Brighton Sky Blue
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Trump has broken his own country's laws to do this FFS.
Trump has broken his own country's laws to do this FFS.I’ve tried to be nuanced in my posts on this and the other (Trump) thread if they haven’t come across that way so be it but I was quite clear I didn’t want us involved in any war, thought that Trump will do what’s best for him first and then America and that Netanyahu is a war criminal
The fact is I despise everything that the Islamic state stands for, as much as they despise us (an our way of life) so said they deserve what’s coming to them
If you want lack of nuance maybe look elsewhere
Really Steve? You think we as a nation have shared values with the murderous Israeli state? Maybe in colonial times or even as recently as the 50’s and 60’s when we were committing atrocities in Kenya to try and stop the Mau Mau rebellion but surely we’re better than that as a nation now. I would certainly hope so.But if you’ve got to ‘pick a side’ I’d always go with the one that shares more of our values and beliefs and doesn’t despise our way of life etc and that’s not the Islamic Republic of Iran
I don't see how the State of Israel which has murdered nearly 100,000 people and openly admitted the desire to carry out ethnic cleansing shares our values any more than Iran does.
Even taking that to one side, the US haven't even followed domestic, never mind international law in doing this. Trump has carried out acts of war against Venezuela and Iran without seeking congressional approval. People like you can't even bring themselves to admit that much.
It's not about supporting the regime whatsoever. It's about having broken domestic and international law to assassinate leaders of another country at worst without any plan for whatever happens next or at best, installing an Israeli approved puppet.People like me ?!
If you can’t see the difference between Israel and Iran regime, when I’ve just said the regime chanted ‘Death to England’ last year, punish homosexuals with the death penalty, have fuck all respect for women and their rights and hate our freedoms and way of life, then I worry
Really Steve? You think we as a nation have shared values with the murderous Israeli state? Maybe in colonial times or even as recently as the 50’s and 60’s when we were committing atrocities in Kenya to try and stop the Mau Mau rebellion but surely we’re better than that as a nation now. I would certainly hope so.
It's not about supporting the regime whatsoever. It's about having broken domestic and international law to assassinate leaders of another country at worst without any plan for whatever happens next or at best, installing an Israeli approved puppet.
Just ignore all the killing, destruction and genocidal behaviour of the Israeli regime then. Look, we're just not going to agree on this one-laws and processes should matter, mass murder should matter regardless of who does it.I never said supported. You just said
‘I don't see how the State of Israel which has murdered nearly 100,000 people and openly admitted the desire to carry out ethnic cleansing shares our values any more than Iran does’
I’ve just explained why I disagree. You then start talking about Trump and what might happen with regard to regime change in future again.
irans regime is evil and despotick ill shed no tears if it falls am worried what comes next tho it often gets worse when america tries thisPeople like me ?!
If you can’t see the difference between Israel and Iran regime, when I’ve just said the regime chanted ‘Death to England’ last year, punish homosexuals with the death penalty, have fuck all respect for women and their rights and hate our freedoms and way of life, then I worry
Just ignore all the killing, destruction and genocidal behaviour of the Israeli regime then. Look, we're just not going to agree on this one-laws and processes should matter, mass murder should matter regardless of who does it.
Israel is an apartheid, supremacist state. Why it should be allowed to decide the leaders of other sovereign countries I don't know-perhaps you can enlighten us.
The Iranian people won’t be allowed to choose someone without US or Israeli approval. The Shah’s son is clearly who those countries would prefer.I’d like to think the Iranian people will decide but I guess we’ll have to wait and see what happens. I’m still not convinced the regime will fall but only time will tell
Im not. On the kuensberg show they have an Iranian journalist on the show and she admits she’s genuinely pleased he’s dead.
Guess she’s in the minority
Nope, they just think this inconvenient thing called ‘the law’ should have been followed.I don't think anyone here has said they're upset Khamenei is dead have they?
HahahahahaI sincerely hope the USA etc have a long term plan as this is always the concern with regime change.
