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David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 3:11 PM
  • #6,476
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Understood. Can I just clarify this point: is a city that is manufacturing and transportation hub a legitimate military targets? Simple yes or no will suffice.
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Yes but the war crime is the destruction of everything to get at the targets. Something Israel is also guilty of

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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 3:19 PM
  • #6,477
David O'Day said:
Yes but the war crime is the destruction of everything to get at the targets. Something Israel is also guilty of

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This is good stuff actually. When Hamas builds tunnels underneath the entirety of Gaza (transportation hub), repurposed aid for military use and stores weapons in civilian areas such as schools, residential flats, hospitals and places of worship…

… Can you not see how the blurring between civilian and military targets is a problem for a military force?

To bring it back to Dresden. The military justification was tenuous and in any case, you’d need to accept that to destroy these manufacturing and transportation hubs, civilians would need to die to achieve that.

This is actually a good argument for the collateral damage doctrine…

A hilarious turn of events.
 

mmttww

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  • Yesterday at 3:29 PM
  • #6,478
so to make sure I'm keeping up, because parallels can be drawn between the Allied bombing of Dresden and the war in Gaza, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans should be allowed to travel to Villa Park?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 3:31 PM
  • #6,479
mmttww said:
so to make sure I'm keeping up, because parallels can be drawn between the Allied bombing of Dresden and the war in Gaza, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans should be allowed to travel to Villa Park?
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Just don't mention the Legia Warsaw fans not being allowed into Villa Park last season, that might confuse the argument
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 3:33 PM
  • #6,480
And it also turns out the Home Office were aware of it last week.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 3:36 PM
  • #6,481
chiefdave said:
Just don't mention the Legia Warsaw fans not being allowed into Villa Park last season, that might confuse the argument
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Actually, let’s talk about that because it was related to Legia Warsaw fans clashing with the police before the match. As a result, UEFA then banned them for 5 away matches.

If Tel Aviv fans got to Birmingham, kicked off with police badly then being denied entry is a reasonable response.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Yesterday at 3:37 PM
  • #6,482
Sick Boy said:
And it also turns out the Home Office were aware of it last week.
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Another U-turn for this government? Shock, horror.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 3:41 PM
  • #6,483
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Another U-turn for this government? Shock, horror.
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Well, no.

"Following this, the Home Office were briefed last week by the UKFPU about the potential issues and options that the Safety Advisory Group (SAG) may take including restrictions on visiting fans."

So they were briefed about potential issues and options. They were not told that away fans would be banned.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 3:52 PM
  • #6,484
L
fernandopartridge said:
The home office has lost its appeal to stop a judicial review into the proscription of Palestine Action

Legal challenge to Palestine Action ban can go ahead, court rules

Judges reject Home Office attempt to block judicial review of group’s proscription under Terrorism Act
www.theguardian.com
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I sense a compensation package if nothing else???
 

David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 3:58 PM
  • #6,485
mmttww said:
so to make sure I'm keeping up, because parallels can be drawn between the Allied bombing of Dresden and the war in Gaza, Maccabi Tel Aviv fans should be allowed to travel to Villa Park?
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mad innit, the lengths some will go to justify war crimes
 

David O'Day

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  • Yesterday at 4:00 PM
  • #6,486
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Another U-turn for this government? Shock, horror.
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no, to be fair that isn't what happened
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Yesterday at 4:09 PM
  • #6,487
MusicDating said:
The Maccabi fans seem a lovely lot

Israeli football fans and the violence in Amsterdam: what we know

The trouble in the Netherlands when Maccabi Tel Aviv played Ajax last week horrified people around the world
www.theguardian.com
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They are a bunch of cunts, no arguments with that all.

The issue is that the story didn't start there though, and again, with some basic research you can see that the Guardian is only reporting half the story and rewinding the clock back to where it suits, not where is appropriate. It is a disgraceful set of journalism if you want to call it that. No real mention of the large crowds of Muslim people hunting down jews (that is what they called it themselves) or any of the threats and posts online that predated all of this. Then of course the aftermath is that 'Dutch nationals were arrested', which only the simple minded cannot decipher.

