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Transfer Rumour Jahnoah Markelo (56 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Winny the Bish
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Otis

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  • Today at 9:49 AM
  • #421
edgy said:
Seems to vary depending on sources! Maybe he wears heals on occasion.
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If he runs down the wing on tip toes, we'll know the answer
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 9:49 AM
  • #422
Sky Blue Goblin said:
I don’t think anyone was calling for a third winger.

If the fee was €5 million euros, that means we’ve spent £4.3 million on this deal. Surely if true (based on the report tagged in the post), with our limited funds compared to the likes of brum and Ipswich, there’s a better ways to spend our money.
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I don’t think we’re spending this kind of money on what is clearly a project signing unless we’re already satisfied with the current first team squad, or if there’s still the promise of more transfer funds to come.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Today at 9:49 AM
  • #423
edgy said:
I agree with all of that. But I would still be a little confused at the signing, after we signed Esse.

Is this lad going to sit and wait until the summer. Or is Esse and Tats now going to have less minutes?
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Well we needed another player that could play 10 anyway imo .. esse can play there , sakamoto goes missing in games and we cant rely on him from now until may to be on it every week
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 9:50 AM
  • #424
Ashdown said:
Esse has had a great start but you can’t judge him against Tats after 3 games.
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Correct, but we can compare Esse 24/25 to Sakamoto where we scored the same amount of goals

I’m not drawing upon the data from this season alone, it’s a trend that goes to 23/24.

Boicey said:
One of the more ridiculous posts on here recently.
Tats works tirelessly for the team covering a lot defensively, something Esse won't be doing, and has improved the physical side of his game. We've often seen him change a game by skill and composure and doing something different. Comparing him to JDS is madness.

Esse has obviously been given a more free attacking role including being given license to get in the box. Tats is told to stay out wide, get crosses in and cover MVE.

Btw Frank made it clear Tats has been effected by illness for quite a while recently, nevermind his serious injury.
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It really isn’t, your first paragraph is full of sweeping statements. His best area is ‘aerial duels’ and it’s slightly better than average. To give credit where it’s due, his xA has been consistently strong but that’s it really.

These cliches get banded about and the data just does not support your view points. Defensively, there’s actually not that much daylight between EMC and Sakamoto defensively (attached).

The stats do not lie, Sakamoto has created 25 chances all season, of our most common starting 11 he’s only created more chances than:
- Rudoni (21)
- Thomas (20)
- Kitching & Wright (13)
 

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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 9:50 AM
  • #425
Evo1883 said:
If we sign a midfielder before the end of the window i think the squad is in a good enough place to be getting over the line and any failure to do so would lie at the door of the head coach .

If wed have signed a midfielder first and this lad after im sure people would be fine with it .
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Exactly this. Failure to get promoted now would lie at lampards door.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Today at 9:50 AM
  • #426
Skybluedownunder said:
Where I’ve looked says 5 ft 7


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Is that in Euro's
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 9:53 AM
  • #427
edgy said:
I agree with all of that. But I would still be a little confused at the signing, after we signed Esse.

Is this lad going to sit and wait until the summer. Or is Esse and Tats now going to have less minutes?
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Someone will move to LW imo and think it might be Sakamoto.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Today at 9:53 AM
  • #428
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Someone will move to LW imo and think it might be Sakamoto.
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Eh ?
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 9:53 AM
  • #429
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Someone will move to LW imo and think it might be Sakamoto.
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Nonsense
 
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edgy

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  • Today at 9:59 AM
  • #430
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Someone will move to LW imo and think it might be Sakamoto.
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So what about EMC and Yang? That's not happening.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 10:00 AM
  • #431
Ccfcisparks said:
Nonsense
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Evo1883 said:
Eh ?
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It’s more logical than sitting a £4+ million signing on the bench behind 2 other RWs.

Meanwhile, Minny is only a young player so there’s probably more a higher likelihood of Esse/Markelo/Sakamoto pushing for the LW behind EMC.

Given that Esse and Markelo’s game is taking players on and cutting in onto their left foot from the right side, they’re probably not going to moved. Whereas Sakamoto’s game is optimised for crossing so it could could be a good fit at LW.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 10:01 AM
  • #432
Mucca Mad Boys said:
It’s more logical than sitting a £4+ million signing on the bench behind 2 other RWs.