Again, this is such an obvious statement that it’s facile. Khamenei deserving what’s coming to him doesn’t automatically make this a successful operation.The fact is I despise everything that the Islamic state stands for, as much as they despise us (an our way of life) so said they deserve what’s coming to them
Cos we've never seen people celebrating in the street about a US invasion only for it to go to absolute shit before, have we...?They are still mainly on the streets praising Trump now. I’m sure that irks you but that seems what’s being reported?
They are still mainly on the streets praising Trump now. I’m sure that irks you but that seems what’s being reported?
Again, this is such an obvious statement that it’s facile. Khamenei deserving what’s coming to him doesn’t automatically make this a successful operation.
The idea that foreign policy is just about picking the ‘sides’ you like and killing the bad guys from the ones you don’t should have died a death in 2003 - apparently not.
Why have we let Netanyahu carry on murdering Palestinians then? What makes one murderer acceptable and the other not?I can understand that there's a skeptical view of who will be in charge next, but that's as far as it should go. Just arguments for the sake of it really.
What is more important is that this regime was barbaric and what they've done to their own people was a disgrace. Some of the behaviour on here is as if it was wrong not to let Khamenei carry on murdering his own citizens, which is really only the case because Trump was the one that helped take him out. It's very strange.
Hopefully the future of Iran is better than what they've had to go through in more recent history. Maybe the Green party can take a lesson from it.
Why have we let Netanyahu carry on murdering Palestinians then? What makes one murderer acceptable and the other not?
I wouldn't worry about it mate.Trump has broken his own country's laws to do this FFS.
Netanyahu's regime is barbaric, what he's done to Palestinians is a disgrace. Some of the behaviour on here is as if it is wrong to not let Netanyahu carry on murdering Palestinian civilians, which is really only the case because he's Trump's mate.So
where has he mentioned Israel?
neither are acceptableWhy have we let Netanyahu carry on murdering Palestinians then? What makes one murderer acceptable and the other not?
Netanyahu's regime is barbaric, what he's done to Palestinians is a disgrace. Some of the behaviour on here is as if it is wrong to not let Netanyahu carry on murdering Palestinian civilians, which is really only the case because he's Trump's mate.
Ignoring the clear double standards, this whole operation is happening not so that Iranians can freely choose who runs the country, it's so Israel can install a puppet leader.
Yet one has been taken out so the other can appoint his successor.neither are acceptable
Yet one has been taken out so the other can appoint his successor.
Of course it's made up, I'm sure if the Iranians select an anti-Western leader he won't be getting scraped up from the pavement either.This is a made up narrative in your head
It’s just bizarre thought processes
I can understand that there's a skeptical view of who will be in charge next, but that's as far as it should go. Just arguments for the sake of it really.
What is more important is that this regime was barbaric and what they've done to their own people was a disgrace. Some of the behaviour on here is as if it was wrong not to let Khamenei carry on murdering his own citizens, which is really only the case because Trump was the one that helped take him out. It's very strange.
Hopefully the future of Iran is better than what they've had to go through in more recent history. Maybe the Green party can take a lesson from it.
well see i think just about all of us can say iran govt pretty bad awful but who the hell would trust trump with replacing itOf course it's made up, I'm sure if the Iranians select an anti-Western leader he won't be getting scraped up from the pavement either.
Maybe you should take a lesson from what's happened in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Libya before you start brainlessly warbling on about the Green party.
It's funny how the same people that hate immigrants from war-torn countries turning up here, are now in such a rush to cheer on another illegal war elsewhere.
The fucking pretence that Trump and Israel are doing this for the benefit of the oppressed Iranians is for the birds, anyone who believes that should probably avoid bridge related purchases for a while.
I'm intrigued that having for ages said why should we care about anything that doesn't happen in the UK, you've now said that actually what happens in the Middle East is now really important for us here.Christ I think you need a break from the internet
I'm intrigued that having for ages said why should we care about anything that doesn't happen in the UK, you've now said that actually what happens in the Middle East is now really important for us here.
What has prompted this Damascene conversion?
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