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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #36
cc84cov said:
We will have money my point is these people saying we don’t won’t be in the know,I’m sure robins would have kept Some back for January
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It's highly likely we don't. We prepared for both scenarios in terms of fans coming back into grounds and fans staying away all season. Given that the latter scenario has happened it's likely we have little to no money for additions - unless Joy is willing to inject cash.

A half hearted link from a Twitter page that's known to be hit and miss doesn't prove your point.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #37
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It's highly likely we don't. We prepared for both scenarios in terms of fans coming back into grounds and fans staying away all season. Given that the latter scenario has happened it's likely we have little to no money for additions - unless Joy is willing to inject cash.

A half hearted link from a Twitter page that's known to be hit and miss doesn't prove your point.
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Kept it under 5000 words KSB you alright?
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #38
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It's highly likely we don't. We prepared for both scenarios in terms of fans coming back into grounds and fans staying away all season. Given that the latter scenario has happened it's likely we have little to no money for additions - unless Joy is willing to inject cash.

A half hearted link from a Twitter page that's known to be hit and miss doesn't prove your point.
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Do you wanna bet we bring a player in ?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #39
cc84cov said:
We will have money my point is these people saying we don’t won’t be in the know,I’m sure robins would have kept Some back for January
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I have been through this with you, in the last three seasons we haven’t signed a player permanently in January other than Chaplin which was already agreed as part of the loan. It will be a loan but there is only room for 1 more in the squad. Free agents? But that comes with a risk

There is nothing to support Robins is bluffing and sitting on funds to get 3 or 4 new signings in
 
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better days

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #40
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I have been through this with you, in the last three seasons we haven’t signed a player permanently in January other than Chaplin which was already agreed as part of the loan. It will be a loan but there is only room for 1 more in the squad. Free agents? But that comes with a risk

There is nothing to support Robins is bluffing and sitting on funds to get 3 or 4 new signings in
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I agree with you STP but you do usually need a bit of money to finance loans to cover at least part of the wages
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #41
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I have been through this with you, in the last three seasons we haven’t signed a player permanently in January other than Chaplin which was already agreed as part of the loan. It will be a loan but there is only room for 1 more in the squad. Free agents? But that comes with a risk

There is nothing to support Robins is bluffing and sitting on funds to get 3 or 4 new signings in
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Free agents can be brought in on trial so you can see how bad the rustiness is. Looking at the list there’s no decent strikers but quite a few central midfielders who would bring experience as well as know how
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #42
SlowerThanPlatt said:
I have been through this with you, in the last three seasons we haven’t signed a player permanently in January other than Chaplin which was already agreed as part of the loan. It will be a loan but there is only room for 1 more in the squad. Free agents? But that comes with a risk

There is nothing to support Robins is bluffing and sitting on funds to get 3 or 4 new signings in
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Still think we will sign a player for me it’s crucial to survival that we do
 
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Magwitch

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #43
I think adding to the squad is 50/50 some might have to go out first and in the current climate thats iffy. Depending on Marosi Clamp could leave which perhaps leaves a wage. We though need someone asap and not wait until the end of January there’s a few crucial fixtures before then.
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #44
better days said:
I agree with you STP but you do usually need a bit of money to finance loans to at least part of the wages
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Will be a few teams scrabbling around for loanees. I can't see the free agents being very popular, as it is likely to take them ages to get up to speed, and clubs want an instant return, Andre Green is the only one I'd be vaguely interested in (but doesn't really fit in with our system)
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #45
As Roy Orbison sang, 'Only the Loanee'
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #46
cc84cov said:
Do you wanna bet we bring a player in ?
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I think we will bring a player in. I've said previously we'll probably bring in at least one loan but that doesn't mean we're not broke. You saying otherwise doesn't miraculously make it less true.

