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fatso

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Yes it's outdated and untrue. Glad we agree on that at least.

So why the fuck are you still spouting it?
Ffs, trying to talk with you is like talking to talk to a plank of wood. If your so intent on not seeing facts and just sticking to being wrong on everything, then please feel free to just ignore my posts, I really cant be arsed to argue with stupid.
 

fatso

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It's a trope that goes back hundreds and hundreds of years.
And why is that do you think?
Why is it that wherever the "wondering jews" went, the same accusations followed?

Just for once, take your antisemitic bullshit hat off, and look at the historic reasons the Jews were subject to such accusations over thousands of years, going back to their subjugation and imprisonment in Egypt over 5000 years ago and their subsequent release after the "passover"

You need to understand a little of their history before you can hope to understand where they stand today.
Otherwise you just sound like @Brightonskyblue just rambling like a clueless twat, or @PVA just being wrong on every possible subject.
Maybe we should just put those 2 clowns in a room together!
 

PVA

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Ffs, trying to talk with you is like talking to talk to a plank of wood. If your so intent on not seeing facts and just sticking to being wrong on everything, then please feel free to just ignore my posts, I really cant be arsed to argue with stupid.

Coming from the man who think the moon landings were fake and watches videos of a convicted sex offender to get his news.

And it's 'you're'.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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And why is that do you think?
Why is it that wherever the "wondering jews" went, the same accusations followed?

Just for once, take your antisemitic bullshit hat off, and look at the historic reasons the Jews were subject to such accusations over thousands of years, going back to their subjugation and imprisonment in Egypt over 5000 years ago and their subsequent release after the "passover"

You need to understand a little of their history before you can hope to understand where they stand today.
Otherwise you just sound like @Brightonskyblue just rambling like a clueless twat, or @PVA just being wrong on every possible subject.
Maybe we should just put those 2 clowns in a room together!
So how did this subjugated and persecuted people come to control the banking and politics of the world? Do you not think that those that controlled them before the Jews (like the UK and the highly conservative Christian US) might have noticed this 'infiltration'?

How can you not see that your argument is the same one used by Hitler and the Nazi's for their suppression of the Jews? Or is your take that Hitler and the Nazi's weren't anti-semitic?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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And why is that do you think?
Why is it that wherever the "wondering jews" went, the same accusations followed?

Just for once, take your antisemitic bullshit hat off, and look at the historic reasons the Jews were subject to such accusations over thousands of years, going back to their subjugation and imprisonment in Egypt over 5000 years ago and their subsequent release after the "passover"

You need to understand a little of their history before you can hope to understand where they stand today.
Otherwise you just sound like @Brightonskyblue just rambling like a clueless twat, or @PVA just being wrong on every possible subject.
Maybe we should just put those 2 clowns in a room together!
Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

 

fatso

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So how did this subjugated and persecuted people come to control the banking and politics of the world? Do you not think that those that controlled them before the Jews (like the UK and the highly conservative Christian US) might have noticed this 'infiltration'?

How can you not see that your argument is the same one used by Hitler and the Nazi's for their suppression of the Jews? Or is your take that Hitler and the Nazi's weren't anti-semitic?
Here's an idea, instead of wasting my time in firing off pointless questions in some vain attempt to back up your totally pointless argument, why not spend some serious time educating yourself on the history of the Jewish people?
You might realise that they've been persecuted for millenia and not just by Hitler, and its not my argument (which is something you cant seem to get your head around) its a matter of historical record.

The issue on here is that yourself and @Brightonskyblue seem to want to twist every single argument into "your just antisimetic"

You both seem completely beyond educating or rational debate, you clearly have your own warped narrow minded adjenda and no amount of reasoned debate(from anyone on here) is going to change that.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Here's an idea, instead of wasting my time in firing off pointless questions in some vain attempt to back up your totally pointless argument, why not spend some serious time educating yourself on the history of the Jewish people?
You might realise that they've been persecuted for millenia and not just by Hitler, and its not my argument (which is something you cant seem to get your head around) its a matter of historical record.

The issue on here is that yourself and @Brightonskyblue seem to want to twist every single argument into "your just antisimetic"

You both seem completely beyond educating or rational debate, you clearly have your own warped narrow minded adjenda and no amount of reasoned debate(from anyone on here) is going to change that.
Go telling some of your colleagues that you think Jews run the world, see how they react. Please invite me beforehand though, I need the popcorn.

Also learn how to tag people FFS
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Coming from the idiot who thinks we once went for a stoll on the moon 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Tbf Anything you believe to be true is probably BS
OK, so if they didn't, why didn't the Russians claim it was fake news? I seem to remember the two sides were quite competitive with each other about it.
 
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Gynnsthetonic

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Go telling some of your colleagues that you think Jews run the world, see how they react. Please invite me beforehand though, I need the popcorn.

