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Israel - Palestinian Conflict (4 Viewers)

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Captain Dart

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,896
Sky Blue Pete said:
The ayatollah?
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Dougin

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,897
Brilliant. USA USA
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,898
Dougin said:
Brilliant. USA USA
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Far too early for that shit
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,899
Captain Dart said:
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Great news.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,900
Trump making claims I don’t think he can back up
 
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xcraigx

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,901
Trump just announced Khamenei is dead.
 

SBAndy

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,902
xcraigx said:
Trump just announced Khamenei is dead.
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Probably saw it on the telly.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,903
SBT said:

Seems like the US are keeping a level head in all this
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More like septic fury with all those lavs out of action.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,904
Sky Blue Pete said:
Who’s bombing those countries
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Iran American bases.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,905
Grendel said:
Who cares? Are you sad if he’s dead?
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Top analysis here
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,906
Grendel said:
Who cares? Are you sad if he’s dead?
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Why do you care if its not in the UK?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Feb 28, 2026
  • #6,907
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,908
Grendel said:
Who cares? Are you sad if he’s dead?
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My best man and his family in Iran care.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,909
Brighton Sky Blue said:
My best man and his family in Iran care.
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is it not the case that most Iranians want the regime gone?

There are always extremists who won’t but it’s estimated 30,000 died in the protests alone

Iranians take to streets with different reactions to death of supreme leader Ali Khamenei

Deep divides in Iran bubble to the surface as the population reacts to the assassination of Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei.
news.sky.com
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,910
Grendel said:
is it not the case that most Iranians want the regime gone?
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Most Iranians will also not want Israel and the US to dictate who runs their country.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,911
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Most Iranians will also not want Israel and the US to dictate who runs their country.
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They are still mainly on the streets praising Trump now. I’m sure that irks you but that seems what’s being reported?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,912
Ccfcisparks said:
Why do you care if it’s not in the UK?
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Clearly events in the Middle East have direct consequences in the uk - both financially and security wise.

It’s why if it happens you hope it moves swiftly and does not drag on into a long conflict.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,913
Grendel said:
They are still mainly on the streets praising Trump now. I’m sure that irks you but that seems what’s being reported?
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You're trying your best to be mischievous again, but the Iranians I'm speaking to aren't so much mourning the Ayatollah as they are not wanting Israel to decide who runs the country. Which is quite fair enough.

What Trump has done is wildly illegal by the way and yet another thing he should be impeached for.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,914
Grendel said:
They are still mainly on the streets praising Trump now. I’m sure that irks you but that seems what’s being reported?
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Judging the merits of a massive military operation by how happy or sad certain people are at a leader’s death is the kind of analysis you’d expect from a 10 year-old.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,915
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You're trying your best to be mischievous again, but the Iranians I'm speaking to aren't so much mourning the Ayatollah as they are not wanting Israel to decide who runs the country. Which is quite fair enough.

What Trump has done is wildly illegal by the way and yet another thing he should be impeached for.
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Im not. On the kuensberg show they have an Iranian journalist on the show and she admits she’s genuinely pleased he’s dead.

Guess she’s in the minority
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,916
SBT said:
Judging the merits of a massive military operation by how happy or sad certain people are at a leader’s death is the kind of analysis you’d expect from a 10 year-old.
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With respect the whole reaction on here is kindergarten stuff. So why not join in.

Oddly also it’s the first question Kuensberg has asked all the guests on her show!

Guess you should demand she leaves and get a certain heavyweight expert journalist from somewhere in Essex to take over!
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,917
Grendel said:
With respect the whole reaction on here is kindergarten stuff. So why not join in.

Oddly also it’s the first question Kuensberg has asked all the guests on her show!

Guess you should demand she leaves and get a certain heavyweight expert journalist from somewhere in Essex to take over!
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Wow, well if Laura “Kuensberg” says so!

It’s a natural question to ask, but using it as your sole barometer of whether this action is a good or a bad thing is primary school levels of analysis
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,918
Grendel said:
Im not. On the kuensberg show they have an Iranian journalist on the show and she admits she’s genuinely pleased he’s dead.

