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Is the United Kingdom a country? (3 Viewers)

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  • Start date Aug 23, 2021
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #36
COV said:
I haven’t even got a clue if you two are agreeing or disagreeing
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Was always going to be difficult as soon as politics came into it. Has always and always will be the same.

And a lot of people don't know that the head of the British government is the Queen. But I don't ever think she has gone against anything put forward to her.

What was the original question again?
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #37
Dog said:
What was the original question again?
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Is the UK a country.
I still don’t know
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #38
robbiekeane said:
Is the UK a country.
I still don’t know
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No it isn't
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #39
Is it a nation? We say nationality as British yet we speak about the home nations ?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #40
Evo1883 said:
Hmm, a political union maybe so .

But it's 4 individual countries.. not 1 or are we classing the UK as 5 countries in total including the collective
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The north of Ireland is a province.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #41
It's an imagined community.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #42
The U.K. is a country. If you mean a country is something that passes the tests for statehood. It’s as much a country as Germany or the Netherlands or the US. It doesn’t have to answer to anyone else like the EU does.

England/Scotland/Wales are countries if you mean the broader definition of country, but they cannot make laws on their own as they are subordinate to the U.K. so don’t pass the tests for statehood. They’re closer to the States in the US, except England doesn’t even have a government so in many ways is less of a country than say Texas.

The problem is the definition of the word country, dictionary says:



No government: not a country. So England fails that definition.

The EU is nothing like the U.K. because the EU can’t pass laws, it can only request that it’s members do so, it’s more a collection of trade deals and treaties. Like the WTO.
 

Dog

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  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #43
shmmeee said:
The U.K. is a country. If you mean a country is something that passes the tests for statehood. It’s as much a country as Germany or the Netherlands or the US. It doesn’t have to answer to anyone else like the EU does.

England/Scotland/Wales are countries if you mean the broader definition of country, but they cannot make laws on their own as they are subordinate to the U.K. so don’t pass the tests for statehood. They’re closer to the States in the US, except England doesn’t even have a government so in many ways is less of a country than say Texas.

The problem is the definition of the word country, dictionary says:

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No government: not a country. So England fails that definition.

The EU is nothing like the U.K. because the EU can’t pass laws, it can only request that it’s members do so, it’s more a collection of trade deals and treaties. Like the WTO.
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Are you saying England isn't a country?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #44
shmmeee said:
England/Scotland/Wales are countries if you mean the broader definition of country, but they cannot make laws on their own as they are subordinate to the U.K. so don’t pass the tests for statehood.
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Dog said:
Are you saying England isn't a country?
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Classic.
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #45
Sick Boy said:
Classic.
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Are you also Grendel on here? You both seem to be following me a lot.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #46
Dog said:
Are you also Grendel on here? You both seem to be following me a lot.
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Still playing the victim then.
 

Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #47
Sick Boy said:
Still playing the victim then.
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Should have remained a lurker on here. It has been funny watching everyone pull each other apart for years. But it seems that Grendel makes comments nobody believes until they have a reason to want to believe. Most new posters are given a hard time by some.

Will leave you to your fantasies.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #48
Dog said:
Should have remained a lurker on here. It has been funny watching everyone pull each other apart for years. But it seems that Grendel makes comments nobody believes until they have a reason to want to believe. Most new posters are given a hard time by some.

Will leave you to your fantasies.
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Astute observation of you.
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #49
Ian1779 said:
Astute observation of you.
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It isn't hard to make an observation like this. The lad who posted about becoming a supporter from Liverpool had various accusations put forward. It seems to be the norm.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #50
Dog said:
Should have remained a lurker on here. It has been funny watching everyone pull each other apart for years. But it seems that Grendel makes comments nobody believes until they have a reason to want to believe. Most new posters are given a hard time by some.

Will leave you to your fantasies.
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You should have just logged back in with your original account rather than making up weird fantasises of your own.
 

Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #51
Sick Boy said:
You should have just logged back in with your original account rather than making up weird fantasises of your own.
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And I wondered why no new members stuck around.

Grendel, who I can't work out if is just lonely or a sad individual who spends his whole life on here winding people up puts a list of others to aim at. Then the sheep follow.

Sad really.

Oh well. Will I see you at QPR or are you only here to wind people up?
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #52
No reply but just an emoji? You going to QPR? Will make it a one off and show you who I am. Travelling down from Coventry on Friday night. Staying with family. Travelling back Sunday.

Or are you just on here for the wind up?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #53
Dog said:
No reply but just an emoji? You going to QPR? Will make it a one off and show you who I am. Travelling down from Coventry on Friday night. Staying with family. Travelling back Sunday.