Meanwhile, Minny is only a young player so there’s probably more a higher likelihood of Esse/Markelo/Sakamoto pushing for the LW behind EMC.

Given that Esse and Markelo’s game is taking players on and cutting in onto their left foot from the right side, they’re probably not going to moved. Whereas Sakamoto’s game is optimised for crossing so it could could be a good fit at LW.
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I would be extremely surprised if that were the case
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 10:03 AM
  • #433
edgy said:
So what about EMC and Yang? That's not happening.
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My best guess is that Yang will probably get pushed down the pecking order

Saddlebrains said:
Seen Minny mentioned a lot above so thought id pass on a nugget

He is a decent player, looks good in training, club happy with him, Lampard just feels he needs to adjust a bit more to our system on the training pitch. Hes gone from a club who are fighting relegation and playing pretty direct stuff to a fast flowing side at the top of the league.

He will get minutes, just needs to bed in a bit
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If he needs time to bed in, perhaps a judgement has been made to sign a player (Markelo) that they feel will come in straight away.
 
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SBT

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  • Today at 10:06 AM
  • #434
Why would the top team in the Championship move multiple players around and out of position to slot in a 23 year old winger from the Swiss leagues?
 

Noble

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  • Today at 10:07 AM
  • #435
I’d be surprised if we see him this season, it’s a 4.5 year contract for a reason
 
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SkyBluePower

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  • Today at 10:07 AM
  • #436
Sky Blue Goblin said:
I don’t think anyone was calling for a third winger.

If the fee was €5 million euros, that means we’ve spent £4.3 million on this deal. Surely if true (based on the report tagged in the post), with our limited funds compared to the likes of brum and Ipswich, there’s a better ways to spend our money.
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Which I suppose you can take 2 ways- we either have prioritised this transfer over any others ( and/or someone is moving out) and now won’t be getting anyone else OR we have funds to afford this move plus others and a really going for it.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Today at 10:08 AM
  • #437
Noble said:
I’d be surprised if we see him this season, it’s a 4.5 year contract for a reason
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We will defo be seeing him. He’s a game changer.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 10:09 AM
  • #438
Noble said:
I’d be surprised if we see him this season, it’s a 4.5 year contract for a reason
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Really? We have spent a significant fee on him?

Whats he going to do for half a season then.
 
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oneofourown

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  • Today at 10:09 AM
  • #439
I don't know how true this story is but I heard it from a few people, but when we signed Marcel Hillsner our target was another lad in their team who plays midfield and looks similar and that Dean Austin and his team signed the wrong player. I mention this because if it is true maybe this lad was mistakenly meant to be another.

I think Marlon Ritter was the named player.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Today at 10:10 AM
  • #440
SkyBluePower said:
Which I suppose you can take 2 ways- we either have prioritised this transfer over any others ( and/or someone is moving out) and now won’t be getting anyone else OR we have funds to afford this move plus others and a really going for it.
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Yeah you could take glass half full or empty to be honest. I just think with our resources, we don’t have the luxury of spending that money in one of the positions we are strongest. Funnily enough if someone leaves I suddenly understand it slot more.

If we sign a CM, I’ll look like an idiot for my worry but just worry we are spending funds in positions we don’t need while the window closing date gets shorter.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 10:10 AM
  • #441
oneofourown said:
I don't know how true this story is but I heard it from a few people, but when we signed Marcel Hillsner our target was another lad in their team who plays midfield and looks similar and that Dean Austin and his team signed the wrong player. I mention this because if it is true maybe this lad was mistakenly meant to be another.
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hahahahah
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Today at 10:10 AM
  • #442
oneofourown said:
I don't know how true this story is but I heard it from a few people, but when we signed Marcel Hillsner our target was another lad in their team who plays midfield and looks similar and that Dean Austin and his team signed the wrong player. I mention this because if it is true maybe this lad was mistakenly meant to be another.
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Can’t be true. Only as Dean Austin wasn’t at the club
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 10:14 AM
  • #443
Ccfcisparks said:
I would be extremely surprised if that were the case
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What’s your view of what will happen?

A lot of people view Sakamoto as untouchable. Lampard and his staff will see the numbers we all have access to and the picture is that we need ‘more’.

If Lampard is happy with our winger options,
why else we’d go out and sign another one? Either Lampard isn’t 100% happy with what Minny/Sakamoto brings. To be complementary of Sakamoto, I believe he could really switch positions with minimal fuss, be it AM, LW or even WB where he played a lot before he joined us.

