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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #386
I tell you what, they don’t half know how to make £5 a day stretch. I have it on good authority that they all have the latest technology big screen TV and are all driving around in 18 plate cars. Someone should make one them chancellor with that track record.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #387
Nick said:
Didn't somebody say most of the people coming over on dinghies weren't from Syria?
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They probably aren't. Which is why the rhetoric that they always are is frustrating.

If it was just Syrians escaping ISIS then I think people would be more forward about offering their support. Problem is, when Merkel says 'everyone's welcome', any chancer is going to go for it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #388
skybluetony176 said:
I tell you what, they don’t half know how to make £5 a day stretch. I have it on good authority that they all have the latest technology big screen TV and are all driving around in 18 plate cars. Someone should make one them chancellor with that track record.
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Go to any car wash and most of them will have better clobber than me. They do tend to wear it in the wrong order like slip on shoes with white socks and tracksuit bottoms but they aren't messing about when it comes to fashion
 

Marty

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #389
Just wanted to show how easy it is to live on £5 a day.

Using Sainsburys pricing too, so could be got cheaper elsewhere.

Breakfast = 38p
Porridge - 1kg - £1.20 - 1 months for 1 person. = 4p a day.
Frozen fruit - £2 - 6 servings = 34p

Lunch: = 94p
Granny Smith apples - 6 for £1.50 = 25p
Bananas - 5 for 95p = 19p
Pre bagged salad - 170g for £1 (2days) = 50p

Tea: = £1.22
Chicken Breast - £1
Frozen Veg - 1kg - £1 / 14 days = 8p
Rice - £1.70 / 13 days = 14p

£2.54 for a full days healthy eating, where you will be full all day. Plenty of money for things like eggs, milk, flour, chocolate, etc. Not bad considering you now have a roof over your head, no bills and you've never paid into the system.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #390
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I think that's part of the issue though. How many are actually from Syria getting away from ISIS?

For the record I would also probably rather be there than have to watch city play anyway.
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Of those that fled Syria, Not specifically to the UK but just fled in general, a lot.
Would you prefer it if they'd joined them because that's the choice a lot of people were faced with
 

Westendlad

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #391
clint van damme said:
Of those that fled Syria, Not specifically to the UK but just fled in general, a lot.
Would you prefer it if they'd joined them because that's the choice a lot of people were faced with
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Personally i wish they put more of a fight when it was obviously Syria was in their plans. Read yesterday that isis now only control only one tiny area now so they can go home now.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #392
skybluetony176 said:
I tell you what, they don’t half know how to make £5 a day stretch. I have it on good authority that they all have the latest technology big screen TV and are all driving around in 18 plate cars. Someone should make one them chancellor with that track record.
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I’d love to see an MP survive on £5 a day expenses.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #393
Ian1779 said:
I’d love to see an MP survive on £5 a day expenses.
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Wouldn't even get them a line of coke would it?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #394
Westendlad said:
Personally i wish they put more of a fight when it was obviously Syria was in their plans. Read yesterday that isis now only control only one tiny area now so they can go home now.
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I think a lot of them will when they start rebuilding the country which will take a while because it's rubble

After what a fuck up this has been, same with Libya, I hope we've got the sense to stay out of the next one wherever it may be.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #395
Might be here Clint.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #396
For every illegal migrant there will probably be a refugee or asylum seeker. In fact if we put together the money given to both of them for 5 years it will still be less than a clever accountant can write off in an afternoon for a tax evading millionaire or corporation.

The fact that there were what 50 or so migrants crossing the channel over the Xmas break and it’s declared a ‘crisis’ - where’s the crisis in Amazon only paying 4.5m corporation tax last year?

Still we’re more interested in the boat people.
 
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Westendlad

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #397
Ian1779 said:
I’d love to see an MP survive on £5 a day expenses.
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95k + expenses them horrible cretins get.....Unbelievable
 

Westendlad

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #398
clint van damme said:
I think a lot of them will when they start rebuilding the country which will take a while because it's rubble

After what a fuck up this has been, same with Libya, I hope we've got the sense to stay out of the next one wherever it may be.
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More chance of a threesome with Kylie & Shakira than more 5% wanting to return home.....
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #399
Ian1779 said:
Amazon only paying 4.5m corporation tax last year
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That’s not fair. The owner of Amazon has a divorce bill to pay and it’s not like he’s the richest man in the world.

Oh wait...
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #400
skybluetony176 said:
That’s not fair. The owner of Amazon has a divorce bill to pay and it’s not like he’s the richest man in the world.

Oh wait...
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His wife's left him - with a neighbour!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #401
Westendlad said:
More chance of a threesome with Kylie & Shakira than more 5% wanting to return home.....
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Syria a really interesting case in that it was the jewel and many travelling were just like you and I 10-15 years ago. It can turn quickly and we are not better than them just cause we were born in this country
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #402
26 Before-and-After Pics Reveal What War Has Done to Syria

Wonder how we’d cope
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #403
I'd happily swap dodgy MPs and benefit scroungers to go abroad to bring hard working, honest people in. Imagine the country then!
 

