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Israel - Palestinian Conflict (8 Viewers)

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 12:29 PM
  • #7,421
Grendel said:
It will have far less impact than the Ukraine war and China will not allow restricted access to supply for very long

Its clearly a message sent to make Iran a pariah state across the middle east
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Couldn’t the USA have just said that
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:30 PM
  • #7,422
Sky Blue Pete said:
Couldn’t the USA have just said that
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What does that mean??
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 12:35 PM
  • #7,423
CCFCSteve said:
It’s what I was saying at the weekend and the reason I can’t quite work what Trump was thinking especially with the mid terms coming up.
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To be fair Trump could pull out at any time, claim it to be the most successful war ever and half the country would lap it up.

The issue for him will be if gas prices rise and US soldiers start coming home in coffins.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Yesterday at 12:37 PM
  • #7,424
Grendel said:
It will have far less impact than the Ukraine war and China will not allow restricted access to supply for very long

Its clearly a message sent to make Iran a pariah state across the middle east
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Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 12:39 PM
  • #7,425
Grendel said:
It will have far less impact than the Ukraine war and China will not allow restricted access to supply for very long

Its clearly a message sent to make Iran a pariah state across the middle east
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Isn’t the Ukraine war another one you didn’t give a fuck about and couldn’t see how it affected us?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 12:47 PM
  • #7,426
Grendel said:
What does that mean??
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They are a pariah state
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 12:48 PM
  • #7,427
CCFCSteve said:
Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this
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Probably Putin came up with the idea
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:55 PM
  • #7,428
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Isn’t the Ukraine war another one you didn’t give a fuck about and couldn’t see how it affected us?
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Exactly. I didn’t believe in sanctions against Russia and defending Ukraine - what are you on about?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 1:44 PM
  • #7,429
PVA said:
Get ready for your energy bills to skyrocket folks
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Woke nonsense! Our energy costs are going to skyrocket because of the green levies put on them!

Fact that if we'd have invested in renewable energy when we should have rather than saying it just increases people's prices, we'd now have a cleaner, cheaper and far more secure energy infrastructure that wouldn't be as susceptible to shit like this happening.

But, hey, keeping us reliant on fuel sources from unstable regions of the world (which are unstable BECAUSE they have the fuel sources) often run by bad faith actors who artificially keep the price high, was by far the better choice because, y'know, reasons.
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 1:45 PM
  • #7,430
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Woke nonsense! Our energy costs are going to skyrocket because of the green levies put on them!

Fact that if we'd have invested in renewable energy when we should have rather than saying it just increases people's prices, we'd now have a cleaner, cheaper and far more secure energy infrastructure that wouldn't be as susceptible to shit like this happening.

But, hey, keeping us reliant on fuel sources from unstable regions of the world (which are unstable BECAUSE they have the fuel sources) often run by bad faith actors who artificially keep the price high, was by far the better choice because, y'know, reasons.
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no we should - like France - have invested in nuclear energy
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 1:52 PM
  • #7,431
Grendel said:
no we should - like France - have invested in nuclear energy
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It should have ben a bridging option while transitioning.

Renewables are far cheaper, less hazardous and easier to construct long term.

But then of course we'd have still been reliant on other nations building the nuclear plants. China constructing our newest nuclear energy plant isn't in the slightest bit worrying...
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 1:52 PM
  • #7,432
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It should have ben a bridging option while transitioning.

Renewables are far cheaper, less hazardous and easier to construct long term.

But then of course we'd have still been reliant on other nations building the nuclear plants. China constructing our newest nuclear energy plant isn't in the slightest bit worrying...
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Nonsense as usual
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 2:52 PM
  • #7,433
So it is just another enrichment scheme then.


 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 2:53 PM
  • #7,434
PVA said:
So it is just another enrichment scheme then.


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No he genuinely cares about peace in the Middle East
 
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Macca1987

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  • Yesterday at 3:20 PM
  • #7,435
So is this his way of trying again for a Noble Peace Prize
Start a war and then finish it, and then add it to the number of wars he's brokered for peace, I get his logic
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 3:36 PM
  • #7,436
CCFCSteve said:
Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this
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America employment figures are out and they're not great reading, especially long term unemployed which has risen nearly 25% in a year.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 4:09 PM
  • #7,437
CCFCSteve said:
Agree it will have less impact than Ukraine war but depends how long things drag on for. If it’s a couple of months then expect Oct energy cap higher and petrol to spike.

In terms of Trump, the mid terms are in the autumn and after being elected on ‘America first’, if inflation and petrol increase over there because of this, it won’t be well received

Agree China etc will be applying pressure to end this asap. Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but sure I saw that US has removed India’s restriction to buy Russian oil. Putin probably loving all this
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Possibly the real reason for going in wreck everyone's economy just as it appeared to be showing signs,if we can't have it the rest of you can't?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Yesterday at 4:14 PM
  • #7,438
Iran attacking Azerbaijan now.

Azerbaijan furious with Iran as war spills over its border

President Ilham Aliyev says drone strikes are an "act of terror" as he places the armed forces on high alert.
www.bbc.com
 

chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 4:44 PM
  • #7,439
fernandopartridge said:
America employment figures are out and they're not great reading, especially long term unemployed which has risen nearly 25% in a year.
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That's some bigly numbers. So much winning.

What's he going to do next to distract from this?
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 4:45 PM
  • #7,440
chiefdave said:
That's some bigly numbers. So much winning.

What's he going to do next to distract from this?
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Crash us and Europe?
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 4:46 PM
  • #7,441
Is the King still thinking of going over there whenever it is?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Yesterday at 6:17 PM
  • #7,442
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
It should have ben a bridging option while transitioning.

Renewables are far cheaper, less hazardous and easier to construct long term.

But then of course we'd have still been reliant on other nations building the nuclear plants. China constructing our newest nuclear energy plant isn't in the slightest bit worrying...
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The argument doesn’t even stack up in France anymore. Nuclear in France is about €70 a MWh whereas renewables are about €50 a MWh. If France is the example then the example is France backed the wrong horse in Nuclear energy. If you want a good example to follow for the consumer you need to look at somewhere like Spain where they backed renewables and now the consumer is reaping the benefits.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 7:00 PM
  • #7,443
skybluetony176 said:
The argument doesn’t even stack up in France anymore. Nuclear in France is about €70 a MWh whereas renewables are about €50 a MWh. If France is the example then the example is France backed the wrong horse in Nuclear energy. If you want a good example to follow for the consumer you need to look at somewhere like Spain where they backed renewables and now the consumer is reaping the benefits.
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Inflation proofed for 20 years to boot.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 10:29 PM
  • #7,444
 
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