SBT said:
Why would the top team in the Championship move multiple players around and out of position to slot in a 23 year old winger from the Swiss leagues?
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1 player. I don’t know why there’s so much snobbery towards the Swiss league, EMC came from L1, Minny from the K-League and Tats came from a team relegated from the Belgian league.

Underlying data for Markelo is impressive and his dribbling in particular stands out amongst elite players in Europe.
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Today at 10:14 AM
  • #444
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Can’t be true. Only as Dean Austin wasn’t at the club
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and marcel didnt look similar
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 10:18 AM
  • #445
Mucca Mad Boys said:
What’s your view of what will happen?

A lot of people view Sakamoto as untouchable. Lampard and his staff will see the numbers we all have access to and the picture is that we need ‘more’.

If Lampard is happy with our winger options,
why else we’d go out and sign another one? Either Lampard isn’t 100% happy with what Minny/Sakamoto brings. To be complementary of Sakamoto, I believe he could really switch positions with minimal fuss, be it AM, LW or even WB where he played a lot before he joined us.


1 player. I don’t know why there’s so much snobbery towards the Swiss league, EMC came from L1, Minny from the K-League and Tats came from a team relegated from the Belgian league.

Underlying data for Markelo is impressive and his dribbling in particular stands out amongst elite players in Europe.
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I'm really unsure to be honest! Thats why this signing has got a few stumped.

I don't know a lot about the player, is he purely a RW?

Does this mean that Rudoni is out for longer and we will see Esse playing more in CAM.

Find it really bewildering.
 
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thezunigadream

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  • Today at 10:19 AM
  • #446
Mucca Mad Boys said:
My best guess is that Yang will probably get pushed down the pecking order



If he needs time to bed in, perhaps a judgement has been made to sign a player (Markelo) that they feel will come in straight away.
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Was stark (and frustrating) on monday that minny gave the ball away a few times trying to force the issue on the wing.

Our template has been to recycle if in doubt, he didn’t do this on more than one occasion.

Doubt we’ve then signed a player the next day to compensate but can absolutely see the point being made.
 
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oneofourown

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  • Today at 10:20 AM
  • #447
Sky Blue Goblin said:
Can’t be true. Only as Dean Austin wasn’t at the club
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My apologise to Dean, but it was a story about our scouting team at that time.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:22 AM
  • #448
Evo1883 said:
Think bassette fell out with lampard in fairness .. i agree with brau and woolfenden , but again as with robins he signed them off
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Just curious what that means. Maybe I’m over indexing on Robins glib comments when we signed Dovin and the fact I really don’t agree with the whole recruitment separate from team management thing.
 

shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:23 AM
  • #449
Noble said:
I’d be surprised if we see him this season, it’s a 4.5 year contract for a reason
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The reason is we hand everyone 4 year plus deals these days.
 

Evo1883

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  • Today at 10:23 AM
  • #450
shmmeee said:
Just curious what that means. Maybe I’m over indexing on Robins glib comments when we signed Dovin and the fact I really don’t agree with the whole recruitment separate from team management thing.
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I agree , but im just going off what king said in his interview about the manager being involved
 
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TomRad85

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  • Today at 10:25 AM
  • #451
Swiss league is decent enough isn't it? Better than that Swedish league thats so trendy atm. Looks more exciting than Manneh with the added bonus of not having a huge medical issue that makes him completely unsignable. I also trust that his age is real.
 
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oneofourown

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  • Today at 10:25 AM
  • #452
Just to appease you this is the photo. Marcel is bottom right, or is he?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Today at 10:26 AM
  • #453
oneofourown said:
Just to appease you this is the photo. Marcel is bottom right, or is he?
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Yeah hes second from the right front row
 

skybluecam

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  • Today at 10:29 AM
  • #454
edgy said:
I really hope that's the case and not just a "follow the model" signing, where it's not someone to actually get us over the line but someone we hope to flip a profit on in a couple of years. We are currently, past that bit.
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We’re past that? We’ve not been promoted yet…
 
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shmmeee

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  • Today at 10:30 AM
  • #455
Don’t agree that we’ll ever be past trying to sign young players who are underrated. But also don’t think we’ve been doing that since King arrived.
 
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