rob9872
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Fairest for you
Fairest for youBeen through all of this before.
For those who have not been able to justify having a season ticket for differing undestandable reasons over the previous qualifying seasons are in all practicality 'shut out' of almost all games. The only ones that can be attended are those that are midweek away and the couple of those games away with big allocations such Sheff Wednesday and Stoke in cup and Im sure Blackburn.
I have over 900 points and only got to Preston, Sheffied Wednesday and Stoke in FA cup. This is someone who has been to countless home and away games over a very long time period. Some games were possible to get tickets for but not practical with being midweek and more than 200 plus miles away from me .
Cant be 100% but this is my analysis so far for someone with 900 points and likely situation should we continue being in contention for direct promotion.
Impossible
Saturday 16th (3pm) – Derby County (A)
Saturday 30th (3pm) - Oxford United (A)
Saturday 20th (3pm) – Leicester City (A)
Saturday 1st (3pm) – Wrexham (A)
Saturday 8th (3pm) – Stoke City (A)
Saturday 6th (3pm) – Ipswich Town (A)
Saturday 20th (3pm) – Southampton (A)
Sunday 4th (3pm) – Birmingham City (A)
Not sure what happened with this match
Thursday 1st (3pm) – Charlton Athletic (A)
Possible
Wednesday 1st (7:45pm) – Millwall (A)
Saturday 4th (3pm) – Sheffield Wednesday (A)
Tuesday 21st (7:45pm) – Portsmouth (A)
Tuesday 25th (7:45pm) – Middlesbrough (A)
Tuesday 9th (7:45pm) – Preston North End (A)
Future game predictions
Monday 27th (3pm) – Norwich City (A) possible
Saturday 31st (3pm) – Queens Park Rangers (A) impossible
Saturday 21st (3pm) – West Bromwich Albion (A) impossible
Wednesday 25th (7:45pm) – Sheffield United (A) unlikely
Saturday 7th (3pm) – Bristol City (A) very unlikely or likely is switched to midweek
Saturday 21st (3pm) – Swansea City (A) very unlikely
Monday 6th (3pm) – Hull City (A) very unlikely
Saturday 18th (3pm) – Blackburn Rovers (A) possible
Saturday 2nd (12:30pm) – Watford (A) impossible
So on current scheduling estimate only 7 games available this season to me with 5 of them on a week day and 16 in all likelihood being impossible.
Fairest way is a ballot or at least a partial ballot when some tickets are kept to one side to allow a small portion of different people to go.
Sorry if its long but I thought I would just try and do some proper analysis.
If you’re not committing to going to all home games (by buying a ST) why do you need to go to away ones?Been through all of this before.
For those who have not been able to justify having a season ticket for differing undestandable reasons over the previous qualifying seasons are in all practicality 'shut out' of almost all games. The only ones that can be attended are those that are midweek away and the couple of those games away with big allocations such Sheff Wednesday and Stoke in cup and Im sure Blackburn.
I have over 900 points and only got to Preston, Sheffied Wednesday and Stoke in FA cup. This is someone who has been to countless home and away games over a very long time period. Some games were possible to get tickets for but not practical with being midweek and more than 200 plus miles away from me .
Cant be 100% but this is my analysis so far for someone with 900 points and likely situation should we continue being in contention for direct promotion.