Marty

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  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #404
Sky Blue Pete said:
26 Before-and-After Pics Reveal What War Has Done to Syria

Wonder how we’d cope
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This continent has all ready gone through that level of destruction. Cities were wiped from the map during WW2.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #405
Marty said:
This continent has all ready gone through that level of destruction. Cities were wiped from the map during WW2.
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Syria wasn’t, a huge middle class with an educated population
 
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LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #406
One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2019
  • #407
LastGarrison said:
One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.
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Yep that’s right - the human spirit. No surprise to me knowing the Syrians I’ve cone across in Coventry
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #408
LastGarrison said:
One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.
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It does. I used to know someone from Lebanon, was of the middle class... more educated than most. Came here to work and paid more taxes than most of this board I reckon.

She said the nicest thing about thus country was being able to go to sleep without the background sound of gunfire.

And that was somebody not really affected - was just their everyday. Wasn't even somebody in the war zone as was, they had it easy.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #409
LastGarrison said:
One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.
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You've had a damascene conversion!
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #410
clint van damme said:
Of those that fled Syria, Not specifically to the UK but just fled in general, a lot.
Would you prefer it if they'd joined them because that's the choice a lot of people were faced with
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Of course, you're right.

Let's just open the borders.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #411
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Of course, you're right.

Let's just open the borders.
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no, let's stop getting involved in wars in sovereign states.
And it's not about opening borders, but look at the before and after pictures Pete posted, when you're faced with a choice of staying in that situation, fleeing to another country or fleeing towards the Islamists what would you do?
Remember, despite what people on here say, the majority of Syrians have fled over the border to Turkey and no further.
You did call refer to Syria as a third world country before so I'm not sure you have a rudimentary grasp of the situation to be honest.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #412
clint van damme said:
no, let's stop getting involved in wars in sovereign states.
And it's not about opening borders, but look at the before and after pictures Pete posted, when you're faced with a choice of staying in that situation, fleeing to another country or fleeing towards the Islamists what would you do?
Remember, despite what people on here say, the majority of Syrians have fled over the border to Turkey and no further.
You did call refer to Syria as a third world country before so I'm not sure you have a rudimentary grasp of the situation to be honest.
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I fully agree with us not getting involved where we are not welcome.

But this thread was about those who are leaving a safe country to cross the channel. Why don't they want to stay in the rest of the EU and not risk their lives getting to the UK?
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #413
Astute said:
I fully agree with us not getting involved where we are not welcome.

But this thread was about those who are leaving a safe country to cross the channel. Why don't they want to stay in the rest of the EU and not risk their lives getting to the UK?
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I can't answer that but it is a relatively small amount not the human tide some here make out, (referring purely to Syria here).
And as we've contributed to the problem I personally think we shouldn't moan about taking in those fleeing the mess.

If the Syrians had contributed to the flattening of Coventry I'd be making a run for it with my family and I'd expect those fuckers and their allies to look after us.
 
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Astute

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #414
clint van damme said:
I can't answer that but it is a relatively small amount not the human tide some here make out, (referring purely to Syria here).
And as we've contributed to the problem I personally think we shouldn't moan about taking in those fleeing the mess.

If the Syrians had contributed to the flattening of Coventry I'd be making a run for it with my family and I'd expect those fuckers and their allies to look after us.
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Our allies are those in the EU. They seem to be running away from them to get here. I would love to know what is so bad about the EU countries they are risking their lives to get away from. Because they are supposed to have the same human rights charter as us.
 

IrishSkyBlue

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #415
Westendlad said:
Divert them to Ireland......Lovely Irish folk would welcome them with open arms.
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eh no we dont we have a homeless crisis and health crisis last thing we need more migrants, our useless government cant even supply affordable homes but tax irish through the roof, wish we closed our borders and sorted our mess out at home first.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #416
Astute said:
Our allies are those in the EU. They seem to be running away from them to get here. I would love to know what is so bad about the EU countries they are risking their lives to get away from. Because they are supposed to have the same human rights charter as us.
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The vast majority are in Turkey and Lebanon.
Only a relatively small amount come to Europe.
I'm glad you can look at those pictures and be so facetious about it.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #417
Astute said:
Our allies are those in the EU. They seem to be running away from them to get here. I would love to know what is so bad about the EU countries they are risking their lives to get away from. Because they are supposed to have the same human rights charter as us.
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How many exactly do you think are leaving the EU to get to us? How do you think that number compares to the numbers settling in the EU? Or even Germany or Sweden for that matter?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #418
LastGarrison said:
One of our partners at work is based in Beirut and on his Social Media the other day he announced that they were opening a new office in Damascus.

I have to say that this surprised me as I was, naively, under the impression that it was a war zone. He then put up pictures and videos and it literally could have been any thriving big city in the world.

I am in no way playing down what has, and is still happening, in Syria but more of my genuine surprise at how resilient the people are and how life really does ‘just go on’.
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what line of work you in? I think the rebuild is tentatively starting and will get in to full swing in the next few years once they've decided who will pay for it, will be some big bucks to be made.
 

Astute

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #419
clint van damme said:
The vast majority are in Turkey and Lebanon.
Only a relatively small amount come to Europe.
I'm glad you can look at those pictures and be so facetious about it.
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It isn't about looking at pictures. It is trying to get my head around risking their lives to leave what is a safe country.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jan 10, 2019
  • #420
Astute said:
It isn't about looking at pictures. It is trying to get my head around risking their lives to leave what is a safe country.
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I'm more concerned with why we keep getting involved in disastrous wars in the middle East.
Stop that and a large part of the immigration issue would be solved.
 
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