Most pundits and journalists are predicting that it's going to be a quiet window so despite us needing reinforcements (I personally have a AM, CDM, ST on my wish list) I just can't see us signing any more than one, maybe two. I also think our business is potentially dependant on whether Robins is able to move on players which is far easier said than done as even if in the hypothetical scenario that football clubs weren't in a complete financial black hole who would take them? In normal circumstances it's more than likely we would have to pay to get them off the books.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #47
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Will be a few teams scrabbling around for loanees. I can't see the free agents being very popular, as it is likely to take them ages to get up to speed, and clubs want an instant return, Andre Green is the only one I'd be vaguely interested in (but doesn't really fit in with our system)
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Tom Huddlestone?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #48
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Tom Huddlestone?
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He's playing Loki in a new Marvel follow up, so don't think he's available.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #49
Sky Blue Harry H said:
He's playing Loki in a new Marvel follow up, so don't think he's available.
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Is that a joke?
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #50
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Tom Huddlestone?
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Would be ideal,34 years old experienced good holding midfielder
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #51
cc84cov said:
Would be ideal,34 years old experienced good holding midfielder
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That’s what I thought, was offered an extension by Derby but turned it down. Would be ideal till the end of the season
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #52
cc84cov said:
Would be ideal,34 years old experienced good holding midfielder
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It really wouldn't be ideal.
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #53
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It really wouldn't be ideal.
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Why not ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #54
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It really wouldn't be ideal.
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Considering our finances, the lack of anyone over 25 in midfield and Kelly being gone for months, I can’t think of many better alternatives
 
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cc84cov

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #55
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Considering our finances, the lack of anyone over 25 in midfield and Kelly being gone for months, I can’t think of many better alternatives
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I’ve asked him why not mate but it’s gonna be about 45 min before we get a reply the guy loves a paragraph
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #56
cc84cov said:
I’ve asked him why not mate but it’s gonna be about 45 min before we get a reply the guy loves a paragraph
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Our squad in general is very light on experience particularly at this level. Huddlestone has that, good on the ball and still keen to play. Wouldn’t hurt at all to at least offer a trial
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #57
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Our squad in general is very light on experience particularly at this level. Huddlestone has that, good on the ball and still keen to play. Wouldn’t hurt at all to at least offer a trial
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Short term Contract till end of season
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #58
cc84cov said:
Short term Contract till end of season
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What I was thinking, maybe offer an extension clause if we stay up. Yes these players need time to get fit but even initially just coming off the bench for a half hour gives us better options.
 

cc84cov

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #59
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What I was thinking, maybe offer an extension clause if we stay up. Yes these players need time to get fit but even initially just coming off the bench for a half hour gives us better options.
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My worry is he won’t get fit coming on in the 87th min
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #60
cc84cov said:
My worry is he won’t get fit coming on in the 87th min
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Unless we’re 2 down
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #61
cc84cov said:
Why not ?
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He hasn't played for nearly a year for a start.
 

Mcbean

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #62
Temporary signing to replace Kelly and one big fuck off striker with Prem experience on the way down - simples
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #63
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Considering our finances, the lack of anyone over 25 in midfield and Kelly being gone for months, I can’t think of many better alternatives
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Even if in the event we offered Huddelstone a short term contract and he accepted, it's not unreasonable to predict that by the time he got up to speed Kelly would be fit. Especially when you take into consideration he hasn't played for nearly 12 months.

So, considering our finances, I couldn't think of a worse signing.

I personally can't see us dipping into the free agent market. There's too much risk involved given our financial situation and it goes against Robins' model. We've attempted at bringing in 'experience' before and we're all well acquainted with how that turned out.
 

Frostie

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #64
cc84cov said:
Why not ?
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Wasn't good enough or fit enough for Derby who you have called "shit" & "a poor side".
Only managed 11 league games for them all last season & not played for a whole year.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #65
There's usually a reason why a player is a free agent. In the circumstances signing Camp made sense but otherwise I would steer clear of this route. Let's not forget Yakubu.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #66
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Even if in the event we offered Huddelstone a short term contract and he accepted, it's not unreasonable to predict that by the time he got up to speed Kelly would be fit. Especially when you take into consideration he hasn't played for nearly 12 months.

