Huge thanks to the Ipswich boys for coming on here and having an honest discussion about our two clubs. Can I suggest they put up a thread on the Sunderland board and see how long it takes before they get told to f*** off or get jibes about Magpie supporter, Bobby Robson being in his box.
I make you right actually. A host of below average players being brought in for no apparent reason.
Another thing, money aside is the off the field maintaining of the club. It is filthy, and a bit worn down. Especially the north stand roof and the turnstiles and the window covers. He just let it get to a bad state. I know it sounds petty when there are clubs like yourself who don't have a ground right now. It is just a pride and care thing. When Lambert came in he called it a "disgrace".
For all of Lamberts failings, he gets it. He genuinely looks like he actually cares and this is clearly hurting. I feel bad for him, it is just a shame he isn't a great manager.
Not many do mate, based on their supporters attitudes, they're not even big fans of themselves!It is interesting you say that. When I was at Sunderland away I was queuing by the turnstiles when a few Sunderland yoof came past and started shouting angry northern things at us. When they got a bit back, that is the exact line they came out with. Ran off as soon as they said it mind, I don't really like that club.
I make you right actually. A host of below average players being brought in for no apparent reason.
Another thing, money aside is the off the field maintaining of the club. It is filthy, and a bit worn down. Especially the north stand roof and the turnstiles and the window covers. He just let it get to a bad state. I know it sounds petty when there are clubs like yourself who don't have a ground right now. It is just a pride and care thing. When Lambert came in he called it a "disgrace".
For all of Lamberts failings, he gets it. He genuinely looks like he actually cares and this is clearly hurting. I feel bad for him, it is just a shame he isn't a great manager.
All the shit we’ve been through makes me think small things like upkeep are actually important. Now we’re seemingly on the way back up the club is thriving on identity even without a home. If your ground is getting shabby then you can bet your training ground is too and that lack of a shit filters down to the players.
I have always had a high regard for Ipswich Town and the fans. League Chamions under Alf Ramsey, FA cup and Uefa cup winners under Bobby Robson and a major force for many years; certainly punching above their weight.
I was working as a hotel porter back in the mid to late seventies and the nicest manager and team was Ipswich. There were some nasty players and managers believe me!
Anyway things move on and the provincial clubs lost out to the big money and here we are.
What does strike me is Ipswich play at their "Highfield Road" in the town center and with solid support and a sense of history that far surpasses most, yet still have sunk to this level when you would have thought they had all the advantages that we threw away.
I do hope they will find a route back and wish them well after Saturday.
Yeah, I always thought as Ipswich as a bit like us. Along with teams like Southampton.
I have always had a high regard for Ipswich Town and the fans. League Chamions under Alf Ramsey, FA cup and Uefa cup winners under Bobby Robson and a major force for many years; certainly punching above their weight.
I was working as a hotel porter back in the mid to late seventies and the nicest manager and team was Ipswich. There were some nasty players and managers believe me!
Anyway things move on and the provincial clubs lost out to the big money and here we are.
What does strike me is Ipswich play at their "Highfield Road" in the town center and with solid support and a sense of history that far surpasses most, yet still have sunk to this level when you would have thought they had all the advantages that we threw away.
I do hope they will find a route back and wish them well after Saturday.
Great post. I am incredibly proud of our history, even if Norwich mock us for it, I will always be proud of the way we punched up and having Sir Bobby, a true gentleman in charge as well Sir Alf. We have two fine statues outside the ground of both of them and Kevin Beattie to join them soon. John Wark will be there as always, Mick Mills and Terry Butcher. True Gentleman and fantastic footballers.
Coventry I am happy to see up there, I don't like P'Boro or Wycombe or Sunderland. But I like Coventry, a proper football club, with History and substance. I 100% hope you win the league.
And, of course, we have the added link of Mick Mills and Terry Butcher, who were bloody hopeless when they were here!
Ipswich were my second team when l was at uni down there in the early 70s. Some fantastic games with the likes of Mills, Beattie, Hunter(?) and Woods playing. But it was also a period when Cov were thumped 4-0 (Mick Coop missed an early penalty IIRC) and Larry Lloyd got into trouble for dropping his shorts and baring his bottom at the crowd!I'm looking forward to tomorrow. I have a couple of memories of Ipswich. I remember us being there on a Bank Holiday in the 80s. We stopped at a Little Chef on the way and we got our meal paid for by a couple of City directors who happened to be in there. They said something like "if someone is prepared to come all this way on a Bank Holiday then the least we can do is pay". Have no idea who they were.
