, 2021

I would say Shipley is a better candidate for a loan than Jones

DannyThomas_1981 · Nov 28, 2021

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If we start playing the box away a bit more I think I'd like to see him next to O'Hare instead of Allen, who works hard but isn't likely to really set the game alight. JJ and O'Hare could be a real handful together. It'd be far more suitable for him than WB anyway.

I'm not certain if he has what it takes at this level, but I'd like to see him get a decent chance to find out.

That would certainly be an interesting set up in certain game situations. Would be an absolute nightmare for defences.

One thing I would say is that JJ has even higher potential to be a game changer in terms of goal threat/taking on the last man - O’Hare is of course essential to the way we play. They offer different qualities in the10 role.

One thing in games recently; O’Hare has been the dominant player on the pitch for the first 20-39 minutes. Slightly less influential after that. We might need to tweak our tactics mid game to counter whatever the oppo is doing to shut down O’Hare.

better days · Nov 28, 2021

When teams are on the back foot and maybe 2 or 3 of their players have been booked for fouls on O'Hare having them both running at the opposition late on has a lot of plus points

DannyThomas_1981 · Nov 28, 2021

Don’t get the obsession with some wanting JJ to go on loan. Robins clearly thinks he’s class by having him in the squad from day 1 this season but wants to bring him back over the course of the season. Loaning out one of our most skillful and technical players to be kicked by L2 thug defenders on heavy pitches over the winter is madness.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Nov 28, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Don’t get the obsession with some wanting JJ to go on loan. Robins clearly thinks he’s class by having him in the squad from day 1 this season but wants to bring him back over the course of the season. Loaning out one of our most skillful and technical players to be kicked by L2 thug defenders on heavy pitches over the winter is madness.

For once I agree with you

Gint11 · Nov 28, 2021

JJ is good enough. Just needs time

slowpoke · Nov 28, 2021

CovBrummie94 said:
Would the club medical staff be confident in his body to give him a run of full matches, I doubt it. He’s still very much recovering.

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slowpoke · Nov 28, 2021

slowpoke said:
So what do you say about Liam Kelly then ? Got a serious knee injury at the back end of last season and wasn’t back until last month and in my opinion is just getting back to his normal self. Let’s see how Jones does when he gets longer game time

steve101 · Nov 28, 2021

I imagine he is not just working on strength, fitness and confidence on the training field. He will be adapting his game from a fast and tricky winger, prior to his injury, to an attacking midfielder. Whenever he comes on he keeps the ball well, very rarely gives the ball away. I do wonder psychologically whether him being in the match squad boosts the team. He was on the pitch for the 2-goal comeback v Forest and again was on the pitch for the finale v Bournemouth. He does give us something different than our other options. There will be some doubt about his ability to make it in the championship until he can get more minutes on the pitch.

clint van damme · Nov 28, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Don’t get the obsession with some wanting JJ to go on loan. Robins clearly thinks he’s class by having him in the squad from day 1 this season but wants to bring him back over the course of the season. Loaning out one of our most skillful and technical players to be kicked by L2 thug defenders on heavy pitches over the winter is madness.

yeah, and given his injury history I think the club might want him where are own medical team can keep an eye on him.
Would like his next cameo to be a bit longer, gives us a better indication of where he's at.

lord_garrincha · Nov 28, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Don’t get the obsession with some wanting JJ to go on loan. Robins clearly thinks he’s class by having him in the squad from day 1 this season but wants to bring him back over the course of the season. Loaning out one of our most skillful and technical players to be kicked by L2 thug defenders on heavy pitches over the winter is madness.

Lucky he didn't play last Tuesday then!

Paxman II · Nov 28, 2021

PVA said:
I would say Shipley is a better candidate for a loan than Jones

Grendel said:
There is zero chance of Jones fulfilling the O Hare role.

Not the O'Hare role in the same way, but as a number 10 certainly. O'Hare lacks a goal threat, Jones would supply that threat behind Godden and Gykores. Is he good enough? Yes, and in a good team (like we have) he could flourish there. Time will tell but I could see it happening. It's a long season and he is hunger to be back.

Grendel · Nov 28, 2021

Paxman II said:
Not the O'Hare role in the same way, but as a number 10 certainly. O'Hare lacks a goal threat, Jones would supply that threat behind Godden and Gykores. Is he good enough? Yes, and in a good team (like we have) he could flourish there. Time will tell but I could see it happening. It's a long season and he is hunger to be back.

Well again you said hillsner could fulfil the role

Paxman II · Nov 28, 2021

Grendel said:
Well again you said hillsner could fulfil the role

Yes, and had he not been ill I think he could have turned out good for us. But the game moves on, he has asthma and it has hampered the poor lad, so we will never know.

JAM See · Nov 28, 2021

I don't know enough about football at Championship level to comment on whether he's good enough.

However, from what I hear about his appetite in playing for the U23s in order to get game time, I wish him all the best.

I've seen him a couple of times for the U23s and he looked hungry and up for it.

Seems a credit as a young man.

fatso · Nov 28, 2021

I just wonder if JJ would of scored more goals, and contributed more assists than O'hare, if he'd of had the same number of starts?

As I say ..... just a thought

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 28, 2021

fatso said:
I just wonder if JJ would of scored more goals, and contributed more assists than O'hare, if he'd of had the same number of starts?

As I say ..... just a thought

Possibly. But O'Hare contributes much more than that.

fatso · Nov 28, 2021

Deleted member 9744 said:
Possibly. But O'Hare contributes much more than that.

But it's goals and assists that win matches.

Deleted member 9744 · Nov 28, 2021

fatso said:
But it's goals and assists that win matches.

Exactly. So if you let loads in because you get overrun as a side you lose matches.

steve101 · Nov 28, 2021

It's great that this debate is being had given his rotten luck with injuries. A year ago if he could envisaged this being discussed I am sure he would have been delighted.

JAM See · Nov 28, 2021

fatso said:
But it's goals and assists that win matches.

Oggy.

600 games. 1 goal, 0 assists.

Fucking useless.

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