It doesn't matter if it was a wild assault or a coordinated assassination, it doesn't matter if he was an innocent bystander or a top commander - it's a war crime
It wasn't a wild assault. It's a coordinated assassination. One one was a top commander or something.
Make no doubt about it, the world is a better place now those 3 people are dead.
It doesn't matter if it was a wild assault or a coordinated assassination, it doesn't matter if he was an innocent bystander or a top commander - it's a war crime
Of course the West had no role in propagating any of thatThat and the fact that it is a melting pot of bat shit crazy religious extremists.
It wasn't a wild assault. It's a coordinated assassination. One one was a top commander or something.
Make no doubt about it, the world is a better place now those 3 people are dead.
That and the fact that it is a melting pot of bat shit crazy religious extremists.
Respect for recognising and acknowledging this.Can't believe some of my earlier views on this after what I've been watching the last few weeks .. I'm sorry .
Fucking horrendous cunts israel
I think people were wholly right to be incensed by that horrific Hamas attack on Israel, but the response has gone way, way beyond the pale. Utterly disgusting behaviour by the Israeli regime.Can't believe some of my earlier views on this after what I've been watching the last few weeks .. I'm sorry .
Fucking horrendous cunts israel
No one can reallyI think people were wholly right to be incensed by that horrific Hamas attack on Israel, but the response has gone way, way beyond the pale. Utterly disgusting behaviour by the Israeli regime.
Genocide. And no-one is doing anything about it.
Well did the American wave through the $10 B subsidy?No one can really
No one can really
Your answer shows why my no one can really is rightSorry Pete but I dont agree.
There's plenty the US and Europe could do, (especially the US), stop sending them billions, stop allowing them influence over American politics that no other country is legally permitted, recognise the Palestinian state, criminalise settlers when they return, (admittedly not a Gaza issue), throw its weight behind the 2 state solution as agreed at the Oslo accord that the far right scuppered by assassinating Rabin.
Admittedly something would still need to be done about Hamas because I cant see how they can be part of a solution but whats happening now isnt the answer.
When the dust settles on this there will be those who opposed genocide and those that supported it.
Shame on all the western politicians who fall in to the latter category.
Even if that's true, Pete, no-one is really condemning Israel from the West.Your answer shows why my no one can really is right
Your answer shows why my no one can really is right
I can say this cause you know I’m a good manEven if that's true, Pete, no-one is really condemning Israel from the West.
It's all very much "oh that's a little bit naughty and are you sure you should be doing this" kind of stuff.
The wording of any opposition is very meek and mild.
They are committing war crimes and that should be made abundantly clear and we need to stop all this "we stand with Israel" nonsense.
We have given them a carte blanche to do whatever they want with no repercussions.
The West has always backed Israel. Seen them as allies and friends. With what is happening now, this has to stop.
I know this is just words, but there should now be utter condemnation of what they are doing.
This has gone way beyond retaliation and defence and protection. This is wiping out an entire population.
I’m sorry I think that he can’t do that - of course even the threat of withholding that in reality would make a difference. It would most likely lose him and the democrats the election to come and unfortunately that’s more important to him than 28000 PalestiniansGenocide Joe just uttered a few meally mouthed words while at the same time giving them 14 billion dollars, you think withholding that wouldn't have an effect on proceedings?
I want to be a force for good but I’m not sure I am - does that make sense?
It’s ok thank you I don’t need that but thank youYou are a good man Pete, I dont think anyone could argue otherwise even if we don't always agree
It is genocide .I think people were wholly right to be incensed by that horrific Hamas attack on Israel, but the response has gone way, way beyond the pale. Utterly disgusting behaviour by the Israeli regime.
Genocide. And no-one is doing anything about it.
It is genocideI see where you're coming from, but reverse it and put a gang of Palestinians storming a hospital in Israel to neutralise an Israeli politician. Do you think that Israel wouldn't call it terrorism?
The one thing I would say is that it's better than bombing and killing innocent civilians in their tens of thousands and displacing and terrifying millions to try to eliminate Hamas. That is indisputably State terrorism if not actually attempted genocide.
We did round up catholics and intern them without charge alanIt is genocide
If the IRA had taken hostages during the troubles and the British govt had sanctioned the armed forces to raze, if necessary, all catholic areas of Belfast, Derry etc to the ground in the " process" of finding the hostages it would have been viewed as an attempt to wipe out the catholic population of Northern Ireland
This is worse. There are over 20,000 dead. .
We did round up catholics and intern them without charge alan
Palestine has a right to exist. WE arranged for it to be stolen from the Palestinians in the first place. The least we can do is to defend them from being wiped off the map altogether.There really is not much that can be done. Israel has the US sewn up politically. People are getting cancelled/sacked just for supporting Palestine, they are so far from the government being able to. The religious right want a war in the Middle East so Jesus can come back or whatever, the neocons just want to kill some ay-rabs and the dems are in an election year and full of Israel supporters otherwise. There’s a huge and very loud Jewish community over there that will jump on anything that’s not 100% support.
The Israel support money was tied to border control and Ukraine and was a package of stuff both sides put together to stop any bit of it being cancelled.
Same to a large extent here but replace religion with just not liking Muslims. But nothing the UK does or says is going to stop them and we don’t have the level of funding to withdraw that would make a difference.
I honestly think Nethenyahu has made the calculation that no one will stop him and the world will forget once Gaza is gone. I’m not sure the Arab bit of the world will though.
Palestine has a right to exist. WE arranged for it to be stolen from the Palestinians in the first place. The least we can do is to defend them from being wiped off the map altogether.
How tho?
It's nearly 30,000 and likely to rise substantially unless something happens to alleviate the situation soon.It is genocide
If the IRA had taken hostages during the troubles and the British govt had sanctioned the armed forces to raze, if necessary, all catholic areas of Belfast, Derry etc to the ground in the " process" of finding the hostages it would have been viewed as an attempt to wipe out the catholic population of Northern Ireland
This is worse. There are over 20,000 dead. .
And the irony is the more Israel attacks and exerts its vengeance, the worse it will be for future generations of Israelis. Netanyahu and his extremists probably even know this but don't care. This is what you get with populist leaders.It is genocide .
Growing up I learned about the holocaust and the way Jewish people were treated etc. I was always somewhat sympathetic to Israel ever since and although I never understood the middle east I empathised with Israel's obsession with a strong military, given the history of it's people.
In less than 4 months that's all gone. I can't help but compare what Israel is doing to what the Nazis did. They want to eradicate all Palestinians and the more they kill.in the name of freeing the hostages the better. The western world sits by and lets it happen .
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