Also learn how to tag people FFS
You've just had a kid ffs, seriously you need to spend some time with it. You're constantly on here moaning, stirring shit and opposing everything from football to politics.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Here's an idea, instead of wasting my time in firing off pointless questions in some vain attempt to back up your totally pointless argument, why not spend some serious time educating yourself on the history of the Jewish people?
You might realise that they've been persecuted for millenia and not just by Hitler, and its not my argument (which is something you cant seem to get your head around) its a matter of historical record.

The issue on here is that yourself and @Brightonskyblue seem to want to twist every single argument into "your just antisimetic"

You both seem completely beyond educating or rational debate, you clearly have your own warped narrow minded adjenda and no amount of reasoned debate(from anyone on here) is going to change that.
Why don't you educate yourself rather than be a conspiracy nut?

I'm not arguing there aren't rich and influential Jews around the world. But there are also far more influential and rich non-Jews. Jews have been persecuted for millenia, but that just makes it even harder to explain how, despite all these endless persecutions throughout history from Egyptians, through European pagan belief systems, Christianity and Islam, they somehow now rule the world?

And according to you only after WWII. Did they just think after the Holocaust "fuck it, we've been accused of secretly running the world for centuries so if we're going to be accused of it why don't we actually just do it? And just to put people off the scent, shall we continue to look persecuted so no-one suspects us?" Cos do you know what that sounds like? A conspiracy theory.

And it's not us saying that what you've put is antisemitic - it's literally in the definition of antisemitism of a number of organsiations including the ADL and IHRA, which many states use as their basis of what is and is not considered antisemitic.

You're (and please note the correct grammatical spelling) a conspiracy weirdo trying to sound smart. But failing by spelling agenda adjenda and not even being able to spell the thing you're (please note again) arguing about properly. It's not antisimetic, it's antisemitic.
 

PVA

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so we've got Nazi standard anti-Semitic propaganda tropes being wheeled out and some frequent flyers are just cracking a tinnie and hitting refresh. You could at least be consistent with the performative outrage, fellas!


Half this thread: The decision to ban Tel Aviv fans is anti semitic

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That same half of the forum when someone makes actual anti semitic posts:

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Grendel

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Who is they out of interest?
 

Sick Boy

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And why is that do you think?
Why is it that wherever the "wondering jews" went, the same accusations followed?

Just for once, take your antisemitic bullshit hat off, and look at the historic reasons the Jews were subject to such accusations over thousands of years, going back to their subjugation and imprisonment in Egypt over 5000 years ago and their subsequent release after the "passover"

You need to understand a little of their history before you can hope to understand where they stand today.
Otherwise you just sound like @Brightonskyblue just rambling like a clueless twat, or @PVA just being wrong on every possible subject.
Maybe we should just put those 2 clowns in a room together!
Fucking priceless - hahaha
 

duffer

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100% disagree.

I understand a small bit of Arabic and on more than one occasion in Birmingham and London, I’ve heard the word ‘Yahoud’ be chanted at Pro-Pal demos. No social media, that’s being out and about.

We literally had a Syrian migrant called ‘Jihad’ attacked a synagogue a couple of weeks ago and it’s common place for Jewish schools and places of worship to have amped up security. Jewish people across Europe from the UK, France, Germany, the Netherlands an so on feel more unsafe than at any point in recent history. Why is that?



Just out of curiosity, who do you reckon is more radical: the average working class Israeli or Palestinian?

Just out of curiosity, who do you think is more likely to have lost a child killed by bombing, starvation, or lack of medical aid - an average working class Israeli or a Palestinian from Gaza?

And how many pro-Palestinian, anti-genocide rallies have you been on then? You were 'out-and-about' by them, come off it mate, we're not that stupid. 😄

And where did you learn a bit of Arabic, exactly? Is Tommy Robinson teaching it at Sunday school now?

It just seems a bit unlikely that someone with an undisguised animus to Muslims would trouble himself with these things. He might go trawling for it on far right, nut-job, websites though I suppose...
 

duffer

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With respect, anyone who calls Israel’s war ‘genocidal’ but not Hamas’ attack on October 7th 2023 lacks moral clarity or is playing with definitions.

Anyone who doesn't utterly condemn Israel's actions in Gaza has got no morals whatsoever.

You're the one trying to conflate a hideous, unforgivable act that occurred on a single day, with a two-year destruction of an entire country, where even food and medical aid have been denied to a civilian population.

And you're trying to lecture people on "moral clarity"?

Fuck off, that's even funnier than you going on pro-Palestinian matches and learning Arabic.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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Ban Muslims and prevent the right to peaceful protest?

Fuck me, I think you've just shown yourself for what you truly are. Disgusting.

Just saying like.
Why a peaceful protest, it's a football match ffs. Just think you've shown yourself for what you truly are. Just saying like
 

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