Impossible
Saturday 16th (3pm) – Derby County (A)
Saturday 30th (3pm) - Oxford United (A)
Saturday 20th (3pm) – Leicester City (A)
Saturday 1st (3pm) – Wrexham (A)
Saturday 8th (3pm) – Stoke City (A)
Saturday 6th (3pm) – Ipswich Town (A)
Saturday 20th (3pm) – Southampton (A)
Sunday 4th (3pm) – Birmingham City (A)
Not sure what happened with this match
Thursday 1st (3pm) – Charlton Athletic (A)
Possible
Wednesday 1st (7:45pm) – Millwall (A)
Saturday 4th (3pm) – Sheffield Wednesday (A)
Tuesday 21st (7:45pm) – Portsmouth (A)
Tuesday 25th (7:45pm) – Middlesbrough (A)
Tuesday 9th (7:45pm) – Preston North End (A)
Future game predictions
Monday 27th (3pm) – Norwich City (A) possible
Saturday 31st (3pm) – Queens Park Rangers (A) impossible
Saturday 21st (3pm) – West Bromwich Albion (A) impossible
Wednesday 25th (7:45pm) – Sheffield United (A) unlikely
Saturday 7th (3pm) – Bristol City (A) very unlikely or likely is switched to midweek
Saturday 21st (3pm) – Swansea City (A) very unlikely
Monday 6th (3pm) – Hull City (A) very unlikely
Saturday 18th (3pm) – Blackburn Rovers (A) possible
Saturday 2nd (12:30pm) – Watford (A) impossible
So on current scheduling estimate only 7 games available this season to me with 5 of them on a week day and 16 in all likelihood being impossible.
Fairest way is a ballot or at least a partial ballot when some tickets are kept to one side to allow a small portion of different people to go.
Sorry if its long but I thought I would just try and do some proper analysis.
The problem with your fairest way is that it isnt actualy fair. I am fortunate and qualify for the majority of games however i object to potentially missing out on a low allocation game to somebody who has minimum points but wins a ballot. Already we have supporters clubs guaranteed tickets at lower brackets and im sure the club also take an amount for players to distribute too. Imagine Bournemouth away in the premier under your proposal... people in the highest bracket probably miss out.
King's Head just over the Bridge from the Ribs is a decent traditional ale pub too, if that's your thing.Nice one! Give Tombland a visit. Cathedral worth a look at and the Ribs of Beef pub and eateries are very nice.
However much analysis, there has still not been anything put forward that's fairer than the current points system
People have it in their heads that fans are buying tickets and not going. Bar Bristol City in the cup last season, I've not seen it tbhBrighton have a system where points are tiered for Away games, so a London game on a Saturday is 5 points, and say Sunderland Away on a Tuesday night would be 15. They also only get points if the tickets are actually scanned and they are non transferable. That's what's coming next year for us if we get promoted I'm sure.
And I will be. Just for clarity we have enough points to probably make 1/2 or maybe 2/3rds of the away games. I would not buy a ticket just for the points and not go to the game as many others do-that is just being a shit house and taking the opportunity away from another person who may want to go. I have though purchased away tickets numerous times from point collectors which I have said previously is a shitty thing to do and this being the basis for many regarding the “closed shop” which I would agree with.The irony, why should a non priority points holder have choice at QPR away for example? Because it’s a nice 3pm Saturday kick off?
you answered the question, yes you have to go to Norwich to make sacrifice. Did I want to go to Burnley away last year on a Tuesday with no manager, no, was it a logistical nightmare, yes. However did it to
Move up ladder and enable the lower allocation/big games.
the points system is pretty fair on whole. Loyalty is rewarded.
Not been there. I like visiting Norwich, it’s a great pub crawl pre match. The Murderer’s in the City centre is a fantastic pub too. Don’t do the ones by the river though, you won’t get in.King's Head just over the Bridge from the Ribs is a decent traditional ale pub too, if that's your thing.
Ipswich - I bought the tickets off a points collector. First time, but I wanted to go to Portman Rd.And I will be. Just for clarity we have enough points to probably make 1/2 or maybe 2/3rds of the away games. I would not buy a ticket just for the points and not go to the game as many others do-that is just being a shit house and taking the opportunity away from another person who may want to go. I have though purchased away tickets numerous times from point collectors which I have said previously is a shitty thing to do and this being the basis for many regarding the “closed shop” which I would agree with.
Somebody previously also mentioned how much of a problem is people selling tickets on-put it this way if you want one you will most likely be able to get one.
Worst case scenario-if an away game sells out there are ways and means of getting in. If that means the home end then so be it as was the case at Oxford/Sheff Wed/Stoke and Southampton and you obviously have to sit on your hands. By hook or by crook I’ll be there points or no points.
They were being given away.And milwall this season..
30 pointer and sold out the entire stand.
