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Grendel

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PVA

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It’s what I was saying at the weekend and the reason I can’t quite work what Trump was thinking especially with the mid terms coming up.

To be fair Trump could pull out at any time, claim it to be the most successful war ever and half the country would lap it up.

The issue for him will be if gas prices rise and US soldiers start coming home in coffins.
 

CCFCSteve

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It will have far less impact than the Ukraine war and China will not allow restricted access to supply for very long

Its clearly a message sent to make Iran a pariah state across the middle east

Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It will have far less impact than the Ukraine war and China will not allow restricted access to supply for very long

Its clearly a message sent to make Iran a pariah state across the middle east
Isn’t the Ukraine war another one you didn’t give a fuck about and couldn’t see how it affected us?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this
Probably Putin came up with the idea
 

Grendel

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Isn’t the Ukraine war another one you didn’t give a fuck about and couldn’t see how it affected us?

Exactly. I didn’t believe in sanctions against Russia and defending Ukraine - what are you on about?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Get ready for your energy bills to skyrocket folks
Woke nonsense! Our energy costs are going to skyrocket because of the green levies put on them!

Fact that if we'd have invested in renewable energy when we should have rather than saying it just increases people's prices, we'd now have a cleaner, cheaper and far more secure energy infrastructure that wouldn't be as susceptible to shit like this happening.

But, hey, keeping us reliant on fuel sources from unstable regions of the world (which are unstable BECAUSE they have the fuel sources) often run by bad faith actors who artificially keep the price high, was by far the better choice because, y'know, reasons.
 

Grendel

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Woke nonsense! Our energy costs are going to skyrocket because of the green levies put on them!

Fact that if we'd have invested in renewable energy when we should have rather than saying it just increases people's prices, we'd now have a cleaner, cheaper and far more secure energy infrastructure that wouldn't be as susceptible to shit like this happening.

But, hey, keeping us reliant on fuel sources from unstable regions of the world (which are unstable BECAUSE they have the fuel sources) often run by bad faith actors who artificially keep the price high, was by far the better choice because, y'know, reasons.

no we should - like France - have invested in nuclear energy
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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no we should - like France - have invested in nuclear energy
It should have ben a bridging option while transitioning.

Renewables are far cheaper, less hazardous and easier to construct long term.

But then of course we'd have still been reliant on other nations building the nuclear plants. China constructing our newest nuclear energy plant isn't in the slightest bit worrying...
 

Grendel

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It should have ben a bridging option while transitioning.

Renewables are far cheaper, less hazardous and easier to construct long term.

But then of course we'd have still been reliant on other nations building the nuclear plants. China constructing our newest nuclear energy plant isn't in the slightest bit worrying...

Nonsense as usual
 

fernandopartridge

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Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this

America employment figures are out and they're not great reading, especially long term unemployed which has risen nearly 25% in a year.
 

wingy

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Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this
Possibly the real reason for going in wreck everyone's economy just as it appeared to be showing signs,if we can't have it the rest of you can't?
 

skybluetony176

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It should have ben a bridging option while transitioning.

Renewables are far cheaper, less hazardous and easier to construct long term.

But then of course we'd have still been reliant on other nations building the nuclear plants. China constructing our newest nuclear energy plant isn't in the slightest bit worrying...
The argument doesn’t even stack up in France anymore. Nuclear in France is about €70 a MWh whereas renewables are about €50 a MWh. If France is the example then the example is France backed the wrong horse in Nuclear energy. If you want a good example to follow for the consumer you need to look at somewhere like Spain where they backed renewables and now the consumer is reaping the benefits.
 

Captain Dart

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The argument doesn’t even stack up in France anymore. Nuclear in France is about €70 a MWh whereas renewables are about €50 a MWh. If France is the example then the example is France backed the wrong horse in Nuclear energy. If you want a good example to follow for the consumer you need to look at somewhere like Spain where they backed renewables and now the consumer is reaping the benefits.
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Inflation proofed for 20 years to boot.
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