Grendel
Well-Known Member
You’ve stitched yourself up. I don’t care what you believe in but you can’t just keep chatting shit and not get pulled up on it I’m afraid
Please stop embarrassing me on this thread G Dawg! Show mercy
You’ve spun me in circles K man!You’ve stitched yourself up. I don’t care what you believe in but you can’t just keep chatting shit and not get pulled up on it I’m afraid
You’ve spun me in circles K man!
go on how will you react accordinglyNah you’ve done it to yourself and of course unless there’s an answer I’ll assume you are a fundamental Christian and react accordingly
Not at all.It is funny that once I said I was a Christian, people start to question it and make fun,
but whenever anyone criticises any other religions for there beliefs it's different matter.
Goes to show.
go on how will you react accordingly
I have empathy with anyone going through trials. Like those innocents in Gaza or Ukraine that you mocked the demise ofIt depends clearly on what you post. Unfortunately you’ve stated you are of fundamental faith. I accept this is why you have empathy with Islam and why you sympathise with its views on sexuality and marriage.
I assume though you would still oppose it’s bike treatment of women and allowing children to be forced into marriage?
Not at all.
I will question things based on what someone says. You started talking about your faith and beliefs and I asked why you think all the other things that are written into that faith can be ignored. I will ask the same of anyone of any other religion.
Sure, it is easier on here as it's both a bit anonymous and I also feel that people on here will be more open to having those questions asked of them.
Maybe overall it is harder to question the faith of other religions, such as Islam, as they are probably more likely to have a harder or indoctrinated stance on that religion for various cultural reasons. But that's not true of all Muslims and there are many individuals who are fine with having their beliefs questioned and scrutinised, as long as it's done respectfully.
And Christianity is no different. It depends on the person and where you are. In places like this country you can question quite openly but if I went to Bible belt America in this fashion, the response would almost certainly be closer to a fundamentalist Muslim than a moderate Christian.
I have empathy with anyone going through trials. Like those innocents in Gaza or Ukraine that you mocked the demise of
I’m learning from you K Man, are you impressedI think you’d call this a deflection?
Swept under the carpet by who?This Iranian regime have killed tens of thousands of their own people, and what has been going on there has really been swept under the carpet.
I’m learning from you K Man, are you impressed
Irony now! You really are a jack of all trades.No you are just looking embarrassing and ridiculous
It isn’t true that the whole world didn’t give a shit as I keep trying to tell you.As I said, the future of Iran is a very valid talking point and concern. It is not however, a substitute for what has gone on or there, and it is being used as a smokescreen to have a go at Trump. I am not defending him either, I just find it ridiculous that the whole world did not give a shit until the US started doing something, and suddenly there is more outrage towards that, than there is a regime where heavy Islamic law was applied and many tens of thousands of people lost their lives trying to protest and free the country from it.
Regarding Israel, you keep going there and I do see it as a deflection, but it can be relevant. I have got no time for Israel or what they are doing/have done. Netanyahu is rightly wanted by International Crown Court. The actions of them, and the Iranian regime to me are more or less equally abhorrent, and I have said that many times that the fighting needs to stop. If Netanyahu got overthrown, you would be jumping for joy (as would I), not worrying so much about who was coming next as if it might be better to leave him in charge. I guess that qualifies my point quite nicely.
In my opinion, yes.Does this apply to all Muslims as well?
In my opinion, yes.
If you are going to live your life as set out by a particular faith and the teachings of an omnipotent supreme being as written down by people supposedly chosen by that supreme being, you have to believe all of them or you are not truly a believer. You can't pick and choose what suits.
Either God is infallible, in which case everything they have had written down in their name, everything that has happened and everything that is happening is correct. Or if you think some of those things written or that have happened are or have been wrong, then God cannot be infallible and you cannot be a believer.
I’m not a muslim so not bothering to read
Once again what you've decided in your head people have said is nothing like the reality. You're hearing what you want to hear.What is it with the deflection? I haven't defended Trump.
As per usual, this is an attempt to focus on something else as there isn't a counter argument. The fact is that none of you wanted to know about Iran. When it has come up it has made you uncomfortable because you cannot criticise anything remotely Islamic. The fact it was Trump who went in is largely irrelevant, but because it was him, it is the only thing you can find yourselves able to talk about.
I’m not a muslim so not bothering to read
Wow! What a horrendous accusation! Apologise immediately.Oh it’s the same as your views. Gay people are disgusting and a stain on society and will on death go to hell
Wow! What a horrendous accusation! Apologise immediately.
I never said that about homosexuals though!You have said you are a devout Christian who believes in the bible as the word of god.
I never said that about homosexuals though!
Appalling!
A bit like people making a judgement on your inability to answer on your thoughts about Trump on the epstein list!So do you believe in gay marriage? If you don’t answer I guess people will just make a judgement on you won’t they?
Pete Hegseth, the US defence secretary, has taken to the podium at the Pentagon to provide an update on the conflict.
“I stand before you today with one unmistakable message about Operation Epic Fury,” Hegseth said. “America is winning. Decisively, devastatingly and without mercy.”
“We’re playing for keeps,” Hegseth said. “Our war fighters have maximum authorities granted personally by the president and yours truly. Our rules of engagement are bold, precise and designed to unleash American power, not shackle it.
He continued: “This was never meant to be a fair fight and it is not a fair fight. We are punching them while they’re down, which is exactly how it should be.”
Well, no, because as I said if they don't believe that homosexuality is evil or wrong then they're not truly a follower of the religion and they're just kidding themselves that they are because it's more comfortable for them socially and/or psychologically.So I assume all people regardless of religion are homophobic if they believe in this and in breach of uk law?
when they do people dont believe you went anyroadsSwept under the carpet by who?
There's been protests in this country attended by thousands of people prior to the US deciding to go to war.
There's also been early day motions in parliament, some going back years, against the Iranian government.
Sadly the world is a pretty shit place with too many atrocities taking place for most people to keep track of and actively protest against.
Well, no, because as I said if they don't believe that homosexuality is evil or wrong then they're not truly a follower of the religion and they're just kidding themselves that they are because it's more comfortable for them socially and/or psychologically.
If you're a good person and kind, then that's not because you're Christian, or Muslim, or Jew, or whatever. It's just that you're a nice person.
All that 'winning' reminds me of this which popped up on my YouTube feed last nightHegseth is such a fucking weirdo
No. I would call them hardline. Again, they choose the bits they want, only they choose the harshest bits because they want to exert control and this gives them the best opportunity to do so. Messages of compassion and caring don't help suppress dissidents.Mmmm - so I assume you accept countries like Iran are devout?
Works boring me todayis everybody arguing for the sake of it
Are you local?is everybody arguing for the sake of it
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