Guess she’s in the minority
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People in Libya were delighted about Gaddafi's death
People in Iraq were delighted about Saddam's capture
People in Syria were delighted about Assad's removal

How did things go in those countries afterwards? My point is that when on one side you have Israel who have murdered nearly 100,000 people in Gaza (which now apparently matters after months of you asking why we should care), and an Iranian regime who have killed huge numbers of their own people, who actually are the 'goodies' here?

Nobody is. But it is still US law that Congress has to give approval for war-Trump hasn't sought it.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,919
Grendel said:
With respect the whole reaction on here is kindergarten stuff. So why not join in.

Oddly also it’s the first question Kuensberg has asked all the guests on her show!

Guess you should demand she leaves and get a certain heavyweight expert journalist from somewhere in Essex to take over!
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Kindergarten?!
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,920
SBT said:
Wow, well if Laura “Kuensberg” says so!

It’s a natural question to ask, but using it as your sole barometer of whether this action is a good or a bad thing is primary school levels of analysis
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Well I guess if you think she’s a 10 year old fair enough. She’s asked it to Zack Polanski - he seems less keen
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,921
Grendel said:
Clearly events in the Middle East have direct consequences in the uk - both financially and security wise.

It’s why if it happens you hope it moves swiftly and does not drag on into a long conflict.
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This is quite literally incredible.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,922
Ccfcisparks said:
Kindergarten?!
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I think one gem is Trump is attacking Iran to deflect from the Epstein files
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,923
Grendel said:
I think one gem is Trump is attacking Iran to deflect from the Epstein files
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I do not care for the Epstein files
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,924
Grendel said:
Well I guess if you think she’s a 10 year old fair enough. She’s asked it to Zack Polanski - he seems less keen
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Well if I guess if you’re used to watching the Jeremy Vine show she must seem like a heavyweight

Are you wearing your Greens rosette while tuning in?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,925
Brighton Sky Blue said:
who actually are the 'goodies' here?
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Certainly not the ones that chanted ‘death to England’ last year

There’s no real goodies in the world. It’s unfortunately not that simple. But if you’ve got to ‘pick a side’ I’d always go with the one that shares more of our values and beliefs and doesn’t despise our way of life etc and that’s not the Islamic Republic of Iran
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,926
CCFCSteve said:
Certainly not the ones that chanted ‘death to England’ last year

There’s no real goodies in the world. It’s unfortunately not that simple. But if you’ve got to ‘pick a side’ I’d always go with the one that shares more of our values and beliefs and doesn’t despise our way of life etc and that’s not the Islamic Republic of Iran
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I don't see how the State of Israel which has murdered nearly 100,000 people and openly admitted the desire to carry out ethnic cleansing shares our values any more than Iran does.

Even taking that to one side, the US haven't even followed domestic, never mind international law in doing this. Trump has carried out acts of war against Venezuela and Iran without seeking congressional approval. People like you can't even bring themselves to admit that much.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,927
CCFCSteve said:
But if you’ve got to ‘pick a side’ I’d always go with the one that shares more of our values and beliefs and doesn’t despise our way of life etc
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Between this kind of stuff and “people are celebrating so the war is good” I feel like we’re on some kind of 2003 speedrun. Amazing how quickly the nuance disappears.
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,928
CCFCSteve said:
Certainly not the ones that chanted ‘death to England’ last year

There’s no real goodies in the world. It’s unfortunately not that simple. But if you’ve got to ‘pick a side’ I’d always go with the one that shares more of our values and beliefs and doesn’t despise our way of life etc and that’s not the Islamic Republic of Iran
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its fair to be worried what comes next tho just hop it turns out ok and if not we dont decide people running away are all rapists
 
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Il Pirata

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,929
SBT said:

Seems like the US are keeping a level head in all this
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Operation Epstein Fury
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 1, 2026
  • #6,930
SBT said:
Between this kind of stuff and “people are celebrating so the war is good” I feel like we’re on some kind of 2003 speedrun. Amazing how quickly the nuance disappears.
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I’ve tried to be nuanced in my posts on this and the other (Trump) thread if they haven’t come across that way so be it but I was quite clear I didn’t want us involved in any war, thought that Trump will do what’s best for him first and then America and that Netanyahu is a war criminal

The fact is I despise everything that the Islamic state stands for, as much as they despise us (an our way of life) so said they deserve what’s coming to them

If you want lack of nuance maybe look elsewhere
 
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