So, considering our finances, I couldn't think of a worse signing.

I personally can't see us dipping into the free agent market. There's too much risk involved given our financial situation and it goes against Robins' model. We've attempted at bringing in 'experience' before and we're all well acquainted with how that turned out.
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This is a position where we really need it. Not every player over 30 can just be written off because our general model is about younger players. Who do you suggest we go for?
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #67
Kevin Stewart would be a better bet than Huddlestone. Still young enough and a point to prove you would think after being part of the Hull team
 
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capel & collindridge

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #68
Deleted member 9744 said:
Let's not forget Yakubu.
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I suggest we do. He's now nearly 40. We were one of only two teams he played for without ever scoring and its almost 6 years since he last scored. Come to think of it, he may be one of the very few players the "Worth a punt" brigade don't want to sign! ;-)
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #69
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This is a position where we really need it. Not every player over 30 can just be written off because our general model is about younger players. Who do you suggest we go for?
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It's a position we need certainly to bolster and I'm not writing every player over 30 off. It's clear as day that we require experience desperately and in an ideal world Robins would have the means to bring in a player of this ilk. But gambling what little budget we have left - if we have any at all - on an unfit 34 year old who hasn't played for nearly a year is completely illogical. Not every player over 30 can be written off but in the same breath we can't just go for any 30+ year old.

For experience? I couldn't tell you. I wouldn't touch the free agent market as in my opinion it'll likely take weeks, maybe even months for them to get up to speed - depending on how long they have been out of the game. Perhaps we could enquire into players who are surplus to requirements at Championship clubs. Unfortunately our options are limited for this category as wages are likely to pose a problem and you have to contend with the obvious - why is it that they're unwanted. E.g. Too many players in front of them in the pecking order or just simply their career is on a downward trajectory.

I've consistently said that our only feasible option (unless Robins and the backroom staff are able to pull a rabbit out of the hat) is to sacrifice experience and bring in a PL loan. Someone like West Brom's Rekeem Harper would be ideal but I believe Celtic might be lining up a deal for him. Or Brighton's Jayson Molumby who played around 40 times for Millwall last season.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 31, 2020
  • #70
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It's a position we need certainly to bolster and I'm not writing every player over 30 off. It's clear as day that we require experience desperately and in an ideal world Robins would have the means to bring in a player of this ilk. But gambling what little budget we have left - if we have any at all - on an unfit 34 year old who hasn't played for nearly a year is completely illogical. Not every player over 30 can be written off but in the same breath we can't just go for any 30+ year old.

For experience? I couldn't tell you. I wouldn't touch the free agent market as in my opinion it'll likely take weeks, maybe even months for them to get up to speed - depending on how long they have been out of the game. Perhaps we could enquire into players who are surplus to requirements at Championship clubs. Unfortunately our options are limited for this category as wages are likely to pose a problem and you have to contend with the obvious - why is it that they're unwanted. E.g. Too many players in front of them in the pecking order or just simply their career is on a downward trajectory.

I've consistently said that our only feasible option (unless Robins and the backroom staff are able to pull a rabbit out of the hat) is to sacrifice experience and bring in a PL loan. Someone like West Brom's Rekeem Harper would be ideal but I believe Celtic might be lining up a deal for him. Or Brighton's Jayson Molumby who played around 40 times for Millwall last season.
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Only issue with loans is I wonder how many more we're allowed to make and even then of course we won't be the only club after the decent ones. Up front it's even harder to think of options other than asking Joy for a few quid. With free agents the ball is at least much more in the club's court and you can stack the contract in your favour. Easier to get a bit more bang for your buck in central midfield than up front I think
 
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