Immigration and Asylum (2 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

Have you read it?

Read it. Some of it is insane.

It's there plain as day. Read it.

Like which bits?

 

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[Sick Boy]

Like which bits?

Presumably a lot of people were high as fook when Revelations was written.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Presumably a lot of people were high as fook when Revelations was written.

probably. it is meant to be metaphorical I believe though and not literal

 

[Sick Boy]

probably. it is meant to be metaphorical I believe though and not literal

Sounds like a pretty bad trip...

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

probably. it is meant to be metaphorical I believe though and not literal

In which case why follow it?

It's either the word of God and therefore literal, or it isn't.

If it's just a bunch of morality tales how is it any different to the Arabian Nights or the Canterbury Tales? Or even just fairy tales?

 

[Otis]

She seems a nice person. Did well to survive childhood fame.

 

[Otis]

Like which bits?

Like the bits I posted.

 

[Grendel]

In which case why follow it?

It's either the word of God and therefore literal, or it isn't.

If it's just a bunch of morality tales how is it any different to the Arabian Nights or the Canterbury Tales? Or even just fairy tales?

It is nothing to do with the word of God?

 

[Ccfcisparks]

In which case why follow it?

It's either the word of God and therefore literal, or it isn't.

If it's just a bunch of morality tales how is it any different to the Arabian Nights or the Canterbury Tales? Or even just fairy tales?

well that one book perhaps. i am not a theologist so i have nothing to say on the discussion

 

[rob9872]

She seems a nice person. Did well to survive childhood fame.

Tbf over the years she's had her knockers

 

[Otis]

Sounds like a pretty bad trip...

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Definitely sounds like he was chasing the dragon there.

 

[Grendel]

Definitely sounds like he was chasing the dragon there.

I am not an expert at all in theology by any standards but I did some research on it The Bible is not a series of instructions by God? Its an amalgamation of several different scriptures. Revelations is viewed by some as the writings of an outcasted Christian by the Roman Empire and the mythology is actually a symbolism of the evil of the Empire.

 

[Otis]

I am not an expert at all in theology by any standards but I did some research on it The Bible is not a series of instructions by God? Its an amalgamation of several different scriptures. Revelations is viewed by some as the writings of an outcasted Christian by the Roman Empire and the mythology is actually a symbolism of the evil of the Empire.

Yeah, I would agree.

Have met many Christians though over the years, who do believe the Bible is the word of God.

 

[rob9872]

Yeah, I would agree.

Have met many Christians though over the years, who do believe the Bible is the word of God.

How can it be if he doesnt exist?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I am not an expert at all in theology by any standards but I did some research on it The Bible is not a series of instructions by God? Its an amalgamation of several different scriptures. Revelations is viewed by some as the writings of an outcasted Christian by the Roman Empire and the mythology is actually a symbolism of the evil of the Empire.

Very good grendel
One of the biggest mistakes made for me was a sentence at the end saying anyone who adds or removes anything from this book is eternally damned

Also people say to me that the answer to all of life is in the bible and I’m like not really there’s nothing about lots of technological advances or climate change or ai etc etc

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yeah, I would agree.

Have met many Christians though over the years, who do believe the Bible is the word of God.

It’s only ever god inspired not god written
It’s daft to think it’s the inerrant word of a supreme creator

 

[rob9872]

It’s only ever god inspired not god written
It’s daft to think it’s the inerrant word of a supreme creator

Especially in English, id have expected Hebrew or at the very least on timescale in Latin

 

[rob9872]

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being low, how disrespectful would you say it was to use a page from a Gideon's Bible to roll a spliff
*if the shops were shut and you have no Rizlas does it knock a point or two off?

(asking for a friend)

 

[Grendel]

It’s only ever god inspired not god written
It’s daft to think it’s the inerrant word of a supreme creator

The problem is of course most people scoff at the existence of God but as the concept of infinity is also a difficult thing to believe how was the universe formed at all.

 

[Otis]

The problem is of course most people scoff at the existence of God but as the concept of infinity is also a difficult thing to believe how was the universe formed at all.

Yeah, agree. But what came before God and who created him?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The problem is of course most people scoff at the existence of God but as the concept of infinity is also a difficult thing to believe how was the universe formed at all.

Quite and maybe not most

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yeah, agree. But what came before God and who created him?

Our vicar said the other day that the bible doesn’t start at the beginning of time which was interesting as if the world and universe was already there

 

[Otis]

Our vicar said the other day that the bible doesn’t start at the beginning of time which was interesting as if the world and universe was already there

Time waits for no man.

Wonder if it does for God though.

 

[Sick Boy]

The problem is of course most people scoff at the existence of God but as the concept of infinity is also a difficult thing to believe how was the universe formed at all.

Infinity isn't hard to believe but it's hard for the human mind to comprehend it, hence God (a man-made concept) was created to explain it.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Infinity isn't hard to believe but it's hard for the human mind to comprehend it, hence God (a man-made concept) was created to explain it.

You an atheist or agnostic sb?

 

[Sick Boy]

You an atheist or agnostic sb?

I always considered myself agnostic but leaning more towards atheist these days.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I always considered myself agnostic but leaning more towards atheist these days.

That’s interesting
Is Italy very religious or similar to the uk?

 

[duffer]

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being low, how disrespectful would you say it was to use a page from a Gideon's Bible to roll a spliff
*if the shops were shut and you have no Rizlas does it knock a point or two off?

(asking for a friend)

Not me you've got to ask mate, but combine that with voting Conservative and all I'd say is I wouldn't bother packing a thick coat when you're heading off to the afterlife.

(It's never too late to repent though, Comrade!)

 

[Sick Boy]

That’s interesting
Is Italy very religious or similar to the uk?

I'd say it's a fair bit more religious than the UK and the Church still has a lot of power...even though officially it's supposed to be a secular country, which is laughable.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I'd say it's a fair bit more religious than the UK and the Church still has a lot of power...even though officially it's supposed to be a secular country, which is laughable.

I thought that
How does it affect your average Italian

 

[DT-R]

The problem is of course most people scoff at the existence of God but as the concept of infinity is also a difficult thing to believe how was the universe formed at all.

But which of the approximate 3000 gods created the world? Surely it was only 1? Or all? Or none? How are there so many all-knowing creators? Did they all create the world for their own followers? They all just happened to create the same world and put all their different followers in different locations? What if a King (Henry 8th) created a religion and not a God? Does that religion still have a god? Or did god condemn any followers of the king to hell? Where is hell? Because if that's to be believed, heaven is an outer space, other worldly place. Whereas hell is the fires within the earth's crust. If that's true, then we're all much closer to hell than we are heaven?

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[Gynnsthetonic]

Yeah, agree. But what came before God and who created him?

Oh no, this needs a whole new thread on its own. Fascinating stuff that nobody,scientists, religion cannot fathom out

 

[mmttww]

which of the approximate 3000 gods...

Too many Gods. Needs Elon and DOGE, I reckon.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Yeah, agree. But what came before God and who created him?

God's dad?

 

[rob9872]

As Neil said "If you think about it, it's just 'dog' backwards"