I doubt the issue is they think they will be attacked by the Villa firm.I know you like to blame everything on immigration, but football fans from different countries have been kicking the shit out of each other for decades.
I also have no doubt that a Russian team playing a competitive game in the UK in this environment would probably require a pretty serious security operation, and I’m not sure why you’d claim it wouldn’t?
now admitting to being anti semitic
You think more islam is good ?Why is this an “issue”?
I know you like to blame everything on immigration, but football fans from different countries have been kicking the shit out of each other for decades.
I also have no doubt that a Russian team playing a competitive game in the UK in this environment would probably require a pretty serious security operation, and I’m not sure why you’d claim it wouldn’t?
No, you’re right - I just think the idea that that European fixtures used to be these happy clappy trouble-free games in the early 2000s just doesn’t hold water.I doubt the issue is they think they will be attacked by the Villa firm.
More extremist Islam is bad if that’s what you mean. I’m not religious so I don’t especially want ‘more’ of any of them tbh, but I don’t see any religion as inherently good or bad.You think more islam is good ?
Muslims allowed to the game through?You think a load of Muslims and a load of Israelis would get on fine and it would pass without incident?
I definitely see some religions as less progressive and more backward thinking than others , and in a progressive society i dont want more of itMore extremist Islam is bad if that’s what you mean. I’m not religious so I don’t especially want ‘more’ of any of them tbh, but I don’t see any religion as inherently good or bad.
no, dont think more Judaism is eitherYou think more islam is good ?
There are 2100 jews in birmingham , 75% less than there once wasn
no, dont think more Judaism is either
They surely would in certain countries. As I’ve said earlier in this thread, I don’t agree with that, but surely some club would ban them for fear of trouble.If Russian and/or Ukrainian fans were allowed to travel for sporting events, they wouldn’t be banned for their safety.
Good, hopefully replaced with Christians.There are 2100 jews in birmingham , 75% less than there once was
Or athiests ehGood, hopefully replaced with Christians.
Not really. We are a Christian country.Or athiests eh
Less and less each decade .Not really. We are a Christian country.
Exactly. Shame.Less and less each decade .
Not for me . Maybe for youExactly. Shame.
There are extremely un-progressive groups in all religions - Islam, Judaism, Christianity, whatever - but when you’re talking about a minority within a minority then I wouldn’t use their views to say I want ‘more Islam’ or ‘‘less Judaism’ or whatever. And as I say, I don’t believe in any of it anyway.I definitely see some religions as less progressive and more backward thinking than others , and in a progressive society i dont want more of it
The idea an orthodox jew is progressive is hilariousThere are extremely un-progressive groups in all religions - Islam, Judaism, Christianity, whatever - but when you’re talking about a minority within a minority then I wouldn’t use their views to say I want ‘more Islam’ or ‘‘less Judaism’ or whatever. And as I say, I don’t believe in any of it anyway.
Generally agree with what you're saying here.
The issue in this instance is obviously that Birmingham is made up of 30% Muslims.
That seems like an absolute tinder box just ready to ignite (from both sides).
Fuck all religion, it’s a fantasy.
Neither do iThere are extremely un-progressive groups in all religions - Islam, Judaism, Christianity, whatever - but when you’re talking about a minority within a minority then I wouldn’t use their views to say I want ‘more Islam’ or ‘‘less Judaism’ or whatever. And as I say, I don’t believe in any of it anyway.
If we cut to the chase , the reason their fans have been banned is because the local authorities cant guarantee their safety because birmingham has a very large muslim population that will probably be out for blood .There are extremely un-progressive groups in all religions - Islam, Judaism, Christianity, whatever - but when you’re talking about a minority within a minority then I wouldn’t use their views to say I want ‘more Islam’ or ‘‘less Judaism’ or whatever. And as I say, I don’t believe in any of it anyway.
So what happens when more and more of the uk becomes more Muslim, can the Israel fans be banned from all these cities.If we cut to the chase , the reason their fans have been banned is because the local authorities cant guarantee their safety because birmingham has a very large muslim popilation that will probably be out for blood .
Isnt this the truth ?
i must have missed this. are the muslim community in birmingham planning something for before the game?If we cut to the chase , the reason their fans have been banned is because the local authorities cant guarantee their safety because birmingham has a very large muslim population that will probably be out for blood .
Isnt this the truth ?
In which case I probably wouldn’t think to ask whether you thought ‘More religious people’ of a certain type was a good thing - unless you had a problem with a particular kind then I assume your answer would be the same each time.Neither do i
i must have missed this. are the muslim community in birmingham planning something for before the game?
You say that the issue is that Birmingham is made up of 30% Muslims.Generally agree with what you're saying here.
The issue in this instance is obviously that Birmingham is made up of 30% Muslims.
That seems like an absolute tinder box just ready to ignite (from both sides).
oh so no evidence they’ll be out for blood thenLocal MPs had been rallying around the local community stoking tensions
Well yes - that and the fact that the Maccabi Tel Aviv fans also have a track record of racist violence themselves.If we cut to the chase , the reason their fans have been banned is because the local authorities cant guarantee their safety because birmingham has a very large muslim population that will probably be out for blood .
Isnt this the truth ?
Well if there is no worry about violence then why are they banned and why are other ultra groups not banned from attending games in birmingham .oh so no evidence they’ll be out for blood then
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