Amsterdam is a great city, but it really has some serious integration problems in parts. Birmingham is even worse, and doesn't even have the nice bits either.
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 4:44 PM
  • #6,488
Sick Boy said:
HAHAHAHA fucking hell
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Again fuck all from you.
Stupid gifs and mock outrage won't cover over your complete ignorance mate.

You keep trying though!
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 4:45 PM
  • #6,489
Brighton Sky Blue said:
1. You said that Jews run the world.
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That's not antisemitic, you bell end!
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 4:51 PM
  • #6,490
fatso said:
That's not antisemitic, you bell end!
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Of course it is.

International Jewish conspiracy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion


You are literally parroting Hitler for fuck sake.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 4:51 PM
  • #6,491
Sick Boy said:
@fatso if Jews control the world, why did the holocaust happen?
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Come on @fatso - don't be shy.
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 5:10 PM
  • #6,492
Sick Boy said:
Come on @fatso - don't be shy.
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I hate to break this to you, but the holocaust happened long before the Jewish nation set out to infiltrate (quite openly) the world of global finance intelligence and politics.
This was done in order to make sure that they were never again to be subject to the horrors inflicted by the Nazis.

I've openly pointed out on here the people behind global banking, and in America the Jewish lobby is one of the most powerful political lobbies there is. Go and research who it was that bailed Trump out when he went bankrupt.

As for intelligence, Mosad is credited with being the world's best intelligence network.

I could go on, but its fair to say the Influence they excert is truelly global and far reaching.
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 5:11 PM
  • #6,493
PVA said:
Of course it is.

International Jewish conspiracy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion


You are literally parroting Hitler for fuck sake.
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Ha ha, PVA wrong again!!! There's a suprise.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 5:13 PM
  • #6,494
fatso said:
Ha ha, PVA wrong again!!! There's a suprise.
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Any chance of engaging in an actual discussion?

Which bits of those links do you disagree with?

Do you admit that you're spouting the same stuff Hitler did?
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 5:18 PM
  • #6,495
PVA said:
Any chance of engaging in an actual discussion?

Which bits of those links do you disagree with?

Do you admit that you're spouting the same stuff Hitler did?
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It’s actually very similar to the same stuff Ken Livingstone spouted in the early 80’s
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:18 PM
  • #6,496
Any of the posters pretending to be deeply concerned about anti Semitism, feel free to jump in at any time.
 
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fatso

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  • Yesterday at 5:22 PM
  • #6,497
PVA said:
Any chance of engaging in an actual discussion?

Which bits of those links do you disagree with?

Do you admit that you're spouting the same stuff Hitler did?
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Before engaging, you would have to go and research what the Jewish people set out to do after WW2 to guarantee their survival.

Unless your prepared to educate yourself on that first, it would be a complete waste of time.

Hitler was pointing the finger of blame for all the German people's woes on the Jews in order to unite his people against them and behind the Nazis, this culminated in "Krystalinacht" the rest as they say is history.

What you are referencing is an outdated and at the time untrue piece of nazi propaganda,
After the war the Jewish people secured their own land (thanks to Britain) and sought to gain global influence to prevent them ever being subject to tyranny again.
This they have done with great success.

Ftao Brighton sky blue, this is not antisemitic, its purely a statement of historic fact.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:23 PM
  • #6,498
fatso said:
I hate to break this to you, but the holocaust happened long before the Jewish nation set out to infiltrate (quite openly) the world of global finance intelligence and politics.
This was done in order to make sure that they were never again to be subject to the horrors inflicted by the Nazis.

I've openly pointed out on here the people behind global banking, and in America the Jewish lobby is one of the most powerful political lobbies there is. Go and research who it was that bailed Trump out when he went bankrupt.

As for intelligence, Mosad is credited with being the world's best intelligence network.