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A large chunk of these were bought from the resell too.
People have it in their heads that fans are buying tickets and not going. Bar Bristol City in the cup last season, I've not seen it tbh
The Belgian Monk in Pottersgate is a brilliant place, loads of great beer and food, a lot of which is coeliac friendly (if that's something you need like me)Not been there. I like visiting Norwich, it’s a great pub crawl pre match. The Murderer’s in the City centre is a fantastic pub too. Don’t do the ones by the river though, you won’t get in.
Not sending tickets out. Digital like Stoke tickets supposedlyAny idea anyone when QPR going on sale? Getting quite late to send tickets out etc
Every match will be like this eventually. It's the future!Not sending tickets out. Digital like Stoke tickets supposedly
Seconded. Bier Draak is also good for continental beers, and not too far from the ground. Doesn't normally open on Mondays, but may open up as there's a game on.The Belgian Monk in Pottersgate is a brilliant place, loads of great beer and food, a lot of which is coeliac friendly (if that's something you need like me)
All Premier grounds are digitalEvery match will be like this eventually. It's the future!
Previously unaware of the existence of Bier Draak so one to check out when I'm in the city sometime soon.Seconded. Bier Draak is also good for continental beers, and not too far from the ground. Doesn't normally open on Mondays, but may open up as there's a game on.
Coach and Horse near the train station is another good one. Away fans welcome and a great choice of beers.The Belgian Monk in Pottersgate is a brilliant place, loads of great beer and food, a lot of which is coeliac friendly (if that's something you need like me)
It should be less of an issue next season. Most away allocations (bar Bournemouth - maybe Brentford?) will be larger than the current Championship teams. Yes, matches will be more popular (although Sky ko dates/times may dampen demand) but more people will get chance to attend.Brighton have a system where points are tiered for Away games, so a London game on a Saturday is 5 points, and say Sunderland Away on a Tuesday night would be 15. They also only get points if the tickets are actually scanned and they are non transferable. That's what's coming next year for us if we get promoted I'm sure.
Good beer, bit small, got a St Pauli/Dulwich Hamlets vibe.Previously unaware of the existence of Bier Draak so one to check out when I'm in the city sometime soon.
Frustratingly, I cant make the Norwich game as I regularly quiz on monday nights. Bolleaux....
Oh, digital? Non transferable? The nemesis of the points farmer, surely?All Premier grounds are digital
Oh, digital? Non transferable? The nemesis of the points farmer, surely?
AKA 'The fairest way'
I've had digital gig tickets that have a moving bar preventing screen shots , not sure about being able to transfer them thoughIn reality it's only a QR code, which can be copied and shared to anyone.
Unless they add a finger print or eye scan............
I've had digital gig tickets that have a moving bar preventing screen shots , not sure about being able to transfer them though
You're all seduced by the scourge of technology, I'll say no more!Oh, digital? Non transferable? The nemesis of the points farmer, surely?
AKA 'The fairest way'
I've had digital gig tickets that have a moving bar preventing screen shots , not sure about being able to transfer them though
My brother has been to the last 2 Newcastle games, having had to borrow his mates phone (a ST holder abroad on holiday). He couldn't transfer the ticket, he literally had yo hand over his phone (not many would/can do that!)I've had digital gig tickets that have a moving bar preventing screen shots , not sure about being able to transfer them though
Yeah i wouldn't, they can fuck off !!!My brother has been to the last 2 Newcastle games, having had to borrow his mates phone (a ST holder abroad on holiday). He couldn't transfer the ticket, he literally had yo hand over his phone (not many would/can do that!)
Thanks mate, just thought I'd ask !Yeah i wouldn't, they can fuck off !!!
Yeah I'll be thereThanks mate, just thought I'd ask !
Edit: You going to Norwich? If so, see you there.
So the other bloke has left his phone behind and gone on holiday? Really?My brother has been to the last 2 Newcastle games, having had to borrow his mates phone (a ST holder abroad on holiday). He couldn't transfer the ticket, he literally had yo hand over his phone (not many would/can do that!)
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