Or are you just on here for the wind up?
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I’m not really into meeting up with men hiding behind fake accounts on the internet, thanks though.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #54
Sick Boy said:
I’m not really into meeting up with men hiding behind fake accounts on the internet, thanks though.
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tbf, you do know who he is.
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #55
And there you go. Just a wind up.

And while we are at it is the avatar you use supposed to be yourself? You say you are over here from Italy but are not going to games? Yet you spend hours each day on here.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #56
Dog said:
And there you go. Just a wind up.

And while we are at it is the avatar you use supposed to be yourself? You say you are over here from Italy but are not going to games? Yet you spend hours each day on here.
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Weird you’d know so much about me as a new forum member. Unfortunately I am only until the early hours or Saturday morning.
Yeah I see myself as ‘The Dude’.
 

Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #57
Sick Boy said:
Weird you’d know so much about me as a new forum member. Unfortunately I am only until the early hours or Saturday morning.
Yeah I see myself as ‘The Dude’.
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You put the information up about yourself. Click on your name and you say you live in Verona. You said you have come over.

So is the avatar you use supposed to be yourself?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #58
Dog said:
Are you saying England isn't a country?
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Depends on your definition. By the dictionary, no it isn’t because it doesn’t have its own govenrment. But colloquially of course it is. England can’t make trade deals like Scotland can’t or Texas can’t. It’s not independent. It follows U.K. law.

The problem is country can mean as little as “region” or as much as “independent state”. It’s not a well defined word.

But England is to the U.K. as Holland is to the Netherlands, not as the Netherlands is to the EU.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #59
Dog said:
You put the information up about yourself. Click on your name and you say you live in Verona. You said you have come over.

So is the avatar you use supposed to be yourself?
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Yeah I see myself as Jeff Bridges.
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #60
shmmeee said:
Depends on your definition. By the dictionary, no it isn’t because it doesn’t have its own govenrment. But colloquially of course it is. England can’t make trade deals like Scotland can’t or Texas can’t. It’s not independent. It follows U.K. law.

The problem is country can mean as little as “region” or as much as “independent state”. It’s not a well defined word.

But England is to the U.K. as Holland is to the Netherlands, not as the Netherlands is to the EU.
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Just the same as the UK is only a country by definition but isn't really a country.

Quite funny really as Scotland has a government and Wales has a government so by definition are more of a country than England is. But the UK government sits in England.

If I ask you what country you come from what would your reply be?
 

Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #61
Sick Boy said:
Yeah I see myself as Jeff Bridges.
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So let me get this right.

I am happy to show my profile isn't fake to someone with a longstanding fake profile.

Or is your profile picture not you?

Also quite strange how you proudly announce you have just arrived but only mention you are quickly leaving before a game.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #62
Dog said:
So let me get this right.

I am happy to show my profile isn't fake to someone with a longstanding fake profile.

Or is your profile picture not you?

Also quite strange how you proudly announce you have just arrived but only mention you are quickly leaving before a game.
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Is your profile picture you?
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #63
Deleted member 5849 said:
Is your profile picture you?
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I'm not saying anything about being Lassie. Of Jeff Lassie even.

I know how weird this place gets. Hardly miss a game home or away. Don't want to be noticed by some people on here. But I am not going around the houses trying not to answer a straight question.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #64
Dog said:
I know how weird this place gets.
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tbf, it's got a lot weirder recently.
 
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Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #65
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, it's got a lot weirder recently.
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I agree. Some people seem more interested in fake profiles than the excellent start we have had.

And a longstanding fake profile accusing others of having a fake profile. You couldn't make it up.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #66
Dog said:
I agree. Some people seem more interested in fake profiles than the excellent start we have had.

And a longstanding fake profile accusing others of having a fake profile. You couldn't make it up.
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How can you agree if you are new here?
 

Dog

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #67
Skybluefaz said:
How can you agree if you are new here?
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Longtime lurker. Been tempted for ages.

Best place to find out the information I needed quickly. Many minds are better than one. The idea of the Internet is to use it to the max. But many people would be shocked at what you can find out if you look and would think twice about everything they do.

A simple way of looking at it. How many times have you been surprised by even Facebook? Everything you do can be followed. Everything you do can be checked.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #68
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf, it's got a lot weirder recently.
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This thread is bonkers.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #69
I have trouble believing that anyone lurking here for any period of time would ever be tempted to sign up, if anything people with accounts would have a rapidly growing sense of regret.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #70
COV said:
This thread is bonkers.
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Sorry to disappoint you I’m not Jeff Bridges.
 
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