I could go on, but its fair to say the Influence they excert is truelly global and far reaching.
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If I'm not mistaken, you're arguing that because of the Holocaust, which the Nazi's blamed because the Jews were controlling finance and politics causing huge problems for the German population, Jews decided they were going to control banking and politics?
 

fatso

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  • Yesterday at 5:23 PM
  • #6,499
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Any of the posters pretending to be deeply concerned about anti Semitism, feel free to jump in at any time.
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Any one with more than one brain cell isnt going to jump to the defence of the forums 2 biggest bell ends mate
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 5:24 PM
  • #6,500
fatso said:
That's not antisemitic, you bell end!
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I think it might be a tinsy bit
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 5:24 PM
  • #6,501
fatso said:
Before engaging, you would have to go and research what the Jewish people set out to do after WW2 to guarantee their survival.

Unless your prepared to educate yourself on that first, it would be a complete waste of time.

Hitler was pointing the finger of blame for all the German people's woes on the Jews in order to unite his people against them and behind the Nazis, this culminated in "Krystalinacht" the rest as they say is history.

What you are referencing is an outdated and at the time untrue piece of nazi propaganda,
After the war the Jewish people secured their own land (thanks to Britain) and sought to gain global influence to prevent them ever being subject to tyranny again.
This they have done with great success.

Ftao Brighton sky blue, this is not antisemitic, its purely a statement of historic fact.
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It's a trope that goes back hundreds and hundreds of years.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:26 PM
  • #6,502
fatso said:
Any one with more than one brain cell isnt going to jump to the defence of the forums 2 biggest bell ends mate
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Ah shit. That rules @SkyBlueDom26 out.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:35 PM
  • #6,503
fatso said:
Before engaging, you would have to go and research what the Jewish people set out to do after WW2 to guarantee their survival.

Unless your prepared to educate yourself on that first, it would be a complete waste of time.

Hitler was pointing the finger of blame for all the German people's woes on the Jews in order to unite his people against them and behind the Nazis, this culminated in "Krystalinacht" the rest as they say is history.

What you are referencing is an outdated and at the time untrue piece of nazi propaganda,
After the war the Jewish people secured their own land (thanks to Britain) and sought to gain global influence to prevent them ever being subject to tyranny again.
This they have done with great success.

Ftao Brighton sky blue, this is not antisemitic, its purely a statement of historic fact.
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Yes it's outdated and untrue. Glad we agree on that at least.

So why the fuck are you still spouting it?
 
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Dougin

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:36 PM
  • #6,504
Starmer it’s just full of shit. Of course he wants the fans banned, he just comes out and says he doesn’t.

He lies. just like Netanyahu said your leaders say one thing to me but then say the opposite to you.

it’s like the courts thing for the Southport riot, he said he has no control over them but then everyone was being fast tracked quicker than a tramp chasing a bag of chips.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 5:37 PM
  • #6,505
Dougin said:
Starmer it’s just full of shit. Of course he wants the fans banned, he just comes out and says he doesn’t.

He lies. just like Netanyahu said your leaders say one thing to me but then say the opposite to you.

it’s like the courts thing for the Southport riot, he said he has no control over them but then everyone was being fast tracked quicker than a tramp chasing a bag of chips.
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Why would he want them banned?
 
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Dougin

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:43 PM
  • #6,506
Sick Boy said:
Why would he want them banned?
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Because he loves Muslims as they vote for labour.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:43 PM
  • #6,507
PVA said:
Yes it's outdated and untrue. Glad we agree on that at least.

So why the fuck are you still spouting it?
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Because the Jews run the world but they apparently don’t run Aston Villa
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:44 PM
  • #6,508
Dougin said:
Starmer it’s just full of shit. Of course he wants the fans banned, he just comes out and says he doesn’t.

He lies. just like Netanyahu said your leaders say one thing to me but then say the opposite to you.

it’s like the courts thing for the Southport riot, he said he has no control over them but then everyone was being fast tracked quicker than a tramp chasing a bag of chips.
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Are you trying to claim Kier Starmer with his Jewish wife and kids is anti Jewish?

That's a good one.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 5:46 PM
  • #6,509
Double Bluff?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:52 PM
  • #6,510
Dougin said:
Because he loves Muslims as they vote for labour.
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They don't, did you not follow the voting patterns at the last election? There has been a swing away from Labour in the muslim community due to Starmer being seen as too pro Israel.

In fact one of the seats they lost to a Gaza independent was in Brum so it makes no sense if he wants to appease Muslims at any cost to do something they would hate.
 
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