Yes.
We were a worse team so it was easier to break throughWere Shipley and Bayliss better than the current crop of youngsters or were they just lucky they broke through when they did?
Eccles was outstanding last season , why would we loan him out to L1?If Gus does go and we end up bringing 2 CMs in, do we let Eccles go out as well? Get a full L1 season playing every week. Leave Kelly to cover Sheaf this season.
No. Eccles is good enough to start games in midfield. I think he'll improve this year again. Smart player. I'd rather Eccles cover Sheaf than Kelly.If Gus does go and we end up bringing 2 CMs in, do we let Eccles go out as well? Get a full L1 season playing every week. Leave Kelly to cover Sheaf this season.
No. Eccles is good enough to start games in midfield. I think he'll improve this year again. Smart player. I'd rather Eccles cover Sheaf than Kelly.
Eccles is miles ahead of KellyJust think while Kelly is there he won’t get the games he needs to really kick on. Would rather he went and bossed L1 than got twenty mins here and there. Injuries aside we don’t tend to swap out CMs much.
Eccles is miles ahead of Kelly
Sentiment contract , hopefully he isn't on a lot of money but with the way the squad has and is evolving it looks more and more one that we could regret .I agree. But why keep Kelly on?
Fair pointThink Kelly, McFadzean and Godden are all to provide experience and leadership down the spine of the team/squad. The three of them will be invaluable at Ryton as much as in the first XI on matchday.
Kelly will provide lots, especially if he isn't injured. We will get injuries, loss of form and the midfield will sometimes need an experienced head (like fadz at the back). Kelly can come on, settle the team and provide guidance. A good option - we frequently won't have our first eleven and will need options for MR.Sentiment contract , hopefully he isn't on a lot of money but with the way the squad has and is evolving it looks more and more one that we could regret .
Kelly is there for a dire emergency and to help in the dressing room imo, so I’d retain Eccles to be in the squad.If Gus does go and we end up bringing 2 CMs in, do we let Eccles go out as well? Get a full L1 season playing every week. Leave Kelly to cover Sheaf this season.
Perhaps I was overly harsh, he does still have a role within the clubKelly will provide lots, especially if he isn't injured. We will get injuries, loss of form and the midfield will sometimes need an experienced head (like fadz at the back). Kelly can come on, settle the team and provide guidance. A good option - we frequently won't have our first eleven and will need options for MR.
I think Eccles will be above Kelly this season, but Kelly will still have a vital role to play this season - occasionally as a starter, more often as a sub to settle the team or provide support/direction from MR and also on the training ground.Once MvE is properly up and running Eccles will be above Kelly in the midfield pecking order
Still would like another option in midfield, maybe a loanee to offer something differentI think Eccles will be above Kelly this season, but Kelly will still have a vital role to play this season - occasionally as a starter, more often as a sub to settle the team or provide support/direction from MR and also on the training ground.
Eccles played 34 Championship games last season - what’s he going to learn in League One?
I think several would. I think we’ll be giving him plenty as well!Do you think a lower champ club would give him game time?
I think several would. I think we’ll be giving him plenty as well
Why on earth would you do that?If Gus does go and we end up bringing 2 CMs in, do we let Eccles go out as well? Get a full L1 season playing every week. Leave Kelly to cover Sheaf this season.
Why on earth would you do that?
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I can't think he's behind Kelly, more that he's just been needed as RWB more atm. Rather we just get MVE up to speed there personally and have Eccles coming on in the middle rather than Kelly, but i'm not the manager... which is probably a good thing.Because he needs game time in his favoured position and it looks like he’d be third behind Kelly and Sheaf based on robins selections so far.
Does all the “look after him” comments from our fans make anybody else feel sick?
Eccles will play the majority of our games as he did last season. Surely he played virtually every game from about November until the play offs.Because he needs game time in his favoured position and it looks like he’d be third behind Kelly and Sheaf based on robins selections so far.
Eccles will play the majority of our games as he did last season. Surely he played virtually every game from about November until the play offs.
Or perhaps he just needs to play regularly at that sort of level to learn?If can't handle the physicality of Div 2 players, then what level ?
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