Another time in the early 90s we played there, again a bank holiday. Must have been Easter. It was freezing and at one point we had to stop because it was snowing so much. My Mom came with us to "look around Ipswich", she dropped us off, but moaned like hell as she basically had to stay in the car in the cold and wait as nothing was open on a Bank Holiday in those days! I think we won 1-0.
Nice place, nice ground.
Ipswich were my second team when l was at uni down there in the early 70s. Some fantastic games with the likes of Mills, Beattie, Hunter(?) and Woods playing. But it was also a period when Cov were thumped 4-0 (Mick Coop missed an early penalty IIRC) and Larry Lloyd got into trouble for dropping his shorts and baring his bottom at the crowd!
Yep Alan Hunter. Absolute monster. Him and Beattie formidable.
If you go up to the video link I posted, Mariner tells a good story about big Al
Late 70s I, like most kids, collected the Topps football cards, the ones that had a thin bit of pink bubbly in. For some reason, even 40 years later, I can still remember that every packet I got seemed to have MIckey Droy and Laurie Sivell in! He was a goalie, wasn't he?
He was too small but very agile, actually so was Paul Cooper, the penalty saving expert.He was indeed. Great Servant
He was too small but very agile, actually so was Paul Cooper, the penalty saving expert.
We are fucked, dry.May as well ask this question why you are here.
What is the latest with the stadium business??
Oh shit, now you’ve done it!May as well ask this question why you are here.
What is the latest with the stadium business??
We are fucked, dry.
Our council are balls deep in the London rugby team they drafted in and want to protect them at all costs. Said rugby club were involved in a takeover attempt after they kicked us out.
A new stadium is never going to happen unless we get a Saudi Prince.
Wow, you can swear on here.
I imagine it is a huge ball ache as fans, I sympathise with you guys. What's the deal regarding St Andrews, are they happy to let you continue on there? I assume it gets to a point where they say that they don't want extra feet on it?
I think we have the option of two more years, but it isn't really sustainable. As much as I hate the Ricoh, we need to go back there next season.
Yea one of the best things about this site is when you are in a mood you can come on here and have a good fucking swear, fucking rely on it I doWow, you can swear on here.
I imagine it is a huge ball ache as fans, I sympathise with you guys. What's the deal regarding St Andrews, are they happy to let you continue on there? I assume it gets to a point where they say that they don't want extra feet on it?
What are the chances of that happening?
Answer that mate and the world is yours.
Depending on which side you listen to the problem is:
(Our owners POV): Wasps have asked us to indemnify them against losses from the state aid investigation which if agreed to would potentially bankrupt the club. Until they drop that nothing doing.
(Our landlords POV): Fuck knows. They’re hardly talking. Keep talking about dropping legal action but several sources say you can’t drop a state aid complaint. Whispers that they think you can try, our owners say no point trying cos you definitely can’t.
We’re hoping promotion focuses a few minds or there’s some kind of breakthrough. Us being away is definitely costing both sides though some argument as to how much and whether the potential losses/gains from the state aid case make it worthwhile.
Must be surreal experience. I remember going to the away game, and saying to my mate, i wouldnt come, if we played our home games at lets say Colchester (although that ground would be too small). I dont think I would go and I barely miss a game home or away supporting Town . So fair play to every fan who still travels to home games.
Must just be a Norwich thing wanting to fucking swear when required ! I know the feeling well...Yea one of the best things about this site is when you are in a mood you can come on here and have a good fucking swear, fucking rely on it I do
Don’t forget John O’Rourke who scored a hattie in our first european gameAnd, of course, we have the added link of Mick Mills and Terry Butcher, who were bloody hopeless when they were here!
Try Brian Joicey for that hat trick v Trakia Plovdiv.Don’t forget John O’Rourke who scored a hattie in our first european game
Try Brian Joicey for that hat trick v Trakia Plovdiv.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow. I have a couple of memories of Ipswich. I remember us being there on a Bank Holiday in the 80s. We stopped at a Little Chef on the way and we got our meal paid for by a couple of City directors who happened to be in there. They said something like "if someone is prepared to come all this way on a Bank Holiday then the least we can do is pay". Have no idea who they were.
Another time in the early 90s we played there, again a bank holiday. Must have been Easter. It was freezing and at one point we had to stop because it was snowing so much. My Mom came with us to "look around Ipswich", she dropped us off, but moaned like hell as she basically had to stay in the car in the cold and wait as nothing was open on a Bank Holiday in those days! I think we won 1-0.
Nice place, nice ground.
I'll bet my mortgage it was Joicey. As I havent got a mortgage, I'll wager a packet of jelly babies that I'm right. He also scored at HR in the 2nd leg.It was O'Rourke, wasn't it?
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