Mine have grown up having a big sister who isn't white. They don't even notice until they are older. Then when they do notice they also know that everybody's the same. The only difficulty I have ever had is one of my lads getting into trouble a few times for not liking what was said in front of him.
A lot of it is down to how parents were as they grew up and then bravado amongst friends.
Just like what started this thread off.
I dunno, I went off and found them. Was originally along the lines that what someone says in private should stay there, but it's kind of... personal and pretty unnerving about some of them. Casting doubt about whether people actually *were* sexually assaulted is beyond the pail really, too. And yeah sure, it may have been a private group, but the lesson surely is that as soon as you write something down, you can be quoted and there are consequences.Only one I can find is pretty standard mates banter. And it looks like a WhatsApp group, which is a private conversation you need to be invited into.
I dunno, I went off and found them. Was originally along the lines that what someone says in private should stay there, but it's kind of... personal and pretty unnerving about some of them. Casting doubt about whether people actually *were* sexually assaulted is beyond the pail really, too. And yeah sure, it may have been a private group, but the lesson surely is that as soon as you write something down, you can be quoted and there are consequences.
If it had been a one-off joke in bad taste, that again would have been pretty different.
If I were the subject of any of those messages, I'd be disturbed and upset and slightly scared - and that crosses the line.
I must lead a sheltered life as I'm pretty sure I've never chatted with my friends about how someone we knew drugged a girl and raped her or how great Hitler was.I'd dread to read some of the conversations we had back in the day between mates, can guarantee they wouldn't have been PC.
I must lead a sheltered life as I'm pretty sure I've never chatted with my friends about how someone we knew drugged a girl and raped her or how great Hitler was.
Your skin tone sounds similar to my daughters. When she goes away with her husband he comes back with a better tan than her. She looks light against those with fake tans on though.I hear racist stuff all the time. I'm mixed race myself as I've said on here many times but to the untrained eye look like a white bloke with a mediocre tan. I ALWAYS call people out on it.
Although the chat was called "Fuck Women, Disrespect them all", so it wasn't likely to have been all about nice afternoon teas at Coombe Abbey.The crux of it for me is that if it was a private group exclusively filled with like-minded edgy dangerous oh no you di'nt say that types there'd be no problems, just a load of pricks chuckling to themselves. In this case it seems as though there are a number of people with access to the group who really didn't like what was being said, which veers away from it being invasion of privacy territory.
Although the chat was called "Fuck Women, Disrespect them all", so it wasn't likely to have been all about nice afternoon teas at Coombe Abbey.
I dunno, I went off and found them. Was originally along the lines that what someone says in private should stay there, but it's kind of... personal and pretty unnerving about some of them. Casting doubt about whether people actually *were* sexually assaulted is beyond the pail really, too. And yeah sure, it may have been a private group, but the lesson surely is that as soon as you write something down, you can be quoted and there are consequences.
If it had been a one-off joke in bad taste, that again would have been pretty different.
If I were the subject of any of those messages, I'd be disturbed and upset and slightly scared - and that crosses the line.
Unless there's something we don't know about, and its hard to imagine what that could even be to justify the change, this is a very poor move from Warwick Uni.It's come out that the two who were banned for 10 years have had it reduced to one on the quiet, so four of the five who were messaging about gangraping and mutilating specific named girls and their friends will be allowed in the same seminars as them come September.
Privacy considerations mean that we are not able to disclose the specific details on which the decisions were made; however the panel reached the view that there were clear reasons to require that the punishments imposed should be comparable across all of those individuals sanctioned by the major disciplinary process.
As a consequence, all those students for whom the major disciplinary cases were proven have broadly comparable penalties, and those penalties were set to allow the complainants to complete their studies before the disciplined students were given the opportunity to return (and there are a range of conditions imposed on that return). The penalties imposed combine direct punishment for the deeply offensive and threatening comments made during the chats, future behavioural restrictions and a requirement to engage in processes to enable them to learn from their past unacceptable behaviours.
We would like to reiterate that this behaviour goes completely against our values as a community.
Like how there's a load of meaningless waffle then "We would like to reiterate that this behaviour goes completely against our values as a community". She might as well have just posted this
Finally, the voice of reason. It sickens me how these people can think it is banter, locker room stuff etc. Whoever at Warwick Uni decided to let them come back should should hang their head in shame. And this is supposed to be one of the top universities in the country....Unbelievable.Well I'm guessing you guys wont mind if it's your daughter that they're talking about - or one of her flat mates especially if she was a p**ki ! I cant believe anyone can believe this is just banter - or even it's fine as its locker room banter or on a private platform. This is the way these morons think about women - all women, your wives, daughters girlfriends etc etc. I hope they get kicked out.
The reduction does seem pretty lenient and I think it's about time a lot of the students got some kind of perspective on actions having consequences - it's becoming far too common nowadays that they'll whinge about something or other being extenuating factors for poor results, or poor lecturers, or some such waffle. Never explain how others with the same things manage to do really well.
I also think there's very much an elitist element here. If it'd been a load of the labourers doing building work around the campus there'd be calls for them to be sacked from their jobs.
Chances are it is just a load of macho bravado bullshit, and put most of them in a real world environment and they're actually pretty intimidated by it, but there are some notorious frat houses around so you never know.
It's not just men capable of this. I've spent a fair amount of time working in female-dominated office environments and they can be just as filthy. I've heard conversations about who they think does and doesn't have a big cock, what they'd do to them in the stationery cupboard etc, ask male members of staff if they had the stamina to take them all on etc. I've had three women ask me to guess how big their tits are (imagine if I'd asked them to guess the size of my cock) - one even showed me them - and even had an offer to see an 'intimate' tattoo.
I'd also like to remind some people that this very forum has it's own "not so obvious babes thread" with it's banta.
It's not just men capable of this. I've spent a fair amount of time working in female-dominated office environments and they can be just as filthy. I've heard conversations about who they think does and doesn't have a big cock, what they'd do to them in the stationery cupboard etc, ask male members of staff if they had the stamina to take them all on etc. I've had three women ask me to guess how big their tits are (imagine if I'd asked them to guess the size of my cock) - one even showed me them - and even had an offer to see an 'intimate' tattoo.
Wasn't it on a private group chat?
Have comedians like Frankie Boyle who also joke about rape performed at Warwick Arts Centre?
Not saying it's in good taste but on the other hand don't see the massive outrage / offence.
It’s not like a Frankie Boyle joke. It’s literally just saying “I’m going to rape this named person”. And that named person has to go to uni each day with them.
I’m not sure about the private chat thing. By that logic we shouldn’t arrest terrorists we find plotting on the Internet.
I sincerely hope they do.Yeah the big thing is that there are a number of current students who know that things like 'I'm going to rape the german girl in my flat while everyone watches', '____ looks like a rape victim' and '____ deserves hair straighteners on her flaps' are specifically about them. The English and History (at least one of the four is studying history too) departments have so far opposed the University stance, I hope more will join them.
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